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#1 2008-12-07 11:06:17 pm

Vinhtvu2
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From: Georgia
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1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Hey guys... I didn't like the way my wifi was working... very shady and weak signal... so I upgraded the card and installed a detachable antenna... so far it's a BIG improvement.
Mainly the card... haven't really tested the signal the antenna is improving yet... but I will tomorrow.

Ofcourse I took lots of pictures to share :-)

First one, this is the wifi card I used... it's a Atheros 5008 ABGN chipset... it's great because it supports injection... I'm sticking with Atheros chips...
I bought the card from this user on ebay, shipping was SUPER fast! and it was cheap....
http://stores.ebay.com/Oldegg-Wireless- … %26otn%3D4

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GXNwGHp35Ys/STyXKiA5fcI/AAAAAAAABbQ/3tPPCh40n_w/s400/PICT8517%20%28Medium%29.JPE
I also got a pigtail from him and a white antenna which match the Eee very nicely.
If you plan on doing this mod, buy a pigtail that's LONGER than 4 inches!
The one I got was 4 inches and it was SUPER short... barely  made it... no slack.
The card also come with 3 internal antenna, but I am not installing those yet as the signal is GREAT already... if I find some free time... I might install two of them in the LCD bezel and see if they are better than the stock one... I'm pretty  sure they're about the same.
Here's the antenna and the pigtail:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_GXNwGHp35Ys/STyXLazq23I/AAAAAAAABbY/oxdYely9d20/s400/PICT8518%20%28Medium%29.JPE

Here's where I installed it... I was gonna put it in the back on the side of the battery... but that looks like too much to drill through, so I just removed the Kensington lock  thing and widen the hole and put it there...
Do it SLOW or else you'll crack it like me... I cracked the top part... but once it's all together, you cant really tell.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GXNwGHp35Ys/STyXND_G5HI/AAAAAAAABbw/8qascCCizD0/s400/PICT8526%20%28Medium%29.JPE

Final picture, the finished product:
My friends says it look like it was built into the laptop... cant even tell it wasn't meant to be there. Also, the white antenna matches the laptop pretty well.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_GXNwGHp35Ys/STyXOBuO1RI/AAAAAAAABcI/czfs5EJPPHE/s400/PICT8531%20%28Medium%29.JPE


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#2 2008-12-08 4:28:51 am

doctorow
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Nifty! Any before - after comparisons?

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#3 2008-12-08 5:16:35 am

Vinhtvu2
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Haven't done a full before and after test yet... but so far the signal improvement with the Antenna in has been noticeable.

Without the antenna, using the Atheros Wifi Management with the new 5008 card, I get about 55db, 100% signal about 10 feet from the router.
With the antenna, it goes up to 63-65db, still 100% signal...

I'm gonna swap it back to the old card tomorrow and see how much difference it is.

Also, I'm going to test it with a BCM4311, BCM4318, Atheros 5007EG, and the Azureware AGN card that comes in the 901...
Those cards only have 2 antenna feed, so I'll try it with the external, and one internal and see the signal.

I'm liking it so far... the antenna looks awesome, and most people cant tell it's not stock!


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
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#4 2008-12-08 8:57:42 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Awsome mod big_smile

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#5 2008-12-09 3:42:38 pm

Vinhtvu2
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

So i tested the old 5007EG and the 5008 card last night... the signal difference is pretty clear.
I get 70+ db with the 5008, and about mid 50 with the 5007EG card...

With the 5007EG hooked up to the external antenna, I get about 57db...

With the 5008 w/o external antenna, I get 61db, with the external, it gets to about 70+... pretty sweet!

Also succesfully cracked my 128bit wep key in about 2 minutes!
the 5008 capture and injects perfect. 500+ bits/s!!!!
The 5007 is not bad at that either though... around 480...


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#6 2008-12-09 3:54:57 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

is that antenna a 2dbi whip? also do you have one internal antenna connected with the external?

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#7 2008-12-09 4:50:57 pm

Vinhtvu2
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

carbinefreak wrote:

is that antenna a 2dbi whip? also do you have one internal antenna connected with the external?

