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There is a mass of info around on boot times but its quite confusing so I thought it best to ask the question again. If we got lots of results we could put together a table.
which is now at: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= … soS7P4S6Ow
I like rapid boot times (a left over from many years of palms & psions). I think the fastest boots are with a lite version of xp and the xandros that shipped with the eee - can anyone prove me wrong?
I use ubuntu 8.10 adamms std kernel on a 901 boot time measured from switch on to desktop (bpassing the login screen) is currently 42 secs. (it was originally 56 but made faster by streamlining start up services, switching of compiz, reducing grub boot delay to 1s & removing splash. I also tried openbox within gnome but no difference (but otherwise it seems faster as a windows manager over metacity which gnome normally uses - anyone using openbox without gnome? - I cant get that to work.
Id liike others to report their boot times using same measure (switch on to usable desktop) we need to know:
eee type - distro - time (s) - comments and tweaks.
901 ubuntu 8.04 42 adamms kernel - compiz & splash off
Cheers
cimh
Last edited by cimh (2008-12-20 5:49:21 pm)
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Hi Cimh,
Here is a great guide to configuring Openbox in Ubuntu: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/
You could also use an Openbox distro such as Crunchbang (if you want to do a fresh install) or install the LXDE desktop environment, which is basically a pre-configured Openbox with panels, desktop icons, etc. (On my desktkop, I prefer plain Openbox, but on the eee, it is nice to have a panel so you have somewhere to dock your wireless and powersave applets.)
OK my boot times from power on to usable desktop, all on my 900ha and including the time to type my username and password (except for XP which has auto-login), plus 1 or 2 seconds to select from grub:
XP: 0:36
Crunchbang Openbox: 1:06
Sidux LXDE: 1:03
Debian Lenny LXDE: 1:09
Last edited by snowpine (2008-12-05 1:28:08 pm)
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Here is my boot time.
- eee type
901
- distro
puppy linux 4.1.1
- time (s)
61
- comments and tweaks.
booting from a standard (non-accelerated) sandisk 1GB card in the built in card reader. I have a 512 mb puppy save file and I am loading Open Office 3.0 using a sfs file. I'm running on battery. The time above includes pressing esc at the splash screen and telling the computer to boot from the card reader.
I have puppy linux on an accelerated 2 GB card on a 900 at home and will post those results later.
Ron.
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Please add to
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/overview.html
Be sure to include the model tseries (700, 900, 1000, etc).
Sheng-Chieh
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Vejur79
Thanks I found puppy 4.1 on a stick was fast it will be interesting to see if how much faster the boot time is on an install to the main drives. Great distro but I was a bit disappointed by the size of the repos
Sheng-chieh
Those large wiki tables are nasty to edit so for now I'll build a spreadsheet of these times at:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= … soS7P4S6Ow
Feel free to visit. I'll update it using posts to this thread
Cimh
901 ubuntu 8.04
Last edited by cimh (2008-12-06 1:16:00 am)
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eee type
900 (16GB version [MLC SSD])
distro
Debian (Installed using info from Debianeeepc wiki)
Time(s) (from power on to desktop)
34seconds (Slim login manager and fluxbox)
comments and tweaks
Kernel: 2.6.28-rc6, Reduced boot times with the help of the Boot part on the Debianeeepc wiki and reducing the amount of kernel modules that I dont have any need for.
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701: Debian lenny 2.6.26 eee version with LXDE = 40-45 seconds depending on whether I remember to hit enter at the grub prompt or wait for it to time out.
Breeezy from a USB stick is also about 45 seconds.
Ubuntu tended to be about 90 seconds, with gnome.
Last edited by kerpob (2008-12-06 4:56:55 am)
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702 (8G): Debian Lenny + LXDE
bootchar: 13 s
from power on to desktop: 20-25 s
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Amoyse
Great to see responses coming in Debian is looking good - I assume you guys have tried different windows managers and have found LDXE the best? You are tempting me to give this a run.
20-25 is fast what tweaking have you done to achieve this?
Cimh
901 ubuntu 8.04
Last edited by cimh (2008-12-06 12:20:58 pm)
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amoyse wrote:
702 (8G): Debian Lenny + LXDE
bootchar: 13 s
from power on to desktop: 20-25 s
Bootchart says 13 seconds and from power on to desktop in 20-25 secs. Sounds a bit strange to me as my bootchart says 10 seconds and still it takes 34 seconds (with login) til i'm in my fluxbox environment.
Would really love to know if you have done something special to speed it up.
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I'm of the opinion that people tend to ignore this kind of thing if they have to go any further than the forum. I know I certainly do 
, so I've copied the info from the spreadsheet (approximately) into an ASCII table, below. I'll time my own when I'm in the office on Monday.
For reference, anyone remember how long an average boot on Xandros took?
User Model Distro Times to... Comments
bootchart login desktop (autologin)
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cimh 901 Ubuntu 8.04 38 42-47 adamms kernel splash and compiz off
vejur79 901 Puppy 4.1.1 61 boot from std 1G sd card, pressing esc and selecting sd card.
ehnvis 900 Debian Lenny fluxbox 34 Kernel: 2.6.28-rc6, Reduced boot times see Debianeeepc wiki and removing
unused kernel modules. slim login manager
Snowpipe 900ha XP 36
900ha Sidux LDXE 63 includes entering usrname and pwd
900ha Crunchbang openbox 66 includes entering usrname and pwd
900ha Debian Lenny LDXE 69 includes entering usrname and pwd
Amoyse 702(8G) Debian lenny LDXE 20-25
kerpob 701 Debian Lenny 2.6.26 LDXE 40
701 Breezy 45 on a stick
701 Ubuntu ~90Offline
@cimh, great thread! i've started looking at my boot times - and ya' re right, its difficult to compare..
i'm running ubuntu 8.04+adamms+eee-control + netbook remix, no compiz, no splash
and i am getting 1:20 on my 901.
