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mleko wrote:
hmm
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/eee_pc_701
isn`t 900mhz "native" speed for this cpu ?
Hmm.. new members
haha
If you read the wiki, Asus underclock it to 630 mhz, only 8804 bios can go up to 900mhz, but it has wavy lines on the screen
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Power input (battery/PSU) has nothing to do with "overclocking" the Eee, for some reason my Eee cannot run faster than 750mhz, at 787mhz it crashes after a few minutes and trying to set it to 800 or higher results in an instant crash, the screen blanks and it either it reboots or freezes.
If they put a 900mhz CPU in these things, why are they running them at 630mhz? did they buy reject processors?
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Haku wrote:
Power input (battery/PSU) has nothing to do with "overclocking" the Eee, for some reason my Eee cannot run faster than 750mhz, at 787mhz it crashes after a few minutes and trying to set it to 800 or higher results in an instant crash, the screen blanks and it either it reboots or freezes.
If they put a 900mhz CPU in these things, why are they running them at 630mhz? did they buy reject processors?
my guess is they valued battery life over speed and thats the reason why. i don't mind much actually. the extra horsepower is only really needed if you're playing games or if you're using photoshop or something. for what the eeepc is made for, the speed is fine.
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I'll start by saying that I'm a software weenie - not a hardware guy.
So, I tried SetFSB and tried to jump in two jumps to 400. First jump, to 340, basically caused the screen to go bonkers. Tried again. Still didn't work. Tried smaller jump - to 320. That didn't work. Tried 300. Worked! Then 320. Worked. Etc. The only way for me to get to 400 (and beyond for that matter), is in jumps of 20 (maybe 30 would work as well but 40 didn't).
So for those still having trouble, you might try *even* smaller jumps.
arn
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this guide works on my asus eee with winXP pro
bios is 4401, i did the gradual increase to 900mhz and still ok, no crash, screen looks good, no hang on orthos for 1hr
now playing divx for 2hrs while transfering 500mb files via WIFI, still ok for now
btw, my unit is black with webcam, serial 7B, no miniPCIE and still with orig 512MB memory
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revogsx wrote:
this guide works on my asus eee with winXP pro
bios is 4401, i did the gradual increase to 900mhz and still ok, no crash, screen looks good, no hang on orthos for 1hr
now playing divx for 2hrs while transfering 500mb files via WIFI, still ok for now
btw, my unit is black with webcam, serial 7B, no miniPCIE and still with orig 512MB memory
Thats the same as my unit and I have no problem clocking it to 900Mhz, it sometime crashes if I go straight there but as most people seem to find a brief at stop a 85Mhz, then too 100Mhz works fine every time. I do have a 2Gb PC2 6400 Sodimm in there but it should'nt make a difference.
I did find it a bit flaky with the latest version of SetFSB though (2.18 I think), 2.17 (follow the link in the original post). Also make sure the Ultra box IS NOT checked and your other setting are as defined previously.
Last edited by B0wler (2007-12-09 3:40:54 pm)
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Can somebody please post some batch files for switching the FSB's? Might be an easier intro for people to use the command line params rather than fiddling with the slider.
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JeePea wrote:
This is a message for those who are interested in underclocking their E3's. I had asked a question about this and I have seen at least on other message with this request.
Walltiger was nice enough to respond to my question about this with a technique he uses to underclock. First off, I want to give the same caveat that goes along with any advice about this kind of hacking with the FSB. This is the method that worked for me (and Walltiger), but it may not work for you. Use at your own risk.
The key to underclocking further than FSB will allow by default, is to go to the Customize menu. (You must retrieve the current settings first.) Down in the right hand corner is a setting called PLL M. The default on mine was 24. Change this to 31. You will see that the slider that changes the FSB now has more room to the left. Use this to further underclock the E3.
Some things to consider: At the lowest setting, your E3 may be unstable. I found that 500mhz was a nice compromise for me. Also, just like increasing the FSB, reducing it should be done in increments or it will freeze. I found that increments of 100mhz seems to work for me. I set up short-cuts for 500, 600, 700 and 800mhz. By moving in these incremements, I haven't had any problems. I also put a shortcut for 500mhz in my start menu as I'm most interested in battery life.
