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Cyvillian wrote:
With linux it's called suspend-to-disk. It does support it, although I'm not sure if the EeePC is set up for this. Suspend-to-RAM is much better, and has instantaneous booting.
I've actually made my own battery with similar capacity for much much cheaper. Small PVC Pipe+18650 cells = instant battery. It's stupidly easy to make. $5 for 3.6V, 2.6A. So for $100 it would be 7.2V, 26A. That's slightly more than 8800mAh. I'll do a write-up on it later if anybody is interested. I use it for my Nokia 770, DS, PSP, and cell phone. I even have multiple heads so I can charge/run 3 at once!
Plus it looks like these guys are about the same size as a AA, making for battery pack creation. Very good idea.
I only found a data sheet, can you do that write up? With special attention to how you charge the 20 cells? Did you make the cells removable from the pack, so you can charge them individually? Or is there a circuit which will charge the whole set at once?
My interest is peaked.
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Kithera wrote:
Cyvillian wrote:
With linux it's called suspend-to-disk. It does support it, although I'm not sure if the EeePC is set up for this. Suspend-to-RAM is much better, and has instantaneous booting.
I've actually made my own battery with similar capacity for much much cheaper. Small PVC Pipe+18650 cells = instant battery. It's stupidly easy to make. $5 for 3.6V, 2.6A. So for $100 it would be 7.2V, 26A. That's slightly more than 8800mAh. I'll do a write-up on it later if anybody is interested. I use it for my Nokia 770, DS, PSP, and cell phone. I even have multiple heads so I can charge/run 3 at once!Plus it looks like these guys are about the same size as a AA, making for battery pack creation. Very good idea.
I only found a data sheet, can you do that write up? With special attention to how you charge the 20 cells? Did you make the cells removable from the pack, so you can charge them individually? Or is there a circuit which will charge the whole set at once?
My interest is peaked.
I charge it all at once. I just stick the cells in PVC tubes, and tape them together in a row. Then, some small adhesive metal strips to connect them in parallel. I can charge them all at once too. Just get a simple lithium ion charger.
Alternatively you could pack the cells together with heatshrink(found on batteryspace). The cells I got didn't have tabs, so I used PVC with small metal spacers to act as tabs. If they have tabs, you can simply wrap shieldless wire around the tabs, or solder wire onto them.
18650s are slightly larger than AAs, so they don't fit in AA battery holders. Do a google search, some people have done this.
I bet something like this could power the Eee for quite a long time. Do we have final numbers on the battery statistics?
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Hi arne
nice to have some info at last, will u be putting a review on youtube Thanks
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[Cyvillian wrote:]
"I'll do a write-up on it later if anybody is interested."
Please give complete details with photos.
Thanks
pcfy
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Arne, if you get a chance, could you run a few disk tests and post the results?
maybe "hdparm -t" on
- the built-in flash disk
- an SD card
- a USB 2.0 thumbdrive
Thanks for the review/article...
-- Nate
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Like the rest.. Tnks for the review...
For that open spot for a add-on card.. Could memory be added there... If a mini PCI slot format... Just thinking...
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Nightwing wrote:
Like the rest.. Tnks for the review...
For that open spot for a add-on card.. Could memory be added there... If a mini PCI slot format... Just thinking...
I searched for that but did not find much. The only mini PCI express memory add on I found was something called "Intel Turbo Memory Card 1GB". I don't know if it will work as a memory expansion or if it is some other kind of dedicated memory for Windows Vista only. I don't know the answer but it would be a cheap way to add another gig of storage space if it would work, it sells for about $30.
http://www.thenerds.net/INTEL.Intel_Tur … mp;affid=2
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I agree with this line of thinking. We need to figure out the exact type of RAM the Eee PC takes, which exact models of that RAM are available online, and how easy it is to replace the Eee's RAM.
It's important to remember that this is a cheap computer - so perhaps some people buying the Eee that read these boards have never done anything like upgrading RAM or anything of the sort.
I have before - but it would still be very good to know exactly which RAM chips are the best for the Eee, where to buy them, etc. I think questions like this are exactly what this website was set up for
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---Vil.
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Vilkata wrote:
I agree with this line of thinking. We need to figure out the exact type of RAM the Eee PC takes, which exact models of that RAM are available online, and how easy it is to replace the Eee's RAM.
It's important to remember that this is a cheap computer - so perhaps some people buying the Eee that read these boards have never done anything like upgrading RAM or anything of the sort.
I have before - but it would still be very good to know exactly which RAM chips are the best for the Eee, where to buy them, etc. I think questions like this are exactly what this website was set up for.
---Vil.
It's quite simple. The motherboard uses a 910GM chipset, and it uses a DDR2-400 200 pin SODIMM. You can use a faster RAM if you want, but won't take advantage of the RAMs limits. I'd recommend a DDR2-533 or DDR2-667 module, as those are the cheapest and easiest to get ahold of.
