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#1 2009-11-02 11:06:52 am

zEdgar
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701 4G Cam connector

Hello. I would like to know if the camera connection on the motherboard provides electricity when computer is off.
Because i decided to hook up a USB hub and do modifications. Camera port is good, because i don't know how to solder and i don't have any equipment.
Although my EEE doesn't have camera, it has camera port, lol.

And 1 more thing:
I'm planning to upgrade RAM and i want to ask : do the has to be 667 MHz like the stock one or it could be 800 MHz and whats the difference.

EDIT:
Forgot to ask: how many gigs can EEE's SD slot handle? And what is better: SD or USB flash drive ?

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#2 2009-11-02 11:24:32 am

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

hi, welcome to eeeuser smile

the camera port will not supply power when the eee is off, but be careful how many devices you're powering from it because it doesn't have overcurrent protection like a normal USB port would.

as for the RAM, an 800MHz stick should work fine but it wont really give you any inprovement because of the bus speed in the rest of the system. i'd say just get yourself a good 2GB stick. something like crucial, kingston or patriot should be fine.

the SD reader can handle most SD-HC cards you'll find. i've had a 32GB working in mine for a while with no issues. if you're looking for a more "permanent" and unobtrusive storage solution i'd say go for the SD card... higher classes like a class 6 are best for speed.


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#3 2009-11-02 11:35:48 am

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

RandyLude92 wrote:

hi, welcome to eeeuser smile

the camera port will not supply power when the eee is off, but be careful how many devices you're powering from it because it doesn't have overcurrent protection like a normal USB port would.

as for the RAM, an 800MHz stick should work fine but it wont really give you any inprovement because of the bus speed in the rest of the system. i'd say just get yourself a good 2GB stick. something like crucial, kingston or patriot should be fine.

the SD reader can handle most SD-HC cards you'll find. i've had a 32GB working in mine for a while with no issues. if you're looking for a more "permanent" and unobtrusive storage solution i'd say go for the SD card... higher classes like a class 6 are best for speed.

How many devices could camera port handle? I'm planning to hook up bluetooth dongle and maybe a touch screen. I heard that touch screen DIY kits do come with a USB hub.

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#4 2009-11-02 11:47:36 am

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

most of the newer touch kits do come with a hub now. for just a bluetooth and the touch panel it's self you should be fine. neither of those tend to draw a lot of power.


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#5 2009-11-02 12:30:18 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

But will i be able to play for example GTA Vice City without lags? I'm talking about the transfer speed.

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#6 2009-11-02 12:41:41 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

ummmm... good luck with that one on ANY EeePC model hmm

maybe if you juice it up with eeectl.
the intel 915 graphics and the underclocked celeron (running at 600MHz) aren't really that great at handling intensive games like GTA.
also maybe take a look at tweaking windows to save resorces and try running zFlashpoint to speed up SSD read/writes.

here are some links that may help you out with performance tweaks like eeectl and zflashpoint:

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=65201

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=8808&p=1

also, there are lots of tutorials on how to get a little more speed out of your rig all around the forums here, but like i said, GTA is pushing it.


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#7 2009-11-02 1:24:53 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

I already tried playing Vice City from external HDD with stock 512MB RAM and overcloacked to 1 GHz (999 MHz) (Yes, theres no that option on EEECTL, but i made few of my own configurations in .ini and worked) and its work fine, no lags. Tried crashing into cars, shooting, driving - work like a charm.

Heres some dudes even launched GTA San Andreas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KtMLKsLnn0

So don't think that it can handle only card games smile

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#8 2009-11-02 2:56:25 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

lol
i'm not saying it can only handle card games... if there's anybody aroung here that has pushed the old 70X series to it's limits... you're talking to one of them wink

i'm well aware that you can get a 70X model over a gig, my modded 702 (8G) runs at 1,500MHz quite nicely with a few eeectl tweaks. (but that's uncommon to find stable in most cases and my CPU is... "different")

i was just letting you know that it can/will be prone to lags or slow framerates.


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#9 2009-11-02 3:11:52 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

RandyLude92 wrote:

lol
i'm not saying it can only handle card games... if there's anybody aroung here that has pushed the old 70X series to it's limits... you're talking to one of them wink

i'm well aware that you can get a 70X model over a gig, my modded 702 (8G) runs at 1,500MHz quite nicely with a few eeectl tweaks. (but that's uncommon to find stable in most cases and my CPU is... "different")

i was just letting you know that it can/will be prone to lags or slow framerates.