Good Luck
JeePea
Hey how do you set PLL M using command line?
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Nvm, it remembers by itself. Thanks!
Last edited by Hahutzy (2007-12-09 6:28:57 pm)
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I hope the future SetFSB supports EEE directly... I guess there are some incompatibilities with this PLC - too many freezes. ![]()
Well, @900MHz this is quite fast machine... even plays 720p DivX ![]()
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Here's what I did:
0) You need to run setfsb once and select the clock generator
1) I unzipped setfsb to C:\foo
2) I read the help file setfsb.txt
3) I made a shortcut to setfsb.exe by right clicking on it and clicking "Create Shortcut"
4) I renamed the shortcut speed_900
5) I opened the properties of speed_900 (right click) and added options to the Target (next line)
C:\foo\setfsb.exe -w1 -i40 -s399
6) click ok
The options increase the speed in 40MHz increments (i40) with a one second delay (w1) up to an almost 900 Mhz cpu speed(s399). (The "-i40" option actually increases the bus speed by 10MHz, the ram speed by 40MHz and the cpu speed by 90MHz increments.)
I also have a speed_800 setup as
C:\foo\setfsb.exe -w1 -i40 -s355
and a speed_633.
This works for me. It might brick your eee pc.
Last edited by cantstop (2007-12-26 9:16:08 am)
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Has anyone overclocked passed 900 Mhz?
Got mine to 957 Mhz. Passed that, it crashes.
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link2057 wrote:
Has anyone overclocked passed 900 Mhz?
Got mine to 957 Mhz. Passed that, it crashes.
Nice. ![]()
When I get mine, I'm going to aim for 1GHz. ![]()
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Here's some results with my new ASUS Eee 702/8G (Pearl White):
BIOS 0201 - Build Date: 11/14/2007
Maximum Stable OC: 994.7 MHz
Bus Speed @ 994.7 MHz: 110.5 MHz
Rated FSB @ 994.7 MHz: 442.1 MHz
3DMark 2001SE Scores
- 800x600x32: 3109
- 800x480x16: 3176
And here are the accompanying screenshots:




Cheers,
Kermee
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some of you have good chips. mine wont even get to 850. i tried 832 today and it works fine so far. 850 hard locks my comp soon as i start an N64 rom. ![]()
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I really think the OC is dependant on ram speed, since everyone who is using the stock ram is using a peice rated for 667mhz when you clock to 900 it pushes it to 800. This means that unless theres a fsb divider enabled thats going to crash some of the EEE's which have ram that just can't reach that speed. I can get upto 400mhz fsb with my 2gig stick (rated at 667 also but apparently can handle the stress of a few more mhz), also this is in one single jump from 630 to 900.
However these results are not the same when I put a different 1gig ram chip that is also rated at 667 but just can't handle 800, It just crashes before i hit 800Mhz, and with my stock stick it would hit 900mhz sometimes and crash the other times.
This leads me to believe that for now since we don't have control for a fsb divider you'll need to get a 800mhz ram chip or try your luck with other 667s and see if you can push it.
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mine works at 995MHz too ...
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fazz33 wrote:
I really think the OC is dependant on ram speed, since everyone who is using the stock ram is using a peice rated for 667mhz when you clock to 900 it pushes it to 800. This means that unless theres a fsb divider enabled thats going to crash some of the EEE's which have ram that just can't reach that speed. I can get upto 400mhz fsb with my 2gig stick (rated at 667 also but apparently can handle the stress of a few more mhz), also this is in one single jump from 630 to 900.
However these results are not the same when I put a different 1gig ram chip that is also rated at 667 but just can't handle 800, It just crashes before i hit 800Mhz, and with my stock stick it would hit 900mhz sometimes and crash the other times.
This leads me to believe that for now since we don't have control for a fsb divider you'll need to get a 800mhz ram chip or try your luck with other 667s and see if you can push it.