I'm not sure why they say 1GB is the maximum, considering the chipset supports more than that, and 2GB sticks are available. At 900MHz though, the different between 1GB and 2GB will be minimal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820227235
The price difference is $100. That's enough to get you an 8GB SDHC card and 1GB RAM. So for the price of an upper-end model, you can have one with double the specs.
Now the only question that remains is whether the flash memory onboard is faster than a SDHC card.
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docprego wrote:
Nightwing wrote:
Like the rest.. Tnks for the review...
For that open spot for a add-on card.. Could memory be added there... If a mini PCI slot format... Just thinking...I searched for that but did not find much. The only mini PCI express memory add on I found was something called "Intel Turbo Memory Card 1GB". I don't know if it will work as a memory expansion or if it is some other kind of dedicated memory for Windows Vista only. I don't know the answer but it would be a cheap way to add another gig of storage space if it would work, it sells for about $30.
http://www.thenerds.net/INTEL.Intel_Tur … mp;affid=2
That was the main though... Except for add on wifi card all I have heard used for those sockets..
Hum.. Saw where some one hacked a UMPC with using a USB drive and an extra set of ports and did that internal...
Could be a socket on the other side of the Mother board... If cheep would be intresting to try for an add on.
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Wonder what the SSD conector is if any or just a board part to part connection... Like a USB memory stick..
Hum.... Also wonder if you can run off of the USB slot.. Take a 1gb or bigger size USB drive.. Strip the case and USB connector.. Just down to the bare board and solder it across one of the USB connectors.. Them you could put it inside...
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Cyvillian wrote:
Vilkata wrote:
I agree with this line of thinking. We need to figure out the exact type of RAM the Eee PC takes, which exact models of that RAM are available online, and how easy it is to replace the Eee's RAM.
It's important to remember that this is a cheap computer - so perhaps some people buying the Eee that read these boards have never done anything like upgrading RAM or anything of the sort.
I have before - but it would still be very good to know exactly which RAM chips are the best for the Eee, where to buy them, etc. I think questions like this are exactly what this website was set up for.
---Vil.It's quite simple. The motherboard uses a 910GM chipset, and it uses a DDR2-400 200 pin SODIMM. You can use a faster RAM if you want, but won't take advantage of the RAMs limits. I'd recommend a DDR2-533 or DDR2-667 module, as those are the cheapest and easiest to get ahold of.
I'm not sure why they say 1GB is the maximum, considering the chipset supports more than that, and 2GB sticks are available. At 900MHz though, the different between 1GB and 2GB will be minimal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820227235
The price difference is $100. That's enough to get you an 8GB SDHC card and 1GB RAM. So for the price of an upper-end model, you can have one with double the specs.
Now the only question that remains is whether the flash memory onboard is faster than a SDHC card.
Thats a good question!
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Nightwing wrote:
Wonder what the SSD conector is if any or just a board part to part connection... Like a USB memory stick..
Hum.... Also wonder if you can run off of the USB slot.. Take a 1gb or bigger size USB drive.. Strip the case and USB connector.. Just down to the bare board and solder it across one of the USB connectors.. Them you could put it inside...
That's what I've been suggesting in all my posts in other threads. That's also how I plan to add bluetooth to my Eee. ![]()
I've sold my powerbook, so I'm actually laptop-less until I get my Eee! AIEEE!
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I think it's a great idea to put a USB bluetooth/flash drive/whatever inside the casing; just make sure it's placed in a spot that will not obstruct airflow...
Anyway my question to Arne...many of us are planning on installing programs onto a large SDHC card that will basically make it a permanent part of the computer. I've had sd cards lose all their data and become corrupted when they are yanked while being accessed (not to mention the computer would freeze). So how difficult would you say it would be to bump the sdhc and have it pop out while the computer is running?
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Hey, how many days before you return the unit? Maybe we can do an "EEE PC shot for the day" thread here, or something? You know...for us mortals. ![]()
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Bluetooth:
You can add bluetooth (almost permanently) but it'll take up a USB slot.
Check this one out:
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/09/04/pr … -seen.html
I'm glad the memory is expandable. The more RAM the better because I'm interested in trying replace the OS with XP.
But I don't know if it's worth it to get the $400 EEEPC and sink another $200 in to it to upgrade it. Or should I just spend 1K on the Lenovo 3000 V100 (very small low end 12" laptop.)
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rf9 wrote:
Bluetooth:
You can add bluetooth (almost permanently) but it'll take up a USB slot.
Check this one out:
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/09/04/pr … -seen.html
Wow, very cool. Do you have any idea where/if they're available for sale?
