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#176 2007-12-26 8:21:35 am

Neil
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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

resulted in briking the eeePc.

Your EEE is totally inoperable?!

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#177 2007-12-26 8:30:54 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

no, but had to use the restore DVD, so brked was the wrong expreesion.

fr

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#178 2007-12-26 9:43:17 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Researched tune2fs and reported on disk state.  All configured correctly, and working as expected.

Notes:
When I went to do the last edit to the grub, it had reverted to the original line. Possibly my mistake somewhere in terms of inappropriate boots in the middle of the process.  I had to edit the whole file back to reflect nounionfs_ext3

The best it for me was when I went to merge the partitions and found the size identical to that descried in the wiki - very reasuring.

For reference this successful process was undertaken with a F9 restored machine following wiki to the letter step by step

Thanks to all who have worked to develop this resource.

HC

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#179 2007-12-26 11:04:04 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

HowardC wrote:

Notes:
When I went to do the last edit to the grub, it had reverted to the original line. Possibly my mistake somewhere in terms of inappropriate boots in the middle of the process.  I had to edit the whole file back to reflect nounionfs_ext3


HC

I had the same expirience with Grub (reverted to the original). I think the wiki is unclear in this. It implies you can do the changes in the 'normal' mode. I had to do this is the 'rescue' mode

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#180 2007-12-26 1:31:36 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Feel free to update the wiki to clarify things that are unclear.
I've written down all steps as I performed them, but it might be that I took things for granted which are probably not for others, as I have a fair amount of unix knowledge.

The only issues where it can go wrong is if you boot from your old ramfs image, not from the new one, then do the merge. (e.g. if you did not change the grub line, or did not copy properly etc).

I've found that sometimes changes will be dangling in internal buffers. That is why I recommend to explicitly umount and wait at least 30 seconds!


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#181 2007-12-26 2:37:41 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

After you removed the unionfs you can edit the grub menu.lst file during a normal boot. No need to go to rescue mode any more!
However make sure you are really running without unionfs, otherwise you are editing the shadow copy on /dev/sda2.

Also to simplify things, I've made precooked image files available on www.eeepc.speedlinq.nl
I have updated the wiki accordingly.


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#182 2007-12-26 3:23:06 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

eFfeM wrote:

Feel free to update the wiki to clarify things that are unclear.
I've written down all steps as I performed them, but it might be that I took things for granted which are probably not for others, as I have a fair amount of unix knowledge.

Many thanks to the people who have contributed to this thread. I've tried to collect all this wisdom together into a single shell script, so all you need to do now is:

* Install Puppy Linux on a USB stick - flash Puppy
* Boot your eee using your flash Puppy
* Download the eeepc.sh script onto your eee and run it from the console, like this:

Code:

$ wget http://www.mealldubh.org/wp-content/stuff/eeepc.sh
$ chmod u+x eeepc.sh
$ bash eeepc.sh

This should do everything - copy over all your user settings and data, convert to ext3, etc. etc. However, use it at your own risk - don't run it if you can't restore your factory image from DVD etc., and please back up any important stuff off-line.

Suggestions for improvement welcomed!

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#183 2007-12-26 4:05:56 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

@jpmcc: that is cool
I suggest making a similar script for the eeeXubuntu live cd. The commands should be identical, but it might be that the drive names differ (e.g. /dev/hda1 vs /dev/sda1)


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#184 2007-12-26 8:18:26 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Many many thanks jpmcc for the shell script. Just used it and can confirm it worked !

Had to download the script first to a usb stick because network was not recognised in Puppy linux.

Is it possible to update the wiki ?

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#185 2007-12-27 4:29:35 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

fmma wrote:

Is it possible to update the wiki ?

I've failed miserably to get registered as a wiki author sad

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#186 2007-12-30 3:39:50 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

I made new nounionfs initramfs images available. The difference between these and the previous ones is that there are entries in /dev for sdb, sdb1, sdb2, sdb3, sdb4, sdc, sdc1, sdc2, sdc3, sdc4 and that there is an additional boot parameter called SLEEP. This one takes an integer value. If used it will result in a sleep of the specified number of seconds. This is useful if you want to boot the 2GB kernel from USB or SD. They can be downloaded from www.eeepc.speedlinq.nl

Enjoy! FM


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#187 2008-01-14 12:37:30 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

I am new to linux, so I am not if this is possible. Is there away to remove the unionfs and at the same time make an sdhc card act as a partition? or is there a way to do that after? I would like to write applications, etc. onto a sdhc, nd rarely use the stock ssd. Any help would be appreciated.

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#188 2008-01-14 5:15:15 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

very nice guys...used jpmcc's script through puppy linux....worked like a charm! Thank you.

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#189 2008-01-15 5:45:39 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

evilgenius wrote:

very nice guys...used jpmcc's script through puppy linux....worked like a charm! Thank you.

Just wondering which release of Pupplu Linux you used? There's loads on ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/

Thanks.

