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#1 2009-10-17 4:30:28 pm

pindar
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OpenSuSE 11.2

Has anybody tried OpenSuSE 11.2? I just installed it RC1 to a SDHC, and after playing with it for a while, I was fairly impressed. The opensuse people have finally managed to make installation easy; you can just dd the live cd image to a usb stick. Wireless worked right OTOB, there's an eeepc-laptop module installed by default which controls the function keys. Installation was straightforward, yet I had to fiddle with the grub menu.lst a bit, but that may have been because I always want the grub bootloader to boot of the SDHC and leave the SSD alone. The system seems snappy and responsive, and it looks really gorgeous. So now I can really recommend opensuse for the eeepc. I like the way they have one single menu bar in Gnome, that saves a bit of screen real estate. Grab a USB stick and try the live CD, you'll be impressed!

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#2 2009-10-17 11:01:56 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

thanks for the info, ive always wanted to try opensuse, but i could never get it to work off of a usb, now i can give it a try.


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#3 2009-10-18 2:21:01 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Tested it today, and it's nice that dding the liveCD to a USB stick is enable now.

The major improvement to the previous 11 versions I had been trying previously is the suppression of these enormous icons in YaST, the software installer (http://en.opensuse.org/Yast); they were so big you could hardly have more than a few packages listed on the screen. Now, there are lists with tickable items, just like in Synaptic, and that's more handy.

The eeepc's features were supported from the start of 11th version, and the OpenSUSE graphics make the hit; Gnome is beautiful with OpenSUSE! Compiz runs nicely in live mode.

There are a lot of network services you might never get the use of, unless you have Windows near by; but if you want an access to a Windows machine, they might be a plus.

My previous experiences with Gnome on OpenSUSE were that mixing the different Gnome repositories, and trying to suppress the OpenSUSE branding of Gnome packages, soon led to a mess; only perhaps it was because at that time Gnome 2.28 was in testing/experimental repositories (will have to explore that further).

The new features are listed here: http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2


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#4 2009-10-18 9:36:25 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

11.2 RC1 doesn't work on my Eee 701.

It boots as Live CD from an attached USB CD drive, but then it says it can't find a CD or USB drive!

Then it reboots and the same repeats.

Same problem as http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php? … 49#p640549

Last edited by freeetos (2009-10-18 9:38:11 am)


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#5 2009-10-18 10:26:46 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

You can try to boot from your CD by editing Grub when it starts (when starting, select the distro you want to boot, then press the tab key, then the e key (to edit)) and add the following to the booting parameters:
rootdelay=20 (so it gives 20 seconds to the machine to find the USB CD reader)
from=/dev/sr0/the_name_of_iso_version.iso (sr0 often is the label for USB CD readers)

Then enter, then b, and that should work


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#6 2009-11-01 9:53:26 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Greetings all EEE users! I just downloaded the last release canddate of OpenSuse 11.2, KDE version and am running it from an external cd drive now. Even running live it is very impressive on the 701. I recommend it live to anyone who has been considering OpenSuse in the past but has been unsure about trying it. I thought 11.1 was smooth, this version just takes it a little further. Wireless live on a WPA encrypted home router is perfect, sound, screen resolution, etc.
Cheers! smile


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#7 2009-11-04 7:23:06 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

pindar wrote:

Has anybody tried OpenSuSE 11.2? ...The opensuse people have finally managed to make installation easy; you can just dd the live cd image to a usb stick.

Really? I didn't notice that in reading the install stuff on the OpenSuse site, in fact the instructions for setting up a live-USB are rather messy , even Unetbootin can't do it with the .iso image file. Reference?


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#8 2009-11-04 8:07:48 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

RubyTuesday wrote:

pindar wrote:

Has anybody tried OpenSuSE 11.2? ...The opensuse people have finally managed to make installation easy; you can just dd the live cd image to a usb stick.

Really? I didn't notice that in reading the install stuff on the OpenSuse site, in fact the instructions for setting up a live-USB are rather messy , even Unetbootin can't do it with the .iso image file. Reference?

