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#1 2007-11-13 1:17:12 pm

Buxton
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From: Fareham, UK
Registered: 2007-11-04
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Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

I have managed to get my Eee working with my USB-plugged Nokia N95 as a modem, to use the 3G data plan I have on my mobile phone service (t-mobile UK and the Web'n'Walk Plus data plan). I can achieve connect speeds pretty much identical to what I get with Nokia PC Suite on my "Big Lappy", according to speedtest.net's benchmarks.

What follows is a guide to how I did it. I am assuming in the reader a fair amount of familiarity with using Console commands, and I've written the instructions with Full Mode in mind. (It might well be possible to achieve the same results in Easy Mode, but I haven't tried or thought about it). I don't accept any responsibility if this somehow goes wrong and damages something (or ends up costing you money somehow).

Pre-requisites:
a) You, now fairly comfortable at the linux shell prompt (these instructions contain only minimal hand-holding, and assume that you know how to make backups of files before editing them, edit files in Nano or your other editor of choice, etc.)
b) Your Eee, in Full Mode
c) Your N95 *MUST* have a proper data plan, and that data plan *MUST* allow you to use your phone for Mobile PC Broadband.

If you don't have a data plan, you will probably end up paying an extortionate amount per-megabyte - or if you DO have a data plan, but it doesn't allow this sort of use, you could face all sorts of problems with your mobile network. I'm on T-Mobile in the UK and have the "Web'n'Walk Plus" data plan - which is entirely suitable.

Here's the steps:
1) Plug your N95 in to your Eee, via USB (selecting PC Suite mode on the phone if prompted, or changing to that if you've turned off the prompt) and check that it shows up as /dev/ttyACM0

2) Make a new Dialup Connection by using the Xandros network connection tool (the network icon in the task tray in Full Mode)

3) Pick the N95 from the modem list, *99# as the phone number (it will helpfully screw this up for us, which is one reason why doing this fully automatically doesn't work), and anything you like as the username and password

4) Complete the wizard - don't auto-connect that connection on boot, and don't bother trying to connect it now

5) Edit /etc/ppp/peers/dialup1 ("sudo nano /etc/ppp/peers/dialup1") - find the bottom paragraph, which starts "modem", and edit that part of the file to read:

Code:

modem
/dev/ttyACM0
460800

(this fixes it to use the correct device as the modem, and connects the Eee to it much faster than the default)

6) Edit /etc/chatscripts/dialup1 ("sudo nano /etc/chatscripts/dialup1") so that it looks like this:

Code:

#
# This file was generated by xandrosncs tools.
#
ABORT VOICE
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
ABORT "NO DIAL TONE"
TIMEOUT 120
"" ATZ
OK ATV1E0
OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk" 
OK ATD*99#
CONNECT \c

(basically, we're removing the references to the dialup1.initstring and dialup1.phonenumber files and taking more manual control of modem init and dialling the necessary fake-number. Adjust the "general.t-mobile.uk" part if you're on a different network - set this to the value found on your phone at Tools\Settings\Connection\Packet data\Access point)

7) Save and close both files, and then use the GUI network utility to make the "Dialup Connection" actually Connect (but first, disconnect any wifi or Ethernet connections, so you can actually tell if it works or not!). All going well, it should successfully form a fake dial-up connection to your phone, which will then start doing packet-data to the network for you!

8) Now you've got it all working, save copies of your modified /etc/ppp/peers/dialup1 and /etc/chatscripts/dialup1 files - I'm pretty sure if you inadvertently fiddle with the connection's settings using the GUI tool, it will over-write our carefully modified files. (You could write-disable those files with chmod to prevent that from occurring, I guess - I've not tried it).

I'm sure some parts of this process are un-necessary, or rubbish, or open to massive improvements. But this approach is now working great for me, so I figured I'd share it. I've not wiki'd it yet.

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#2 2007-11-13 6:17:52 pm

firedup
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Hi

Thanks for the tip. I'm also T-Mob UK, but using an HTC P3600. I'm completely new to Linux though. Any idea if this would work using WM5?

