I also used True Image to make it, and I did not need to do back-up and restore.
when boot True Image rescue media, choose safe version. and then you can clone directly from SSD to SD.
Safe version recognizes SD as a fixed drive. (my True Image 9 did)

DonkeyBeliever wrote:

I had seen your post in the other thread for method one, However I can't seem to find where v11's safe mode is

Sorry, I did not know that.......but I found solution for you. (maybe)
I read through version 11's document and foud this at page 75.

You may also wish to add Acronis True Image Home safe version when creating your
bootable rescue media. This version does not include USB, PC Card, or SCSI drivers.
Recommended for use on rare occasions where problems running the full version occur. To
add this version, you should download the appropriate installation file from Acronis web-site
and then perform installation. After installation the Acronis True Image Home safe
version will appear as one of the components to be offered by Acronis Media Builder for
placing on the bootable media.
After installation the Acronis True Image Home safe version will also appear in the
Default backup options (Media components) allowing you to place it on a removable media
along with the data being backed up if you backup to the removable media.

Probably you can download safe version bootable rescue media builder from Acronis's web site.
I hope it works for you!

Obiwan wrote:

Probably you can download safe version bootable rescue media builder from Acronis's web site.
I hope it works for you!

Hey thanks after reading your post I saw that I just needed to register my version of Acronis and get the download pack , I actually ran into a slight problem with my method when I reimaged back the original ASUS setup (the version with 4 partitions) windows kept trying to boot from one of the smaller paritions, however a quick registry edit with BartPE solved my problem, if anyone runs into the same Issue I've got a guide to fix the problem, just drop me a line.

Thanks!

DonkeyBeliever,
I found another link that may help some of our eee users trying to use your wiki method 2, to make an XP/sdhc install. Yesterday I told you about the free version of Acronis True Image for Segate/Maxtor drive users, today I found one that will work for everyone.
Acronis has a "Try before you Buy link".   http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/do … trueimage/   This is to download a full version of TrueImage 11 Home, 15 day free trial. That should be plenty of time to do the XP install. If you like the program you can buy it from Acronis ($50) or Newegg.com ($36), but you don't have to.
JDtucson

Great post. I have two questions:

1. I already have Windows XP Pro installed on the SSD using a different method. Can I use your guide from step 30 onwards to transfer the OS to a spare SDHC I have?

2. Will you guide transfer the OS to a USB flash stick?

karibe wrote:

Not so easy..........
I've done everything until point 32:

" Now on your main PC where you have True Image Home installed, insert the Flash Storage Device you want to have windows on and then open up Acronis True Image Home v11. Select Restore, then select the .TIB image that you had made in step 31 and have it restore to the Flash Storage Device, and follow the on screen insturctions. After the recovery is done insert the Flash Storage Device into your EeePC"

I have .tib image but i can't restore on flash storage device because Acronis true image don't let me choose any device different of primary HD, impossible restore on any mobile device (usb or sd are not selectable!)

can anyone help me??

If you still have windows in SSD, please get True Image Safe version and try cloning directly from SSD to SD.
in Safe Version, it was easy. I did it in True Image v9 but I guess v11 safe version has same function.

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=89495#p89495

karibe wrote:

Obiwan wrote:

karibe wrote:

Not so easy..........
I've done everything until point 32:

" Now on your main PC where you have True Image Home installed, insert the Flash Storage Device you want to have windows on and then open up Acronis True Image Home v11. Select Restore, then select the .TIB image that you had made in step 31 and have it restore to the Flash Storage Device, and follow the on screen insturctions. After the recovery is done insert the Flash Storage Device into your EeePC"

I have .tib image but i can't restore on flash storage device because Acronis true image don't let me choose any device different of primary HD, impossible restore on any mobile device (usb or sd are not selectable!)

can anyone help me??

If you still have windows in SSD, please get True Image Safe version and try cloning directly from SSD to SD.
in Safe Version, it was easy. I did it in True Image v9 but I guess v11 safe version has same function.

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=89495#p89495

So many attempts......but no results!
I tried to do as you suggest me: I used a version 9 of acronis workstation true image, i created a booting cd in a safe mode, but the problem is always the same , i can't se my SD or any USB pen ( If I use a usb hd it works..) as a valid HD to restore or clone the SSD. Even if i try clone HD, it says i have only one hd so i can't continue.
I don't succed even to load a preconfigured .tif image as explained in this topic http://www.purviancecs.com/acronis.htm always because don't see SD as a regular HD to restore. (same results if i try acronis image from windows xp or if i boot from a rescue media in safe or full mode......)
So many hours of work..... i feel i need just a little bit ......

