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#1 2009-10-27 11:08:15 pm

Confuseling
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Registered: 2008-09-14
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Squeeze install via USB

Anyone got any tips for an eee 1000? The instructions here

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … dInstaller

don't work for me - it boots, but can't find the network. I understand that the wireless requires firmware, but surely ethernet should work?

I want to install straight to EXT4, so although installing Lenny then upgrading does work, I'd prefer not to.

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#2 2009-10-27 11:27:37 pm

Bluester
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From: Washington
Registered: 2008-02-24
Posts: 53

Re: Squeeze install via USB

Confuseling wrote:

Anyone got any tips for an eee 1000? The instructions here

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … dInstaller

don't work for me - it boots, but can't find the network. I understand that the wireless requires firmware, but surely ethernet should work?

I want to install straight to EXT4, so although installing Lenny then upgrading does work, I'd prefer not to.

900a -
I wish I had better news for you...

I tried installing via the testing image and could not get it to recognize my wireless or ethernet. sad
I installed lenny and upgraded. I have not moved to Ext4 as of yet.
However, I am noticing a difference in memory usage and disk space usage installing debian as opposed to ubuntu.

debian squeeze 2.6.30-2-686 1.1gb lxde with a few gnome apps
ubuntu 9.10 2.6.30-2 1.5gb lxde with the same gnome apps

I love the ability to install apps using

Code:

sudo aptitude install abcd_efg-application --without-recommends

from a 'base' install -- dependicies are decreased from the beginning.

good luck and let us know how things go.


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#3 2009-10-28 10:45:37 am

Confuseling
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

It is a very elegant system - which is blinking annoying when it won't install.

I'm still at a loss as to why this doesn't work. The Attansic L2 driver should be in kernel as best I can tell - I can't find a squeeze package for it.

Maybe I'll just wait for the new eeebuntu to materialise - it's going to be based on Debian (unstable I think). If it's binary compatible (or at least has a full copy of the Debian repo) it'll work for me.

Still, if anyone does figure out a way to get this to work, please do let me know. I guess it may just be a case of waiting for a new installer, whether an updated standard one or the Debian on the eee people's first squeeze offering.

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#4 2009-10-28 1:15:02 pm

aj123
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Registered: 2009-09-19
Posts: 82

Re: Squeeze install via USB

Confuseling wrote:

Anyone got any tips for an eee 1000? The instructions here

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … dInstaller

don't work for me - it boots, but can't find the network. I understand that the wireless requires firmware, but surely ethernet should work?

I want to install straight to EXT4, so although installing Lenny then upgrading does work, I'd prefer not to.

Networking will fail during install of squeeze/testing(at least on the 1005ha).  It should detect and list them, but will still fail.  You have to manually configure it after.

Just reinstalled last night and the graphical install threw up errors but had success with text install.


Manually configuring after:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Model/1005HA

Last edited by aj123 (2009-10-28 1:19:15 pm)

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#5 2009-10-28 1:24:41 pm

aj123
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Registered: 2009-09-19
Posts: 82

Re: Squeeze install via USB

Bluester wrote:

Confuseling wrote:

Anyone got any tips for an eee 1000? The instructions here

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowT … dInstaller

don't work for me - it boots, but can't find the network. I understand that the wireless requires firmware, but surely ethernet should work?

I want to install straight to EXT4, so although installing Lenny then upgrading does work, I'd prefer not to.

900a -
I wish I had better news for you...

I tried installing via the testing image and could not get it to recognize my wireless or ethernet. sad
I installed lenny and upgraded. I have not moved to Ext4 as of yet.
However, I am noticing a difference in memory usage and disk space usage installing debian as opposed to ubuntu.

debian squeeze 2.6.30-2-686 1.1gb lxde with a few gnome apps
ubuntu 9.10 2.6.30-2 1.5gb lxde with the same gnome apps

I love the ability to install apps using

Code:

sudo aptitude install abcd_efg-application --without-recommends

from a 'base' install -- dependicies are decreased from the beginning.

good luck and let us know how things go.