I don't understand. If the FSB is 100MHz when the CPU is at 900MHz, wouldn't DDR run at 200MHz? What divider are these things using?
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.:Cyb3rGlitch:. wrote:
I don't understand. If the FSB is 100MHz when the CPU is at 900MHz, wouldn't DDR run at 200MHz? What divider are these things using?
From a recent discussion with Rroff I believe the DDR bus speed is 200 MHz (2:1) and so the DDR2 is running at 400 Mhz (100 MHz for the internal memory cells).
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If you want to read up more on ddr2 check out this wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_RAM
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Take your FSB/Bus speed frequency, multiply by four, Tadaa your DDR2 Memory Clock.
i.e. 900 Mhz overclocked = 100Mhz x 9 Multiplier
DDR2 Clock speed = 100Mhz x 4 Multiplier = 400 Mhz
edit: Hope this answers the question on the memory clock of the ram to purchase for those looking to upgrade. The answer is: it doesn't really matter; go for whatever is cheapest since they are backwards compatible (frequency ratings are the max SAFE frequency which data can be propogated without glitches, data overwrite, or indeterminate values) hence if it can run safely at 667Mhz it sure can run without errors at 400Mhz.
Anyways, the max overclock on these forums is under 1Ghz, so assuming that is the max 1000/9 *4 = 444.4 Mhz. So basically anything higher than that would be sufficient (533Mhz, 667, 800..). Even the 400Mhz DDR2 is sufficient if you're only looking for 900 Mhz overclock.
That being said, purchasing higher speed rated memory would be more beneficial in being future proof.
Last edited by eyies (2007-12-12 1:03:04 pm)
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Well, I'm jealous. I can't get my Eee to clock very high before it blue-screens...I tried as small as 5Mhz steps, and the highest I can get to is 340...crashes everytime setting to anything above that.
4G Black 7B with 2GB ram. I ran the 8804 for a week and never had any performance issues but I did get a bit of video distortion (shimmering / small diagonal lines appear and disappear - looks like a bad refresh rate).
I was hoping I could have a clear display and the option to run at full speed when needed.
Last edited by ChrisFix (2007-12-12 3:33:19 pm)
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eyies you've got that wrong
Heres the way the numbers roll
lets say you have DDR2 667
essentially this means the IO bus is 333 and the ram is at 166, but since there are 2 channels for the ram its effectively 333 meaning that DDR2 667 has a max speed of 333, not 667
667 actually refers to the rate data is moved at, since its improved from ddr the data rate at similar speeds is doubled however this is not without sacrafice, but I wount get into that.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?i … direct=yes
here is a better article that explains it...
so yes ram speed does matter.
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I just used SPDTool to set timings on the RAM to CL4 rather than CL3 - which works - but I'm still unable to get above 969MHz - so I don't think the RAM is holding back the overclock - I was wondering if it was failing coz the RAM was well over 400MHz and still on CL3 but it doesn't seem to be whats holding it back.
If anyone is interested - I benchmarked CL4 and CL3 at the stock frequency and saw a 7% difference in bandwidth - which also probably indicates the CPU isn't holding the memory back - which means if we _could_ get the RAM running faster than the FSB with a different divider we could potentially get quite a decent boost in gaming performance.
Last edited by Rroff (2007-12-12 7:43:15 pm)
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so following the instructions in this thread for making shortcuts to SetFSB for different speeds I made a few of my own using the speeds i've tested to be stable and that wont crash. i'd love to be able set my FSB even lower for even better battery power but 591MHz is ok for now. anyway, here is a screenshot of what i've done...
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n3rdk1d wrote:
so following the instructions in this thread for making shortcuts to SetFSB for different speeds I made a few of my own using the speeds i've tested to be stable and that wont crash. i'd love to be able set my FSB even lower for even better battery power but 591MHz is ok for now. anyway, here is a screenshot of what i've done...
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3760/633636cm0.jpg
Very nice! Impressive!
Cheers,
Kermee
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