Here's a reference. But whatever you do, don't just try it. I mean, simply dd'ing the iso to your stick, who know what could happen? Locusts, floods, fish jumping out of their fish tanks...

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#9 2009-11-04 11:16:43 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

pindar wrote:

Here's a reference. But whatever you do, don't just try it. I mean, simply dd'ing the iso to your stick, who know what could happen? Locusts, floods, fish jumping out of their fish tanks...

Not a very impressive one! Not even an official OpenSuse live-cd file, and requiring other software to make it work! Come back when OS are offering  a live-CD iso file that transfers onto USB without further manipulation.

No mention of the USB option on the 11.2-RC2 download page (http://software.opensuse.org/developer/en), certainly if you try booting that image it complains that it can't find disks and exits.

Ooops! Correction - if you dd the image to the usb key it does boot OS as advertised! Serves me right for using unetbootin rather than dd, sorry about getting that wrong, still once you get the OS desktop up it seems worth while, pretty solid.

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#10 2009-11-17 3:20:17 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

I am getting geared up to replace openSUSE 11.1 on my eeePC 1000HA to openSUSE 11.2. I did a full install last spring of 11.1 using the DVD media, but from USB. I hit a bump during preparing my bootable USB installation for openSUSE 11.2.  The process I am using was one I learned on this site, I think from posts by Pindar.

Maybe there is a smarter path to take, but I do not want the live-CD media, but want to install from the DVD media (without actually having a DVD drive that I can hook to the netbook).  I ran into a problem with the bootable partition from my regular desktop system (also openSuSE 11.1 and as up to date as online update can make it) that I believe is an issue between the level of syslinux on the 11.1 system and a parameter in the isolinux.cfg/syslinux.cfg on the openSUSE-11.2-NET-i586.iso  images boot/i386/loader directory.  (More below.)

So the process that I use is:
* Download the openSUSE-11.2-NET-i586.iso and also the openSUSE-11.2-DVD-i586.iso to my regular desktop system or even to the eeePC if I wanted to. Currently both my desktop and the eeePC are openSUSE 11.1.
* Take an 8G USB stick (because a 4G stick is not big enough)
* Using fdisk, partition the USB stick with two partitions
    - first partition is 500M, type FAT32, and set the bootable flag
    - second partition that occupies all remaining space on the drive
* mkfs.vfat -F 32  <first-partition>
* mkfs.ext3 -t ext3 -L iso-storage -O large_file  <second-partition>
* Download the mksusebootdisk script from: http://opensource.hqcodeshop.com/suse/mksusebootdisk
   because the "boot/i386/mkbootdisk" script on the iso image is still broken near as I can tell.
* Mount the "NET" iso image on a loop back device:
     mount -o ro -o loop openSUSE-11.2-NET-i586.iso /mnt/x
* ./mksusebootdisk --32 --partition <first-partition-device-on-usb-stick>  /mnt/x
* Umount the "NET" iso.
     umount /mnt/x
* Mount the ext3 filesystem on the USB stick somwhere where it can be written upon.
     mount <second-partition-device-on-usb-stick>  /mnt/x
* Copy the DVD iso image as a file to the ext3 filesystem. Change its name to "dvd.iso" for later shorthand.
     cp openSUSE-11.2-DVD-i586.iso /mnt/x/dvd.iso
* Umount the ext3 filesystem on the USB stick
     umount /mnt/x

At this point, I should have been able to go to the eeePC and boot this USB stick and then fill in
   install=hd:////dvd.iso
in the "Boot options:" and go to town installing with him using the dvd.iso image from the ext3 partition. However, if I did not make the below correction, then when booting the USB stick created by using the 11.2 media,  isolinux/syslinux would stop right away with an error message
"Unknown keyword in configuration file."
and leave me at its "boot:" prompt.