Was the during the install or after?  IIRC most eeepc hardware is supported by squeeze/testing.  Networking *always* fails for me during install but after manually configuring it works perfectly.

Yes, debian is much better vs ubuntu.

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#6 2009-10-28 1:50:40 pm

Confuseling
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Registered: 2008-09-14
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

aj123 wrote:

Networking will fail during install of squeeze/testing(at least on the 1005ha).  It should detect and list them, but will still fail.  You have to manually configure it after.

Just reinstalled last night and the graphical install threw up errors but had success with text install.


Manually configuring after:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Model/1005HA

Using which image though? The only ones I'm finding are business cards and netinstalls, and I can't see any way to install anything from those without networking...

Thanks.

[ETA - I'm guessing the weekly builds failed, and they're the only way to get the larger ISOs. Oh well...]

Last edited by Confuseling (2009-10-28 2:33:40 pm)

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#7 2009-10-28 2:28:01 pm

aj123
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Registered: 2009-09-19
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

Follow the instructions using the netinst ISO of testing/squeeze.  It includes the base installation.

When you get to the networking section it will find your ethernet and wireless, but will fail.  Skip that section and install the base/command line configuration.  After booting into the base install, set up networking manually and apt-get what you want i.e. gnome, lxde, fluxbox, etc.


You can try substituting the weekly squeeze ISO in place of the squeeze netinst but that failed every single time for me.

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386
+
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/ima … oot.img.gz

vs

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily … etinst.iso
+
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/ima … oot.img.gz

Last edited by aj123 (2009-10-28 2:34:17 pm)

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#8 2009-10-28 3:27:25 pm

Confuseling
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Registered: 2008-09-14
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

Aha! Definitely progress, thanks.

For some reason it doesn't detect the ISO when it scans of its own accord initially, and you have to tell it to look for it again - that threw me before (understandably smile).

Will update progress...

[BTW - there are no weekly squeeze ISOs; that's one of the things that's been troubling me wink]

Update: It works! In fact, it actually happily installed over the network once I had it going.

Marvellous. Cheers for your time.

Last edited by Confuseling (2009-10-28 5:26:15 pm)

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#9 2009-10-30 5:17:36 pm

RubyTuesday
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Registered: 2009-02-06
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

Yes this squeeze installer can be hours of fun, I just installed a squeeze KDE base system on a USB key and had four main problems: (i) the installer didn't set up Grub2 (this seems a common issue, the developers should sort this out!); (ii) no accounts set up on the installed system (no root password set either); (iii) no Ethernet (udev was confused by me moving the installed USB key from one machine to another); (iv) no wifi  - the dreaded Broadcom 4312 missing driver. Oh yes, hours of fun.


- RubyTuesday

"While the sun is bright / Or in the darkest night
No one knows / She comes and goes"

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#10 2009-11-06 6:51:05 am

RubyTuesday
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Registered: 2009-02-06
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

...but strangely enough the Deb. squeeze net installer ran right through very quicky and did all the right things when I burned it onto a CD and installed on my main desktop machine yesterday.


- RubyTuesday

"While the sun is bright / Or in the darkest night
No one knows / She comes and goes"

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#11 2009-11-06 8:56:48 am

Gothnet
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Registered: 2008-08-04
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

Just to stick my oar in -

Bluester wrote:

I love the ability to install apps using

Code:

sudo aptitude install abcd_efg-application --without-recommends

from a 'base' install -- dependicies are decreased from the beginning.

If you use apt-get instead of aptitude then it misses out the recommended stuff anyway, and just puts in the dependencies. Aptitude is nice, and has a bit more intelligence if/when stuff goes wrong, but for general use I prefer apt-get. Same command line - apt-get install <application>

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#12 2009-11-07 3:46:45 pm

Confuseling
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Registered: 2008-09-14
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Re: Squeeze install via USB

Isn't it recommended that you only use apt-get or aptitude, but not both?

Or is that advice out of date?

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#13 2009-11-07 10:58:24 pm

aj123
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Registered: 2009-09-19
Posts: 82

Re: Squeeze install via USB

I wouldn't mix them.  Aptitude will remove dependencies when removing items, apt will not unless you add "autoremove."

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