Sorry to hear that. I would like to help as much as I can.
just to make it sure, please let me confirm.

when you tried to clone Windows from SSD to SD,
1 Did you use True Image 9 with all latest update from Acronis? I think it is build 3854 for Ver. 9.
2 Did you choose Safe version of True Image (not safe mode of Windows nor Standard version of True Image) when boot from Bootable Rescue Media of True Image (probably in USB thumb drive)?
3 Did you wait for a while (maybe a minute or two) when you are at drive selection page of True Image?  (my Eee needed minutes to show all selections)

If yes for all, I am afraid I have no idea. If you boot from rescue media of True Image and choose safe version, there shoud be no difference between your environment and mine.
I needed normal version of True Image to restore from USB thumb to SD or SSD, but I used Safe version of True Image to clone from SSD to SD and never failed (I did re-install several times)

Obiwan wrote:

Sorry to hear that. I would like to help as much as I can.
just to make it sure, please let me confirm.

when you tried to clone Windows from SSD to SD,
1 Did you use True Image 9 with all latest update from Acronis? I think it is build 3854 for Ver. 9.
2 Did you choose Safe version of True Image (not safe mode of Windows nor Standard version of True Image) when boot from Bootable Rescue Media of True Image (probably in USB thumb drive)?
3 Did you wait for a while (maybe a minute or two) when you are at drive selection page of True Image?  (my Eee needed minutes to show all selections)

If yes for all, I am afraid I have no idea. If you boot from rescue media of True Image and choose safe version, there shoud be no difference between your environment and mine.
I needed normal version of True Image to restore from USB thumb to SD or SSD, but I used Safe version of True Image to clone from SSD to SD and never failed (I did re-install several times)

I have to say yes to all your points ( that's just what i did)...... in any way thanks Obiwan, I'm  sure i 'll succeed, its a time matter.....

I finally got this "2nd method" to work after several attempts at slimming down the xp installation with nlite (all of which wouldn't install), I finally made an iso with nlite without changing the xp installation (other than the changes listed in the wiki), and the installation to the SSD worked (the only way I ever could get XP to install was by changing the BIOS OS Installation option to "Start", then back to "Finished" after XP installed). 

Then, I used Acronis and got the XP image onto my SDHC card (by way of another computer) and got the Eee to boot off of the SDHC it, but was unable to use my usb mouse with it - when I plugged it in, XP said it needed a USB Composite Device Driver and tried to hook up to Windows Update to find one, which would result in an error message. 

Then, I restored my original Xandos image to the SSD, and ever since I did that, when I try and boot to the XP installed on the SDHC, it freezes on the two-tone blue screen that says "Windows XP" just before the welcome screen - anybody have any thoughts on why this is happening or how I can resolve this?

Was the SDHC install actually accessing and using stuff from the SSD install?

I'm gonna try restoring the XP image to the SSD and see if the SHDC install will work again, while XP is on both the SSD and SDHC, but I still won't know how to fix it so that I can run XP off of the SDHC while the original Xandros is on the SSD...

Update: restored an image of a successful full XP install that I had done to the SSD (not the install that was altered for booting from SDHC), booted to SDHC and XP booted, but I still think that the XP on my SDHC card is somehow reliant on the XP on the SSD.  I'm going to put my Xandros image back on the SSD and see what happens...

I was hoping to try updating the XP on the SDHC, but now IE won't work - says it's missing a .dll file.  I think I'm just going to scrap the XP SDHC and just use XP as my primary OS on the SSD, and use Acronis to switch images when I want to play with Xandros...

Damn, I was really hoping to get the XP on SDHC thing right...

Help me DonkeyBeliever, you're my only hope...

Last edited by etinmot (2008-02-01 10:58:39 pm)

dseelye wrote:

DonkeyBeliever / etinmot -

I am having the same issue as etimot... once I restore the xandros image back to the SSD, the XP load on the SDHC no longer boots past the "Window XP" screen with the blue bars.  I have tried many different combinations, but if XP does not reside on the internal SSD as well, then the XP installed on the SDHC will not boot.  I am very interested in knowing how you got this to work as well.

Additionally I am having another issue that I can't seem to find an answer to.  Even though I used Acronis on another computer to restore the XP image on the SDHC (I am using a 16GB SDHC), it creates a partition that is exactly the same size as the SSD (4G in my case).  I have tried Partition Resizer to regain the unallocated space but I can only get 8GB total.  Another 8GB still remains unallocated and I can't figure out a way to regain it.  Even if I could create another partition of that amount or 12GB that would be fine but I can't find a program that will do it.  I also tried Norton's Partition Magic but it doesn't even see the SDHC card as a valid disk so won't work.  Any light you can shed on this issue would be fantastic as well.  Thank you for all the work you have done thus far.

Did you guys install Hitachi Microdrive Filter?
I am sorry if I were wrong, but I cannot see the installation about Hitachi Microdrive filter in Method 2.
I guess that is why stop at "windows XP" screen.
Did anybody install successfully without Microdrive filter??

here is the process. just ignore about Winhex. you need only HitachiMicrodrive Filter. (http://www.xpefiles.com//files/xpfildrvr1224_320.zip)

wiki SDHC Method 1 wrote:

33. Then stick your USB thumb drive into the EEE with the following programs on it: Winhex installer, Hitachi Microdrive Filter.