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Cyvillian wrote:
Vilkata wrote:
I agree with this line of thinking. We need to figure out the exact type of RAM the Eee PC takes, which exact models of that RAM are available online, and how easy it is to replace the Eee's RAM.
It's important to remember that this is a cheap computer - so perhaps some people buying the Eee that read these boards have never done anything like upgrading RAM or anything of the sort.
I have before - but it would still be very good to know exactly which RAM chips are the best for the Eee, where to buy them, etc. I think questions like this are exactly what this website was set up for.
---Vil.It's quite simple. The motherboard uses a 910GM chipset, and it uses a DDR2-400 200 pin SODIMM. You can use a faster RAM if you want, but won't take advantage of the RAMs limits. I'd recommend a DDR2-533 or DDR2-667 module, as those are the cheapest and easiest to get ahold of.
I'm not sure why they say 1GB is the maximum, considering the chipset supports more than that, and 2GB sticks are available. At 900MHz though, the different between 1GB and 2GB will be minimal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820231042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6820227235
The price difference is $100. That's enough to get you an 8GB SDHC card and 1GB RAM. So for the price of an upper-end model, you can have one with double the specs.
Now the only question that remains is whether the flash memory onboard is faster than a SDHC card.
So that G.SKILL 1GB RAM WILL work with the Eee? If so, that knocks out my worries about possibly not seeing a 1GB RAM version, but I wonder if there will be a 256MB RAM one with 16GB storage so it's cheap but I can just upgrade the RAM?
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Shun wrote:
So that G.SKILL 1GB RAM WILL work with the Eee? If so, that knocks out my worries about possibly not seeing a 1GB RAM version, but I wonder if there will be a 256MB RAM one with 16GB storage so it's cheap but I can just upgrade the RAM?
There is no way they will bring out a 16GB version with only 256MB of system RAM. The first three models that will be available clearly show that they are including 256MB system RAM only with the 2GB SSD. Once you jump to the 4 GB SSD it comes with 512MB of system RAM. A 16GB SSD version would likely include at least 512MB or possibly even 1GB of system memory.
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Vilkata wrote:
It's important to remember that this is a cheap computer - so perhaps some people buying the Eee that read these boards have never done anything like upgrading RAM or anything of the sort.
I have before - but it would still be very good to know exactly which RAM chips are the best for the Eee, where to buy them, etc. I think questions like this are exactly what this website was set up for.
---Vil.
Total agreement. have done things like replacing the HD in my iBook with no problem (Iwas also a copier/fax/printer technician for over 10 years); so, turning a screwdriver and keeping the parts organized is not the concern. Being sure of the compatibility of the parts and knowing any of the commands to make hem play nicely is the concern.
The next concern would be just being able to get th parts, I am in China and most "made in China" products are never offered for sale here. I have to have then shipped from the States at about $35 each time
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docprego wrote:
Shun wrote:
So that G.SKILL 1GB RAM WILL work with the Eee? If so, that knocks out my worries about possibly not seeing a 1GB RAM version, but I wonder if there will be a 256MB RAM one with 16GB storage so it's cheap but I can just upgrade the RAM?
There is no way they will bring out a 16GB version with only 256MB of system RAM. The first three models that will be available clearly show that they are including 256MB system RAM only with the 2GB SSD. Once you jump to the 4 GB SSD it comes with 512MB of system RAM. A 16GB SSD version would likely include at least 512MB or possibly even 1GB of system memory.
Well if the 1GB RAM/16GB SSD isn't that expensive, that's fine.
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Actually, I as I posted in a different thread, I spoke to a rep this morning about the 8 & 16GB 3e's. Asus will not be releasing any 8 or 16GB ones this year. The rep hinted at the possibility for Asus to be releasing them in the 701's along with 1001 or only in the 1001's in April '08 releases. This was a huge disappointment to me but after hearing this I went ahead and preordered the 701 with 512 ram and 4GB.
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It'd be nice if we could upgrade the SSD too though.
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dhawk312 wrote:
The rep hinted at the possibility for Asus to be releasing them in the 701's along with 1001 or only in the 1001's in April '08 releases. This was a huge disappointment to me but after hearing this I went ahead and preordered the 701 with 512 ram and 4GB.
where did you pre-order it from?
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dhawk312 wrote:
Actually, I as I posted in a different thread, I spoke to a rep this morning about the 8 & 16GB 3e's. Asus will not be releasing any 8 or 16GB ones this year. The rep hinted at the possibility for Asus to be releasing them in the 701's along with 1001 or only in the 1001's in April '08 releases. This was a huge disappointment to me but after hearing this I went ahead and preordered the 701 with 512 ram and 4GB.
i thought the 1001 was killed because it was too much in competition with other ultraportable (12-13") laptops... ? so either your a rep is ahead of the curve or behind it?
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