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it would be great if you remake the utilities but not port it for ubuntu, instead just keep it exclusively for EB4, it would save you a lot of headaches and also might help to get more eee users into EB4.
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fewt wrote:
Testing, Unstable, and Stable are all rolling releases with much longer point in time release cycles.
Well Debian actually have release cycles with the stable version frozen and renamed every so often - the other versions (unsable/sid, testing) being more or less continually updated builds with little configuration management and not much testing before packages are added, so naturally they tend to break from time to time. This is not rolling releases but part of the development process leading to stable, infrequently updated releases, criteria for release being set by reference to bug reports (AIUT). Rolling releases are a testing nightmare because of the lack of config control and change management. NASA don't work that way, but it may be fun for amateur users who don't care if their systems break from time to time. MSFT by all account have daily builds with regression testing and proper config control. Again nothing to do with 'rolling releases'. Good luck with the project.
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Yes, I fully understand how Debian works. There will be some subtle differences between EB4 and Debian, however there are more similarities than not in the process. Steve could probably fill you in on the details better than I could, I guess my explanation of the process isn't very good. I only have a very small role. 
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RubyTuesday wrote:
fewt wrote:
Testing, Unstable, and Stable are all rolling releases with much longer point in time release cycles.
Well Debian actually have release cycles with the stable version frozen and renamed every so often - the other versions (unsable/sid, testing) being more or less continually updated builds with little configuration management and not much testing before packages are added, so naturally they tend to break from time to time. This is not rolling releases but part of the development process leading to stable, infrequently updated releases, criteria for release being set by reference to bug reports (AIUT). Rolling releases are a testing nightmare because of the lack of config control and change management. NASA don't work that way, but it may be fun for amateur users who don't care if their systems break from time to time. MSFT by all account have daily builds with regression testing and proper config control. Again nothing to do with 'rolling releases'. Good luck with the project.
Now, for the rest of us, can we just agree that the move to a rolling release and a Debian base will be a good thing?
Please?
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fewt wrote:
Last I checked it worked with Karmic so it will probably still work with EB4.
Yep your utils are working a treat on my 9.10 with LXDE - tray looks and works 100%.
Wierd thing Linux - thousands of developers all over the globe, most of whom have never met, working away in a semi-coordinated way but seemingly without any obvious management structure - and lo an behold we have something that actually works and even more miraculous its free to the user and rivals OSs made by famous organisations who must have the best managers and developers in their employment and spend zillions on development.
I've often thought that if all the developer energy was channeled into one super duper distro then it really would be amazing. . . . yet somehow I think the diversity is what makes it so interesting.
I would have thought its best for eb to focus on netbooks rather than the whole desktop arena. The beauty of it is the way everything works - they would have to lose that if they expanded their remit.
cimh
901 9.10+LXDE
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yes, i believe that if they move into desktops and laptops then they will be taking away the one feature that made so many people use their distro, the fact that everything works, if they broaden their reach then something is bound to fail.
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cimh wrote:
Wierd thing Linux - thousands of developers all over the globe, most of whom have never met, working away in a semi-coordinated way but seemingly without any obvious management structure - and lo an behold we have something that actually works and even more miraculous its free to the user and rivals OSs made by famous organisations who must have the best managers and developers in their employment and spend zillions on development.
I've often thought that if all the developer energy was channeled into one super duper distro then it really would be amazing. . . . yet somehow I think the diversity is what makes it so interesting.
cimh
901 9.10+LXDE
Lest we forget those thousands of developers, beavering away unpaid - thank you one and all.
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rusty815 wrote:
yes, i believe that if they move into desktops and laptops then they will be taking away the one feature that made so many people use their distro, the fact that everything works, if they broaden their reach then something is bound to fail.
I wouldn't worry too much about that actually. 
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yeah, im just stating one of the concerns, i have faith in the eeebuntu team that they will get everything right, judging from what they have done in the past.
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