It is a 2dbi antenna... I didn't want a giant 7dbi one hanging from the side of a tiny laptop... so I opted for a small one... it is plenty though.

The 5008 card actually have 3 antenna connection... so two internal and one external is how I'm doing it.
The card came with three internal antenna that looks a LOT better than the stock one in the Eee... so I think I'll add two of them in behind the LCD screen, and solder the stock antenna to my bluetooth chip.


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#8 2008-12-23 4:44:50 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Vinhtvu2 wrote:

carbinefreak wrote:

is that antenna a 2dbi whip? also do you have one internal antenna connected with the external?

It is a 2dbi antenna... I didn't want a giant 7dbi one hanging from the side of a tiny laptop... so I opted for a small one... it is plenty though.

The 5008 card actually have 3 antenna connection... so two internal and one external is how I'm doing it.
The card came with three internal antenna that looks a LOT better than the stock one in the Eee... so I think I'll add two of them in behind the LCD screen, and solder the stock antenna to my bluetooth chip.

Any improvement with the other antennas's? curious as i was wanting to improve  the range and thought that i might get those too along with the external antenna if it they helped.

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#9 2008-12-24 2:13:48 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

I thought only one antenna was used anyway?

The device automatically selects the one with the best signal strength and uses it. At least thats what routers with two antennas do.

edit: of course you could always connect one or two internal antennas justt in case you don't want to screw on the external one. As said it should be recognized automatically.

Last edited by AlphaCentauri (2008-12-24 3:56:22 am)


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#10 2009-01-05 9:08:49 am

waihung
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Registered: 2008-09-16
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

u need a bigger antenna to make it look geeky.


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#11 2009-01-05 11:26:00 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

waihung wrote:

u need a bigger antenna to make it look geeky.

... and a racoon tail tied to it !!! ...

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#12 2009-01-06 6:00:45 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Go for a decent 12db omni, its >50cm  in length. And yeah get a foxtail too!  lol

big_smile and why not add flame design airbrush?

Last edited by AlphaCentauri (2009-01-06 6:02:03 am)


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#13 2009-01-06 3:45:05 pm

Vinhtvu2
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From: Georgia
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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Haha, already got a 7db  whip on the way.... it's the biggest thing I can find that looks decent............

Also waiting for my Ubuntu emblem :-)


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#14 2009-01-08 12:47:30 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Is there any way to get a female pigtail installed and then just use a male-to-male adapter for the antenna?

I wouldn't mind installing a mod like this, but I don't want a male antenna adapter sticking out of my Eee.

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#15 2009-01-08 3:29:37 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

It's not THAT big... plus it looks cool when you screw it in... people are like... wtf!?
I chose to install it there where it's a little more noticeable... but if you would like, you can actually drill a BIG hole in the back of the Eee... then put a male connector in there...
The hole has to be actually bigger than the connector... and it can recess enough where you wont even see it. Because most antenna are designed to bend and about 1 inch length at 90 degree, you can actually plug it into the hole and screw it in, then it wont even be noticable.
If I wasn't rushing the job and trying to get it done and think it through, that's what I would've done....

But I like the antenna on the side of the Eee like I have it now though.... it looks ultra-geeky.......


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#16 2009-01-08 1:17:41 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Vinhtvu2 wrote:

It's not THAT big... plus it looks cool when you screw it in... people are like... wtf!?
I chose to install it there where it's a little more noticeable... but if you would like, you can actually drill a BIG hole in the back of the Eee... then put a male connector in there...
The hole has to be actually bigger than the connector... and it can recess enough where you wont even see it. Because most antenna are designed to bend and about 1 inch length at 90 degree, you can actually plug it into the hole and screw it in, then it wont even be noticable.
If I wasn't rushing the job and trying to get it done and think it through, that's what I would've done....

But I like the antenna on the side of the Eee like I have it now though.... it looks ultra-geeky.......

So is the answer to my question no? And if so, why not? Do they not make male-male and female-female adapters?