Cheers

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#3 2007-11-13 6:27:47 pm

shahidur
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Works with my N95 also on T-Mobile. Thanks for this

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#4 2007-11-14 8:30:32 am

DHLittle
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

hi, i've just tried this and did all the steps but when I get to the end and try to connect it dials ( Dialing ,*99#,) but the it just says operation failed

EDIT-  Forget that, I went through it again and its working, THANKS A LOT!

Last edited by DHLittle (2007-11-14 8:57:36 am)


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#5 2007-11-14 8:52:26 am

mallard
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

On t-Mobile UK data plans:

I have an N73 on t-Mobile, with the standard (non-plus) version of "Web 'n' Walk", the main difference between this and the plus version is a 1GB "fair-use" policy (1GB/month soft limit) rather than 3GB.
The terms and conditions also state that "We do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging." However, having used it with laptops in the past (and used IM even on my phone), there do not seem to be any real controls as long as you keep bandwidth use down. (Mine was less than 1GB over 18 months).

Not that I am actually advocating breaking the TOS, just saying that there seems to be no real enforcement. YMMV.

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#6 2007-11-15 10:40:27 am

Threlly
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

I have the N95 on vodafone, when I try to see the contents of the access point, it states its locked !
Has anybody managed to set one up on Voda yet ?

Cheers, Threlly

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#7 2007-11-15 10:59:38 am

wibbble
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Threlly wrote:

I have the N95 on vodafone, when I try to see the contents of the access point, it states its locked !
Has anybody managed to set one up on Voda yet ?

Cheers, Threlly

Vodafone modify the firmware of the N95 which prevents you from changing these settings.

Network-variant handsets are a real pain, and make me glad that I don't do Nokia's tech support any more.

A tip: for non-S60 Nokia handsets (ie, not 'Nseries' or 'Eseries') you'll want to select 'Nokia mode' rather than 'PC Suite mode'. They're the same thing, but Nokia like to use different names for everything so that their customers are confused and disorientated.

If you search for 'GPRS APN' you'll find several sites with the APN details - one of them is sure to have Vodafone's.

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#8 2007-11-15 12:56:46 pm

Threlly
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

wibbble wrote:

Vodafone modify the firmware of the N95 which prevents you from changing these settings.

Network-variant handsets are a real pain, and make me glad that I don't do Nokia's tech support any more.

A tip: for non-S60 Nokia handsets (ie, not 'Nseries' or 'Eseries') you'll want to select 'Nokia mode' rather than 'PC Suite mode'. They're the same thing, but Nokia like to use different names for everything so that their customers are confused and disorientated.

If you search for 'GPRS APN' you'll find several sites with the APN details - one of them is sure to have Vodafone's.

Is it worth my while updating the firmware, as this apparently gets rid of all the Vodafone nonsense ?

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#9 2007-11-15 1:48:42 pm

Starman
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

I attempted this on my SE W950i and as you guess it didn't work. Anyone have any details on where to look regarding getting it working?


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#10 2007-11-16 11:25:10 am

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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Threlly wrote:

Is it worth my while updating the firmware, as this apparently gets rid of all the Vodafone nonsense ?

No, because if you update your firmware you'll just get the latest version of the Vodafone nonsense. You need to 'debrand' your handset, which will invalidate your warranty.

A Google search for 'NSS' and 'Nokia' should point you in the right direction.

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#11 2007-11-16 12:50:21 pm

zhuge0859
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Anyone tried doing this with a Samsung Upstage?

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#12 2007-11-16 1:52:12 pm

mikee805
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Registered: 2007-11-16
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

firedup wrote:

Hi

Thanks for the tip. I'm also T-Mob UK, but using an HTC P3600. I'm completely new to Linux though. Any idea if this would work using WM5?

Cheers

I just added a post on this here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=2436 its not the exact same method, but it works.

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#13 2007-11-27 5:54:16 am

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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

The N95 has wifi, is it possible to get the N95 to provide wifi 3g access to the Eee ?

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#14 2007-11-27 4:53:42 pm

bubblebobble
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

I've got an N70 and that didn't work. I turns out for some nokias (looking at my 'normal' laptops dial up scripts) that the section in /etc/chatscripts/dialup1

OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk"
OK ATD*99#
CONNECT \c

works if you change it to.

OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk"
OK ATD*99***1#
CONNECT \c

Hope that helps somebody else along....