34. Next copy the files from your thumb drive to the desktop and then properly remove the thumb drive.

35. Unzip the microdrive files to a folder on the desktop. And Insert your SDHC Card into the EEE.

36. You need to then Hit Start go to run, and type regedit. Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\USBSTOR\
Inside that you should find a directory called something like Disk&Ven_USB2.0&Prod_CardReader_SD0&Rev_0100. Open it. Inside that you should find another directory wich is just a bunch of numbers. Open it. In the right pane you should see a key called “Hardware ID” Right click on it, and select modify. It should list about 7 lines of text. Copy ONLY the first line to the clipboard. Hit cancel, close regedit.

37. Open cfadisk.inf in the directory you unzipped the microdrive filter to

38. Edit the section called [cfadisk_device] so that rather than containing 11 lines, just have one line. The line begins with: %MicroDrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,
After the comma, hit ctrl V to paste what you coppied from the registry into the file.

39.Save the file.

40. Go to Device manager. Under disk drives, you should see SiliconMotion and USB2.0 Card Reader. Right click on the card reader and click update driver. Direct the driver updater window to the Hitachi driver you just edited. It won’t detect the driver automatically, you have to specifty that your supplying the disk for the hardware and force it to use the driver. After the driver is updated, you need to reboot.

please try these 33 - 40 before copying disk image from SSD.





I installed several times with some modification to the method 1, I used nLite and True Image and my method is easier than Method 2.
Here is my change to Method 1  (not to method 2)
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=89495#p89495

Last edited by Obiwan (2008-02-03 11:29:56 am)

I made the mistake of trying to format my SDHC card after the failed Windows install, and now it's all screwed up.  Waiting for a new one to arrive from NewEgg. 

Anyone know how to repair or restore the mbr on an sdhc card or on a usb flash drive?

I've tried fdisk, cfdisk, but can't do it.  Both sdhc and usb will show up in file manager (one with 0 free bytes and one with 24 free bytes - both should be empty).

I hope I'm not to late to join this party!

I'm having trouble understanding the following:

quote
38. Edit the section called [cfadisk_device] so that rather than containing 11 lines, just have one line. The line begins with: %MicroDrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,
After the comma, hit ctrl V to paste what you coppied from the registry into the file.
unquote

Can someone please modify the cfadisk.inf file I included here
so I can see what the final file is supposed to look like after the registry line gets pasted.

[Version]
Signature="$Windows NT$"
Class=DiskDrive
ClassGuid={4D36E967-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
Provider=%HGST%
LayoutFile=layout.inf
DriverVer=12/14/2002,1.00.0000.1

[Manufacturer]
%HGST% = cfadisk_device

[DestinationDirs]
cfadisk_copyfiles=12    ; %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers
gendisk_copyfiles=12    ; %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers

[cfadisk_copyfiles]
cfadisk.sys

[gendisk_copyfiles]
disk.sys

; ---------------------

[cfadisk_device]
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-11000__________________________SC2IC801
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-11000__________________________SC2IC815
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-11000__________________________SC2IC915

%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-10512__________________________SC1IC801
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-10512__________________________SC1IC815
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DSCM-10512__________________________SC1IC915

%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DMDM-10340__________________________MD2IC501
%Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIBM-DMDM-10340__________________________MD2IC601

; debug on VMWare/special drive
; %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskVMware_Virtual_IDE_Hard_Drive___________00000001
; %Microdrive_devdesc% = cfadisk_install,IDE\DiskIC25N040ATCS04-0________________________CA4OA71A

[cfadisk_addreg]
HKR,,"LowerFilters",0x00010008,"cfadisk"

[cfadisk_install]
CopyFiles=cfadisk_copyfiles,gendisk_copyfiles

[cfadisk_install.HW]
AddReg=cfadisk_addreg

[cfadisk_install.Services]
AddService=disk,2,gendisk_ServiceInstallSection
AddService=cfadisk,,cfadisk_ServiceInstallSection

[gendisk_ServiceInstallSection]
DisplayName    = "Disk Driver"
ServiceType    = 1
StartType      = 0
ErrorControl   = 1
ServiceBinary  = %12%\disk.sys
LoadOrderGroup = SCSI Class

[cfadisk_ServiceInstallSection]
DisplayName    = "CompactFlash Filter Driver"
ServiceType    = 1
StartType      = 3
ErrorControl   = 1
ServiceBinary  = %12%\cfadisk.sys
LoadOrderGroup = Pnp Filter

; -----------------------

[Strings]
HGST = "Hitachi Global Storage Technologies"
Microdrive_devdesc = "Hitachi Microdrive"

Thanks!