One could run it like this:

|
| <--antenna
|
L---|---|---|------------[wireless card]
.......^...^....^
.......1....2.....3


1. male-male adapter EXTERNAL
2. female-female adapter INTERNAL
3. male pigtail INTERNAL

The male pigtail would go into the adapter that is female on both sides, which would be recessed in the kensington lock. Then one would screw an adapter that is male on both sides into the female end of the antenna, and into the female adapter you have recessed into the 900HA.

It sure would be easier if they just made the pigtails female and the antennas male, though (and seem to make much more sense).

Last edited by Ex (2009-01-08 1:22:55 pm)

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#17 2009-01-08 4:54:37 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

There wouldn't be enough room......... Unless you can get a pigtail to femail..... which I'm pretty sure they dont make.... then you'll have to get a male antenna.......
or leave the male to male adapter on the antenna... cuz thehre was BARELY enough room to squeeze the adapter out..... maybe there are smaller one, but the one I got sit a little tight under the motherboard already... and the female adapter is always bigger than the male..............


Eee 702 8G-XP nLite with bluetooth, 4g microSD, 4g SDHC extreme III, and 4g USB w/ Xandros
Eee 701 4G-XP nLite SP2 with Touchscreen, bluetooth, and 4 gig SDHC
Eee 901 4G-Xp nlite SP3 with touchscreen, 80gig hard drive, and wifi upgrade
1000HA- bluetooth module, tons of mods on the way... STILL LOOKING FOR 7xx black touchpad!

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#18 2009-01-08 8:36:23 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Vinhtvu2 wrote:

There wouldn't be enough room......... Unless you can get a pigtail to femail..... which I'm pretty sure they dont make.... then you'll have to get a male antenna.......
or leave the male to male adapter on the antenna... cuz thehre was BARELY enough room to squeeze the adapter out..... maybe there are smaller one, but the one I got sit a little tight under the motherboard already... and the female adapter is always bigger than the male..............

You're right, there's not enough room.

I suppose if you're going to carry around an external antenna, you might as well just plug it into the USB slot.

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#19 2009-01-08 9:17:52 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Are you suppose to use the wireless without all three antennas hooked up? Won't it hurt the wireless card if you don't?
And secondly, Is it a 5008 or an AR5008, or are they the same.. lol. I am going to order one next week(along with a new eeepc) =]

-Thoatt

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#20 2009-01-08 9:53:53 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Vinhtvu2 wrote:

Without the antenna, using the Atheros Wifi Management with the new 5008 card, I get about 55db, 100% signal about 10 feet from the router.
With the antenna, it goes up to 63-65db, still 100% signal

I'm not familiar with the software you are using to show the signal, but USUALLY the signal value is such that the LOWER the value the stronger the signal received.  Technically, it's not "lower", since these are negative values, so -55dBm is a (much) stronger signal than -65dBm, but ... here, take a look at this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm

These are VERY low power levels, otherwise, you'd fry your brain walking around these things, you know.


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#21 2009-01-08 10:08:44 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

40th Floor wrote:

I'm not familiar with the software you are using to show the signal, but USUALLY the signal value is such that the LOWER the value the stronger the signal received.

I'm pretty sure you are completely mistaken.

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#22 2009-01-08 10:14:33 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Ex wrote:

I'm pretty sure you are completely mistaken.

Look for yourself

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm

P.S.  As I wrote, these are not "lower" actually, since they are negative values, and lower negative (closer to 0) is greater than larger negative (farther from 0).  At least, it used to be that way back in 3rd grade.  Has it changed since 1933?

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#23 2009-01-08 10:25:20 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

Closer to zero, the stronger the signal.. on about 90% of wireless apps... Unless it automatically converts it to % of 100.

(if you were in 3rd grade in 1933, you're like.... old...   =]   )

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#24 2009-01-09 5:35:40 am

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

@Ex: Do your math!! wink

For positive numbers the further away from zero the larger their value.
For negative numbers the further away from zero the lower their value!!

-79 is further away from zero than -55.

Hence -55dBm higher value/stronger signal than -79dBm, as pointed out above by thoatt.


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#25 2010-03-16 5:26:29 pm

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Re: 1000HA wireless upgrade and antenna mod!

mine is in between my sd card and my usb on the right side and i think its in a good place =]

i love external antenna


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