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#15 2007-11-28 6:41:34 am

VIW9419
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Registered: 2007-11-25
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

wibbble wrote:

Threlly wrote:

Is it worth my while updating the firmware, as this apparently gets rid of all the Vodafone nonsense ?

No, because if you update your firmware you'll just get the latest version of the Vodafone nonsense. You need to 'debrand' your handset, which will invalidate your warranty.

A Google search for 'NSS' and 'Nokia' should point you in the right direction.

Neither step is necessary to make it work.
the voda setting is locked to prevent tampering with the setting for that access point only, the crucial info is:

*99#
user name web
Password web

you can setup a new AP with any settings you want.

ps. nokia sulk about you debranding your handset, however voda will still honour the warranty, debranded or not, (for faults not directly related to the debranding, so if you brick the phone you are on your own, but if say the speaker packs in then claim away.)


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#16 2007-11-28 7:39:12 am

Threlly
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Right, tried it all.
Can't get the connections wizard to finish.
When I click on finish it does nothing, and I have to cancel out.
Really frustrated now, been trying for over a week.

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#17 2007-12-03 9:27:54 am

Threlly
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Ok, F9'ed the Eee.
Started from scratch.
Made one important change.
I have set the APN to "internet" instead of "wap.vodafone...." etc.
Works like a charm now.
I was thinking of banging XP on it as all this palava is a less grievous on that OS.
However, as Linux is essentially virus free, I'll stick with Xandros for now.

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#18 2007-12-07 12:01:45 pm

dblake
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Just got my N70 on three.co.uk working smile
Brilliant!
Thanks Buxton

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#19 2007-12-07 8:56:09 pm

nerdyone
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Posting now via a nokia 6630 and datacable on vodafone ireland. Had to set the apn as "isp.vodafone.ie" as the recommended "live.vodafone.com" didn't work for browsing. I am not sure if I will get the best price structure though as there is some bs on the vodafone site about how you have to use the "live.vodafone.com" to qualify for a good rate.

Anyhows - I am totally chuffed to have a fully mobile connected eee pc.

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#20 2007-12-12 10:22:15 am

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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

dblake wrote:

Just got my N70 on three.co.uk working smile
Brilliant!
Thanks Buxton

What did you modify the line: OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk"  to?

Thnx.

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#21 2007-12-12 11:12:07 am

dblake
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

alchemistkevin wrote:

dblake wrote:

Just got my N70 on three.co.uk working smile
Brilliant!
Thanks Buxton

What did you modify the line: OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk"  to?

Thnx.

All I did was change "general.t-mobile.uk" to "three.co.uk" and it worked!

I got the "three.co.uk" from my phone settings.

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#22 2007-12-13 2:25:27 am

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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

How do you save do you save the information that you put in the console.. I put save as default and when i go back to see if it change anything it did nothing... please help

Thank You

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#23 2007-12-13 6:29:27 am

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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

dblake wrote:

alchemistkevin wrote:

dblake wrote:

Just got my N70 on three.co.uk working smile
Brilliant!
Thanks Buxton

What did you modify the line: OK AT+CGDCONT=,,"general.t-mobile.uk"  to?

Thnx.

All I did was change "general.t-mobile.uk" to "three.co.uk" and it worked!

I got the "three.co.uk" from my phone settings.

Thanks dblake.

I did actually then figure out where to get it from ( had to re-read the posts twice) :p

Did not work for me and I ended up tweaking the scripts a number of times, before I deleted everything and restarted again.

Did the same thing, same way - no changes and it worked!


Thanks again to you smile and three cheers to my great new gadget smile
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I'll enjoy it for a few weeks before I go searching for a new one wink

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#24 2007-12-13 6:30:47 am

alchemistkevin
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Bigdaddydave wrote:

How do you save do you save the information that you put in the console.. I put save as default and when i go back to see if it change anything it did nothing... please help

Thank You

I always like it when there are questions I can answer wink

if you use the sudo nano commands above.

you need to
1. make the required changes
2. press control+o and then press enter
3. press control+x to exit.

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#25 2007-12-13 6:31:30 am

alchemistkevin
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Re: Nokia N95, using 3G Data - success!! (using USB)

Thanks also due to Buxton for such a clear OP

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