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#1 2008-08-21 3:55:15 am

LGood
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simpleui.rc question

if i change my simpleui.rc and back it up somewhere other than where AsusLauncher pulls from, and i get an update, will it change my simpleui.rc? and if so, would i be able to copy the modified one from my backup to the location that AsusLauncher pulls from without messing stuff up?

this is all of course ASSUMING i figure out how to make the programs on the wiki work on my 901.

and has anyone found out where AsusLauncher pulls simpleui.rc from on a 901?


For all instances in which i ask for help, please note the following:
I have an EEE PC 901
It has the original Xandros Linux on it
I am a first-time Linux user

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#2 2008-08-21 10:01:59 am

claude j greengrass
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Re: simpleui.rc question

See the Wiki:
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:beginners … %20manager
Section 2. Create a working copy, back up and fix simpleui.rc


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#3 2008-08-21 5:09:06 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

yes, i followed the wiki however right beneath that is says it wont work for 901's.


For all instances in which i ask for help, please note the following:
I have an EEE PC 901
It has the original Xandros Linux on it
I am a first-time Linux user

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#4 2008-08-22 3:50:23 am

claude j greengrass
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Re: simpleui.rc question

LGood wrote:

yes, i followed the wiki however right beneath that is says it wont work for 901's.

..and it is complete with a link to: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=34323 which explains how to make it work on a 90x.  BTY if you had followed this link and read all the posts, you would have discovered that after an update, the 701 no longer works with ~/.AsusLauncher   The KEY is:

Code:

sudo ln -s /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /home/user/.AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

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#5 2008-08-22 8:25:19 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

i guess i just didnt really understand why the 701 stuff matters as i own a 901 and i was totally lost after having read the link that was provided.


For all instances in which i ask for help, please note the following:
I have an EEE PC 901
It has the original Xandros Linux on it
I am a first-time Linux user

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#6 2008-08-22 9:15:26 am

claude j greengrass
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Re: simpleui.rc question

Type Ctril + Alt + t
to get a terminal (Hold down both the Ctrl and Alt keys and then type 't' without the quotes)
From the terminal window enter to following commands

Code:

sudo mkdir /var/lib/AsusLauncher
sudo cp /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /var/lib/AsusLauncher
sudo chmod 666 /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc
mkdir /home/user/.AsusLauncher
sudo ln -s /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /home/user/.AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

Use your favorite text editor to edit /home/user/.AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc
or
use whatever GUI you perfer to mangle your copy of simpleui.rc
Note: changes will not be displayed until you re-boot or restart X-Windows.  Restarting X-Windows is faster.  (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)

Any (most/all) ASUS changes to simpleui.rc should happen in  the /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc file, unless ASUS decides that they want to clobber our private hacks.

YMMV

And around 10 September, 2008, Asus decided to clobber the private hacks with a naff version of simpleui.rc so you need to backup the /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc   I tried to F9 my machine and re-create the problem but Asus had removed one of the updates.

Put not your trust in princes nor in Asus.

Last edited by claude j greengrass (2008-09-11 3:35:08 pm)


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#7 2008-08-22 11:01:21 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

(Excuse me if I seem to be butting in but...) I just wanted to say to claude j greengrass that that is some nice work you (and some others) have been doing these past few days to resolve the simpleui conflict in the newer models.  I am happy with my almost original model 701 but can appreciate good work when I see it.  What you have done will help many people over a hurdle.  Thanks!  smile

EDIT: added another sentence...

Last edited by winotree (2008-08-22 11:07:34 am)


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#8 2008-08-23 2:46:18 am

claude j greengrass
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Re: simpleui.rc question

You're welcome.  I had the same problem with changes to simpleui.rc disappearing after software updates on my 701.  My 901 arrived on Tuesday.  I couldn't be happier with the hardware, but the software mix/integration with the 801 leaves a bit to be desired. When I saw someone was having a similar problem on the 901, I first tried ~./AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc on the901, which didn't work.  A google later and I found the /var/lib/AsusLauncher solution.  I only filled in the blanks for someone less experience.  Glad to be of assistance.

regards


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#9 2009-03-05 2:13:21 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Hello,

I have an eeepc 900 in Easy Mode with the SimpleUI Editor installed. When I start this editor it says its working on var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc. The problem is I have an icon in my Internet tab that does not show in the editor. I installed the 3epgprs program using the FileManager and opening the debian file with the Software Installer Wizard. The icon for this program is what I cannot find. I have also tried looking in /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc. Does anyone know where my desktop is really defined?

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#10 2009-03-05 9:33:24 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

The icons in Easy Mode tabs (Easy Mode does not have a desktop) are defined in var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc. However, icons of software from Eee Download that is installed using the Installer Wizard are in a different location. In /home/ you will see for each thus installed application a folder with a long name consisting of letters en numbers. That folder contains various files related to the application, among which the icon images and a file with a .xml extension. If you open that file, you will see it is formatted like the simpleui.rc file. It can be edited to change the tab you want the icon to appear. simplecat="Internet" will make the icon appear in the Internet tab. The English names of the tabs must be used.

BTW: During installation with the Installer Wizard you can choose the tab you want the icon to appear, so you do not need to change that afterwards.


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#11 2009-04-26 12:02:33 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Hello. I'm a new eee 901 owner. I got to this page from http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:beginners_guide. I'm trying to execute--or rather, I'm getting ready to execute--step two and back up the simpleui. I gather that Claude's code (#6) works for the 901. I have a couple of questions though.

Question #1: The first command "sudo mkdir /var/lib/AsusLauncher" makes a directory called "/var/lib/AsusLauncher." The second command, "sudo cp /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /var/lib/AsusLauncher," copies simpleui from the opt directory to the new var/lib directory. Is this correct?