Now comes the step I had to do to correct the syslinux/isolinux menu error that keeps this from successfully booting. This error does not occur if using the 11.1 media, but does occur when I try to boot having done the above process with the 11.2 media and having performed it from my 11.1 system.  In fact, I found this by looking at  the two files on the 11.1 and 11.2 media, and this is the the only difference between them.

* Mount the FAT 32 first partition device on the USB stick so we can edit a file on it.
     mount <first-partition-device-on-usb-stick> /mnt/x
* Edit the file named syslinux.cfg on that filesystem
     vi  /mnt/x/syslinux.cfg
      (or substitute your favorite editor for "vi")
     locate the line that reads:
      ui    gfxboot bootlogo message
     comment out that line and add two additional so that it looks as follows:

     # ui            gfxboot bootlogo message
     gfxboot bootlogo
     display message

    File away your changes.
* Umount the FAT32 filesystem
     umount /mnt/x



I'm reckoning they must be building the iso images for the 11.2 distribution on systems having perhaps a higher level of isolinux/syslinux on them than my 11.1 system has. On my 11.1 system, the syslinux rpm level is: syslinux-3.63-44.12      The "ui" parameter looks legitimate from the isolinux doc the web, but I don't see a changelog readily available to see when they might have added it. But since I am essentially rebuilding a bootable disk using openSUSE's media, something is amiss.


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#11 2009-11-18 5:24:29 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

The gfxboot seems to be not yet belonging to the original syslinux, see:
http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.ph … M32_module

I had also problems to install the openSuse 11.2 Lice-CD onto an USB stick.

First I tested the recommended dd-method. The USB-stick started booting, but then did not find the compressed file system and stopped.
Then I formatted the stick to ext2 and installed extlinux, the ext2-version of syslinux. This resulted in a single line of "Read Error" being shown.
Finally I installed grub onto the USB stick and now it works perfectly. Even WLAN works without any fixes required.

This post is written from the openSuse Live-CD running on my 701 4G.
inux@linux:~/Dokumente> uname -a
Linux linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-default #1 SMP 2009-10-26 15:49:03 +0100 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

linux@linux:~/Dokumente> lsmod | grep eee
eeepc_laptop           17428  0
rfkill                 22868  2 cfg80211,eeepc_laptop
pci_hotplug            32928  1 eeepc_laptop
hwmon                   3676  2 eeepc_laptop,thermal_sys

linux@linux:~/Dokumente> lsmod | grep ath
ath5k                 138632  0
mac80211              214968  1 ath5k
led_class               4836  1 ath5k
ath                     8608  1 ath5k
cfg80211              103584  3 ath5k,mac80211,ath

This Live-CD can also be used to install the distribution.


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#12 2009-11-18 5:47:12 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2


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#13 2009-11-20 2:49:55 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

I did an installation of 11.2 yesterday on my 1000HA.  I chose the "update" rather than "new install" route  through the installation since 11.1 was already installed.  I was dissatisfied with the result. Too many broken things left over. Did not reboot correctly after the initial install. Had to manhandle it.  Nothing that I could not have addressed item by item to correct. But without knowing how deep the hole was, I decided to reinstall and select "new install". I don't thing the issues with "update" are unique to this release.

The Fn keys seem to work ok.  Wireless worked for me out of the box as for others (ath5k).

I did notice that the "blank the screen NOW silver button" (left most button on my 1000HA on the same row as the power button) no longer works as it did under 11.1.

I think, but am not sure, that the Fn+F9 key would bring up a performance related program under 11.1. Nothing  now under 11.2.  Not an issue and particularly not since I am even sure that it formerly worked under 11.1.

Last edited by garyeee (2009-11-20 2:50:25 pm)


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#14 2009-12-01 6:29:30 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Some more on my experiments with OpenSuse 11.2 in that thread :
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=79868


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#15 2009-12-04 12:37:17 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Greetings all. I have installed OpenSuse 11.2 KDE version to an 8 gig USB stick on my 701 4g and it runs beautifully, wifi, sound, keys. The only problem i had was during installation, the screen resolution is too large and makes it impossible to see the choices on the bottom of the installer screens. In 11.1 you could resize them but I could not see how to do that in 11.2. I ended up attaching an external desktop monitor to do the install but still with some difficulty.