I also ran puppy 4.1.1 with xfce on frugal install - result was about 60s.
@amoyse, please share your step-by-step - would love to give it a go..
my next step is to maybe have a go at xepc for 901. its boot time still seems one of the best and might still be able to get all the apps that i need..
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JellyKing wrote:
I'm of the opinion that people tend to ignore this kind of thing if they have to go any further than the forum. I know I certainly do
That looks neat but not sure how I can easily edit and add to it. So I will maintain the spreadsheet for now until we have this sorted.
Thanks CIMH
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JellyKing wrote:
For reference, anyone remember how long an average boot on Xandros took?
I'm using a little tweaked Xandros on EEE900... It boots from power in 16 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_QhihKvfOM
The little tweaks:
- Removed aufs
- Use Xfce-Desktop and Xfce-panel
I think standard Xandros take aprox 25 sec to boot...
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zimo wrote:
I'm using a little tweaked Xandros on EEE900... It boots from power in 16 sec
Stunned!!
cimh
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ehnvis wrote:
Debian (Installed using info from Debianeeepc wiki)
Time(s) (from power on to desktop). 34seconds (Slim login manager and fluxbox)
Kernel: 2.6.28-rc6, Reduced boot times with the help of the Boot part on the Debianeeepc wiki and reducing the amount of kernel modules that I dont have any need for.
Following up on this thread. I looked at openbox on Ubuntu but it needed too much work to get it running well, so decided on a fresh install this time with debian & lxde. Very impressed with the debian wikis. (but used unetbootin - which I prefer) Boot time quite easily brought down to 42s . Great distro and a new find - wicd a great network manager which got my wifi working when the std manager couldnt. I have 2.6.26-1-686 kernel. But we are all in the slow lane compared with Zimos xandros.
I see some threads about eees boot booster, but you have to have a special partition for it. It wasnt obvious about how to set it up. Anybody (apart from Zimo, presumably) using this?
cimh
901 debian lenny lxde now.
boot times= http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= … soS7P4S6Ow
Last edited by cimh (2008-12-07 3:53:26 pm)
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Arch,
Grub to X 11 sec
Grub to openbox 15 sec,
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg10 … hart-4.png
the bootchart goes on for a min after boot has finished
Last edited by markp1989 (2008-12-07 4:30:43 pm)
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markp1989 wrote:
Arch, Grub to X 11 sec, Grub to openbox 15 sec, the bootchart goes on for a min after boot has finished
Thanks, what machine are you using? What is the time from switch on to desktop?
cimh
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cimh wrote:
markp1989 wrote:
Arch, Grub to X 11 sec, Grub to openbox 15 sec, the bootchart goes on for a min after boot has finished
Thanks, what machine are you using? What is the time from switch on to desktop?
cimh
its about 25 sec
just put up a video of my 701 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dLZrHqw2oTQ
Last edited by markp1989 (2008-12-07 6:58:22 pm)
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Then please add your link to the wiki. Easier for people to find.. Below are some wiki links. The first one is a wiki convertor to easily convert HTML pages to wiki pages.
http://diberri.dyndns.org/wikipedia/html2wiki/ (HTML::WikiConverter)
http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki%3Amanual (DokuWiki Manual)
http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki%3Adokuwiki (DokuWiki Directory)
Sheng-Chieh
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shengchieh wrote:
Then please add your link to the wiki. - Sheng-Chieh
I have done this at the bottom of the table just above instructions for editing. - I agree with the need to keep things in one place - Hope that's ok for now but the spreadsheet is just so easy to update.
Cimh
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Wow. 16s? What are "aufs" anyway? I might just slap in an ASCII table copied from the spreadsheet from time to time. I think for those of us genuinely interested the spreadsheet is more effective, but people passing by might not be bothered with another link. (I wouldn't be. I'm a lazy browser. 
)
Staying on topic, I timed my own system: 60s from power button to desktop (autologin). I'm using Xubuntu 8.10 on a 1000 with adamm's kernel and (a now old version of) elmurato's ACPI scripts.
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cimh wrote:
I see some threads about eees boot booster, but you have to have a special partition for it. It wasnt obvious about how to set it up. Anybody (apart from Zimo, presumably) using this?
In my case boot booster gives me a 2 sec gain... It's not a great improvement, but well, 2 sec are 2 sec... 
here are a explanation of boot booster partition:
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=25178&p=1
JellyKing wrote:
What are "aufs" anyway?
Aufs is the ugly filesystem that comes with original Xandros on EEE900 (like old unionFS)... I changed it for ext3...!
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zimo wrote:
In my case boot booster gives me a 2 sec gain...
I added the efi partition tonite (thanks for the link) yep gained 2s boot now down to 38 for debian lenny lxde. It seems to me that this gain is achieved by bypassing the bios screen. I havent actively put anything into the efi partition I would have thought I need to put boot files in there to make it work properly?
BTW JellyKing feel free to update the asci file whenever.
Cimh
901
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It's a automatic process. You don't have to copy nothing... If you not see the first bios message (and with the 2 sec gain it seems that all was ok), is working
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