Question #2: I have no directory called "/opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher" AND simpleui is located in /var/lib/AsusLauncher. So should I simply skip commands #1 & 2 and begin with #3 (sudo chmod 666 /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc) or is there some reason I would need to make a directory called /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher? And would it therefore make sense to rewrite the code, replacing  "/var/lib/AsusLauncher" with "/opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher" and vv thusly:

sudo mkdir /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/

sudo cp /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc  /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/

sudo chmod 666 /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/

mkdir /home/user/.AsusLauncher

sudo ln -s  /opt/xandros/share/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /home/user/.AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

I suspect that the deep linux response is something like: try it both ways and see what works but I'm hoping for some clearer insight before I leap.

Thanks for your help.

Christina

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#12 2009-04-26 12:31:16 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

On your 901 things work differently.

- ONLY if there is a file /opt/xandros/share/AssusLauncher/simpleui.rc AND if there is NOT a file /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc you start with the file /opt/xandros/share/AssusLauncher/simpleui.rc, but at the end the edited file should be /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

- The file that is used on your 901 is the file var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

- A file /home/user/.AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc will be ignored on your 901, so creating that file does nothing.


If you want to edit simpleui.rc, make a backup copy of var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc and then edit var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

This is how I do it:

cp /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc /home/user/Backups/simpleui.rc.bak
cp /home/user/Backups/simpleui.rc.bak  /home/user/Backups/simpleui.rc.new

I edit simpleui.rc.new and then:

sudo cp /home/user/Backups/simpleui.rc.new var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc

Edit: Some Asus updates will replace var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc adding or rearranging icons while your own edits will be removed. So, if you want to keep both the changes provided with the update and your own changes, you will need to do the copying and editing all over again.

Last edited by RonaldP (2009-04-26 12:38:27 pm)


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#13 2009-04-26 3:44:04 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Thanks, Ronald. This seems simple enough. Christina

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#14 2009-10-31 8:07:45 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Hi, I have just bought a new EeePC 700SD.  I am new to Linux.  I would like to back up simpleui.rc but am unsure exactly where to find it!!  I have read through several forum threads but note that there have been a few changes/updates.  As a Windows user I tried to navigate to /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc  via File Manager but as soon as I click on /var File Manager closes down.  I am keen to learn to use the terminal (but wary) to carry out some of the options listed in Tweaking for Absolute Beginners!!  I tried navigating to simpleui.rc by using terminal - find -name simpleui.rc but this didn't work.  I would really appreciate some help from you guys if you can find the time to help out out an aging rookie!!

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#15 2009-10-31 9:05:57 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Congrats on owning a fine little computer--and welcome to the forum. I have an Eee 900, but I doubt that file locations are different on the 700SD (though I can't be sure.

Have you read the wiki listed below:

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:beginners_guide

See particularly section 2: 2. Create a working copy, back up and fix simpleui.rc


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#16 2009-10-31 9:58:47 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Thanks for that.  Yes it is the wiki l mentioned - Tweaking for Absolute Beginners.  It links to this forum and the post from - claude j greengrass - 2008-08-23 1:15:26 am.  In this he talks about Asus making changes to simpleui.rc around 10 September, 2008 and identifies the need to backup the /var/lib/AsusLauncher/simpleui.rc.  This is where I get lost and why I posted for help.  It is also why I reverted to File Manager to try and check it out .  Additionally, as the post from claude j greengrass is over a year old I have no idea if it is still current info!

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#17 2009-10-31 11:53:05 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Yes, all new EeePC version have user simpleui.rc in /var/lib/AsusLauncher/. The one in ~/.AsusLaucher is no longer read by the system.

You can verify this from the EeePC software version. If it is version 1.6 or above, it is definitely in /var/lib/AsusLauncher/. Even if you have the old 701 version, with Asus Update, you will also end up with the user simpleui.rc in /var/lib/AsusLauncher/.

Just open a terminal and check for this file:

Code:

ls /var/lib/AsusLauncher/

If simpleui.rc shows up, then the problem you are mentioning may just be due to problem with File Manager. Some people experience such problem with File Manager close down by itself after applying the Printer update from Asus.


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#18 2009-11-01 12:48:31 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Great, thank you.  My version number is 1.6.1.64 and your code took me direct to the folder and its contents.  Am I right in thinking that I should now use the code supplied by claude j greengrass (2008-08-23 1:15:26 am) to carry out a back-up for simpleui.rc?  File Manager does not seem to like doing much beyond showing files and copy/paste.  It even shuts down when I right click on anything then click on properties - do I need to fix this and if so how, please.

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#19 2009-11-01 9:57:06 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

wotnot wrote:

Great, thank you.  My version number is 1.6.1.64 and your code took me direct to the folder and its contents.  Am I right in thinking that I should now use the code supplied by claude j greengrass (2008-08-23 1:15:26 am) to carry out a back-up for simpleui.rc?

Correct

wotnot wrote:

File Manager does not seem to like doing much beyond showing files and copy/paste.  It even shuts down when I right click on anything then click on properties - do I need to fix this and if so how, please.

See my blog: http://eeepc-albkwan.blogspot.com/2009/ … -asus.html


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#20 2009-11-01 8:35:46 pm

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Regarding the File Manager fix - when I get  to select a version to force there are only 2 options available = 4.0.511-2 (now) and 4.0.472-1(update.eeepc.asus.com).

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#21 2009-11-03 10:15:51 am

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Re: simpleui.rc question

Try 4.0.472-1 first to see if this can solve your problem. If not, you may need to temporary enable the p701 repository.


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