What do you mean.. different ? big_smile

I was amazed how EEE's graphics card launched the GTA SA, unbelievable to me.

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#10 2009-11-02 4:08:02 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

my 702 is (afaik) one of only to EeePC's to get a working CPU transplant.
had it swapped with a Dothan core 1.2GHz Pentium M.
my screen has also been swapped for the LCD from a 900... i'm the guy that wrote the VBIOS patch to make it possible after all the other veteran modders like JKK said it would never work.

but that's a bit off topic, i didn't mean to sound like i'm braging.


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#11 2009-11-02 4:26:57 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

I just tried launching GTA VC from a cheap SD card and set frequency to 1GHz and played for about half hour = no lags, which means i'll buy 8GB or 16GB SD for a storage.
BTW.: The heat came up to 65 C , i wonder its from the overcloacking or from bad cooling. More i noticed that at stock frequency at idle EEE heats up to ~50 C = time to change thermal paste (i meant those stickers) ?

Off topic: I didn't heard much about 702 , it's rare or something ?

Is it possible to change the bottom cover, because mine don't have that RAM door, i had to dismantle it to make sure the RAM is changeable.. But i guess i don't need that door too much..

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#12 2009-11-02 4:45:12 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

the 702 was the original 8G model, they were at such a rarity and premium (at least in the US) that they were selling for $500 or more on ebay.

they were later replaced by the 701SD 8G and the 900 8G models

you can replace your bottom chassis peice quite easily, they're the same for all 70X series so one that did get the RAM/SSD door would mate up with the rest of your existing chassis parts nicely.

as for the SD card i would say to go with a class 6, they cost a bit more but if you're actively running games or other apps from it the extra cost will be worth it for less lag.


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#13 2009-11-03 2:19:36 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

I have one more question:
I want to as to what direction does the 2nd miniPCIe slot points?
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6691/20500491054eadb40511o.th.jpg

It makes a good opportunity for a miniPCIe to USB adapter or just something like miniPCIe GPS module (GPS would be awesome on the netbook).

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#14 2009-11-03 4:02:59 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

that second connector isn't true mini PCI-e
it's a mix of SATA, PATA, USB and various power and ground pins.
it's meant for something like a runcore SSD card.
or one of the SSDs from a 702/900/etc...
the card would run parrallel with the RAM when installed.


i'll do some digging and see if i can find the pinout for it. you may find it usefull...

here it is:
http://leotardi.no-ip.com/html/eeepc/eeepcinsideimages/Eee_flash_con_pinout.png

Last edited by RandyLude92 (2009-11-03 4:07:22 pm)


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#15 2009-11-04 12:25:12 am

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

Yes, RandyLude92 is correct that's a Flash_Con, Asus proprietary version of a Mini PCIe form factor connector.  It's called Flash_Con because they added support for Flash Memory devices.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_g9Lr6a5sBjU/SaDKmnWooaI/AAAAAAAAAS8/GlAUOda7OXg/s640/eeesata.jpg

Not to be confused with regular Mini PCIe, which has a different Pinout.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4629/extrapcielane.png

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#16 2009-11-04 7:37:45 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

I don't desire to hijack this thread but seeing you two experienced people have posted just the pics and information I've been looking for....
on the Flash_Con pinout... are the D0-D15 pin connections necessary?  I'm having a difficult time figuring out how to get my soldering iron tip between my acquired mini-pcie connector and some other component(best description from memory at the moment) that sits right next to that area of pins.  So do I need to have all of the D0-D15 pins soldered down? 
Thanks ^_^

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#17 2009-11-04 9:58:22 pm

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Re: 701 4G Cam connector

If adding the whole Mini PCIe connector then yes, otherwise you only need to worry about the points for the device you will be connecting.  Since you can just connect a SATA or USB device straight to the corresponding pins.

For adding a Mini PCIe Connector though, this video gives good tips and covers the basics, Surface Mount Soldering 101, as well as this whole topic at this link, Tips for learning how to solder


Just basically use a lot of flux and tape over the parts you want to protect, and you'll do just fine.

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