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#16 2009-12-04 3:53:52 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Yes, the hardware is fully supported. I have only a problem with panning. In KDE, I can enable it statically, but not dynamically- In IceWM, I can switch dynamically. See here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=79868


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#17 2009-12-04 10:17:27 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Thanks Engineer. I actually read your linked post before I posted my own. Like I say, other than the pain with the oversized install screens, OpenSuse 11.2 is sweet. The only other issue I have seen so far is a crash in trying to use Kwrite under superuser permission in order to edit /boot/grub/menu/lst. The openSuse team has come so far over the last year in getting the distro netbook friendly. Other than Jolicloud, which is a dream on the 701, OpenSuse has been my favourite distro since I began using Linux in 2006 on my desktop.
(Guelph is cloudy and very chilly tonight.)


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#18 2009-12-05 4:05:27 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Yup, I hit the same snag when I installed. Interestingly, only when installing from the live CD, when I ran the installer from the DVD iso image, this didn't happen. But I just looked at the layout of the buttons in other screens and tabbed my way  to the right button blindly... And I agree: opensuse is now one of the best linux distros for the eee.

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#19 2009-12-05 3:36:19 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Did you get xrandr --panning working in KDE ?

In IceWM, this is no problem:
To enable panning : xrandr --output LVDS --panning 1024x768
To switch back    : xrandr --output LVDS --panning 800x480

KDE refuses to expand to the new size.


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#20 2009-12-07 5:45:42 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

So, has anyone got xsnow working on openSUSE 11.2? It seems the window manager in kde draws over the xsnow stuff, when turning compositing on and off one sees tantalising glimses of the snow and santas!


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#21 2009-12-07 4:12:48 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

RubyTuesday wrote:

So, has anyone got xsnow working on openSUSE 11.2? It seems the window manager in kde draws over the xsnow stuff, when turning compositing on and off one sees tantalising glimses of the snow and santas!

Have you tested it in IceWM ?  If you have IceWM installed together with KDE, you can use the "Session" sub-menu of the login-screen to start an IceWM-Session.

My experience with xrandr --panning in KDE and in IceWM lets me suspect that there a problem in the KDE window manager.


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#22 2009-12-07 9:54:45 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Running OpenSuse on the eee or on a desktop is like driving a manual transmission Volkswagen. Not always flashy but solid, reliable German engineeering. smile


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#23 2009-12-08 8:05:24 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Ha! I used to think VWs were reliable till I had one! It just shows the power of advertising.


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#24 2009-12-08 8:12:05 am

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Engineer wrote:

RubyTuesday wrote:

So, has anyone got xsnow working on openSUSE 11.2? It seems the window manager in kde draws over the xsnow stuff, when turning compositing on and off one sees tantalising glimses of the snow and santas!

Have you tested it in IceWM ?  If you have IceWM installed together with KDE, you can use the "Session" sub-menu of the login-screen to start an IceWM-Session.

My experience with xrandr --panning in KDE and in IceWM lets me suspect that there a problem in the KDE window manager.

Good suggestion, thanks Engineer! Yes it works on the IceWM desktop, as it does on a Gnome machine I have too.

What I need to complete the Christmas decor on my machine is some blinking lights around the screen edges and Slade playing quietly (oxymoron?) in the background.


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#25 2009-12-27 11:04:17 pm

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Re: OpenSuSE 11.2

Dec. 27. Still loving OpenSuse 11.2 on the 701. Smooth, all hardware working, great community repositories like Packman. I highly recommend trying it if you are looking for a Linux distro for your eee.
And, the command line tool zypper is nice to use after you switch user to root:
zypper refresh = refresh repositories
zypper update = update packages
zypper install (package name) installs a package
Sweet! Cheers from Guelph Ontario Canada! smile

Last edited by Freshmeadow (2009-12-27 11:05:13 pm)


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