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#190 2008-01-15 5:46:23 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

evilgenius wrote:

I am new to linux, so I am not if this is possible. Is there away to remove the unionfs and at the same time make an sdhc card act as a partition? or is there a way to do that after? I would like to write applications, etc. onto a sdhc, nd rarely use the stock ssd. Any help would be appreciated.

If you remove unionfs then after that it should be possible to modify things to mount your sd card to /home.
I guess I would just leave the card in permanently and create a symlink from /home or /home/user to your SD card.


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#191 2008-01-15 9:47:34 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

TerryT wrote:

evilgenius wrote:

very nice guys...used jpmcc's script through puppy linux....worked like a charm! Thank you.

Just wondering which release of Pupplu Linux you used? There's loads on ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/

Thanks.

any of the puppy linux versions should work. I believe I used 3.00 Seamonkey off the main ftp. I burned the image to a cd. Booted it on my desktop and created the usb flash boot. Very very simple. Thanks again JPMCC

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#192 2008-02-21 2:59:23 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

jpmcc wrote:

This should do everything - copy over all your user settings and data, convert to ext3, etc. etc. However, use it at your own risk - don't run it if you can't restore your factory image from DVD etc., and please back up any important stuff off-line.

Suggestions for improvement welcomed!

Hi, I tried the script, but I got nasty errors at the end & the result was a bricked Eeepc.  I think the problem is that the script copies over files into the mounted SSD drive as part of the process, but if the drive is nearly full (which it was in my case), then it falls over???  Anyway, I saved the error messages to my externally mounted usb hard drive.

At the moment, I'm restoring (via puppy linux ) a full backup I made a couple of weeks ago [via http://wiki.eeeuser.com/backup_restore instructions], so I should be up & running soon. 

It might be an idea to mod the script so that line 65:

work_dir=`mktemp -d`

...can somehow optionally mount any external hard drive instead of saving stuff to the SSD???

Note: I've no idea if the above is the cause of the failure, just my observations.  I'll pastebin the error messages I got when I get the chance later today.

Cheers,

Dez.


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#193 2008-02-21 3:37:08 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

zedkatuf: thanks, the error messages would be helpful.

John

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#194 2008-02-21 9:23:39 am

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

jpmcc wrote:

zedkatuf: thanks, the error messages would be helpful.

John

http://pastebin.ca/912601

...it was only a partial copy/paste of the errors because I couldn't drag the mouse up & copy more than a screenful in one go.

As I mention in the pastebin comments, the /mnt-system partition became full pretty soon after the script started - probably because I had alot of stuff on the partition in the first place.

Cheers,

Dez.


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Xandros Desktop Easy Mode
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#195 2008-02-21 2:29:44 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Your diagnosis was correct - you just had too much stuff on your disk for the script to run. I could add tests in the script for that condition, but there's not much it could sensibly do other than abort.

Unfortunately my Eee is now my main PC, so I'm not too keen to trash it for a few days while I modify and test the script. I'm sure my backups would work, but I'd still prefer not to have to test them out :-)

Maybe I need to buy another Eee just for playing. Seen any going cheaap on eBay recently?

John

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#196 2008-02-21 3:02:34 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

smile  re cheap EeePC's - shouldn't be long now, what with all the competition mushrooming up smile

I suppose I could hack your script to create the temporary directory onto my USB hard drive - I'd just have to 'hard-wire' the code to point  to the correct path, and that should do the trick I guess.

I successfully restored my EeePC using the wiki method, so I'm back with unionfs for the moment.

I was  amazed by the amount of space released, so am keen to give it another try soon tongue

Cheers,

Dez.


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Xandros Desktop Easy Mode
16GB SDHC Transcend card
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#197 2008-02-21 3:12:23 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Why not:

* move your /home/user files to your external drive
* delete them from your Eee to free up space
* get rid of unionfs
* copy the /home/user files back from the external drive?

John

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#198 2008-02-21 5:24:39 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Other options to back up or restore
http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/

I have been using it for years on my desktop and laptop, and now with the eeepc, I did use it already to restore my eeepc when I was messing around with it and trashed something.  I can't leave anything alone so this live cloning cd has allowed me to do that.


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#199 2008-02-21 5:53:59 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

jpmcc wrote:

Why not:

* move your /home/user files to your external drive
* delete them from your Eee to free up space
* get rid of unionfs
* copy the /home/user files back from the external drive?

John

Yes - that's def sthng I'd been thinking about - I'd have to copy over /opt & some other mods I've made though in various places, so already decided that that was probably too fiddly: I do like your solution, if I can get it to work for my setup.

I might try it in a bit & report back here smile


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#200 2008-06-22 5:39:33 pm

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Re: TUTORIAL - how to remove (default) applications

Thanx Gadgetguy, Kibobo and others.

I red the whole tutorial, drank lots of thee big_smile, but after several hours succeeded in removing the unionFS filesystem from my EeePC.

The FaunOS-usb-stick worked fine as well.

Ciao,
Swangdoodles

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