 |
 |
 |
|
 |
You are not logged in.
I've discovered that applications opening larger windows than the display can support appears to be a common complaint. This results in unreachable buttons/options/etc at the bottom of the window. I couldn't find a proper fix so....
Alt-left click doesn't let me drag windows above the top of the screen for some reason and I certainly don't have the confidence to go hacking around in xorg.conf (both mentioned in posts I've trawled through looking for an answer)
What I have found and made use of is the ability to configure the row of icons (these bars are called "panels" by ubuntu) at the top and bottom of the screen by right clicking in an empty section and chosing properties.
What I've done on mine is not pretty but it does go some way to overcoming this. I've removed dross from the top "panel" such as my name - although I'm of slightly advanced years I really don't think I'm likely to forget that. A right click on the individual icon allows removal for some but not all of the icons. Then I've set it to autohide and appear on the left. I added the "deleted items" folder to the top panel and then completely removed the bottom panel. You can move the icons around with right click and move.
The result doesn't look as good as the default settings but it does buy an extra 48 pixels of depth which I've found was enough for a couple of the applications I had trouble with.
Offline
you can also try installing the package "915resolution". It will allow you to set a higher resolution, allowing you to pan the screen using your mouse cursor. Sorta like setting the resolution to 800x600 in XP and moving the cursor to pan to the larger area of the cropped screen.
Offline
kwikbreaks wrote:
Alt-left click doesn't let me drag windows above the top of the screen for some reason
I want to change this also. I think it may be a property of the window manager, not the Xserver.
Oddly the 7.04 live CD I used did allow me to move the windows above the top of the screen, but 7.10 does not.
Offline
I had an idea: Why not use the screen-scaling abilities of Compiz Fusion in tandem with an enlarged display area?
I.e. Set a slightly higher display size in Xorg.conf (something like 1000*600 should work well) then, using Compiz Fusion, "zoom out" to 80%...
EDIT: Found out how to set up panning in Xorg.conf, you would want something like this for my proposed setup:
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 32
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 32
Modes "800x480"
Virtual 1000 600
EndSubSection
EndSectionLast edited by mallard (2007-11-15 5:47:36 pm)
Offline
XFCE (Xubuntu) lets you alt-drag, I think there's a compiz option ('disable y-restriction' or something similar) that will turn it on.
Offline
Thanks for suggestions.
My son came up with an alternative which I've just tried and seems to be a good soultion too...
The bottom bar contains a virtual desktop control. As I'd deleted my bottom bar I had to resurrect the control (right click add to panel Workspace Switcher) and add it to my left panel. If you right click on it you can adjust the preferences - I've now got one virtual screen below the first screen by setting the workspaces to 1 column 2 rows.
Set up this way an overly deep window runs down into the lower workspace and can be worked on there. Unfortunately the top/bottom position for the launcher panel still overlays a portion of the window to a left or right postion will still be needed.
Offline
This might be a "doh!" solution, or it might be an "idot!" suggestion:
when you ALT+left click to move the window, the mouse pointer will not go above the screen height.
You have to ALT+left click somewhere near the bottom of the window to allow you to move the mouse pointer upto the top of the window and thus gain window movement.
If that makes sense...
Offline
Makes sense indeed but unfortunately I already knew that and it still doesn't work on mine.
Offline
That was an "idiot!" suggestion by me then.
Sorry dude.
You would be surprised how long it took me to work that one out though... 
... or maybe you wouldn't.
Offline
kwikbreaks wrote:
Makes sense indeed but unfortunately I already knew that and it still doesn't work on mine.
The problem may be the top bar, which you likely have. It shows what applications are open. But it also seems to block the movement of the windows upward. You can configure it to autohide, and when it is hid, you'll be able to move the windows up. Rather annoying -
This on my XFCE desktop. Perhaps this suggestion addresses the problem...
Offline
You can always move the toolbars to the sides? Got plenty of width on the screen! Personally I just use auto hide on both bars.
Offline
If you read the post I started this thread off with you'll see that I have already moved them to the side and tried autohide. ALT drag still won't move the window above the top of the screen.
I assume you either don't use applications which open oversize non resizeable windows or haven't actually got 7.1 installed on an eee. The problem can be easily recreated (as someone in this thread already has).
Last edited by kwikbreaks (2007-11-16 4:41:20 pm)
Offline
kwikbreaks wrote:
If you read the post I started this thread off with you'll see that I have already moved them to the side and tried autohide. ALT drag still won't move the window above the top of the screen.
I assume you either don't use applications which open oversize non resizeable windows or haven't actually got 7.1 installed on an eee. The problem can be easily recreated (as someone in this thread already has).
I have 7.1 installed, and use XFCE as the desktop manager - once I turned on the autohide option for the top bar, I was able to move the windows above the top of the screen. (The problem you report, if I understand it correctly, is not an X11 problem, but a desktop manager problem.)
Offline
I went the XFCE route and am happier with the window behavior now.
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
Offline
Hello,
I've found the option that was stopping windows going above the top menu in compiz.
Run gconf-editor and navigate to apps/compiz/plugins/move/allscreens/options and uncheck constrain_y
Regards
Corrie
Offline
Why not just merge the two menu bars into one? I mean, put all the controls you want that are in the top bar into the bottom bar then delete the top bar. That's what I did with 7.04 on my desktop, because I thought having task bars top and bottom was a bit silly.
Offline
griffc wrote:
Run gconf-editor and navigate to apps/compiz/plugins/move/allscreens/options and uncheck constrain_y
Tried that one and it still hits its head on the ceiling. Restarted X then rebooted completely - still the same.
Will investigate XFCE
BTW Corrie - I've set up ekiga now if you want to try it later.
========================
OK the problem does not exist in XFCE. There is a problem though - doing the install over default ubuntu leave less than 1GB of free space
I think I'll give xubuntu a go and see what that looks like
============
You were correct that I'd sudo the gconf-editor. Just typing it in as-is does fix the problem. Now to see if I can uninstall the XFCE stuff to free up some space
Last edited by kwikbreaks (2007-11-17 12:43:37 pm)
Offline
griffc wrote:
Hello,
I've found the option that was stopping windows going above the top menu in compiz.
Run gconf-editor and navigate to apps/compiz/plugins/move/allscreens/options and uncheck constrain_y
Regards
Corrie
i'm having this one problem
with gconf-editor
when i type in bash gconf-editor it says:
bash: gconf-editor: command not found.
it seems that i'm missing this tool. How do i install it?
or can the same be done with the gconftool and how?
Last edited by Gamesh (2007-12-04 9:55:49 am)
Offline
Are you running Ubuntu? It was "just there" on mine.
Offline
No i'm running default linux system that cam with the asus Eee preinstalled. if i'm not mistaken its Xandros linux based on the Debian Sarge.
is't away to run this tool on other linux dist.
Offline
gconf-editor is a Gnome-based tool, and Xandros is mainly a KDE-based distribution. I did notice a few Gtk apps installed (like Synaptic) before I installed Ubuntu, but apparently gconf-editor is not one of them. That makes sense, since gconf-editor is mainly for configuring Gnome's behavior.
Last edited by dto (2007-12-04 4:40:35 pm)
Offline
What do you thing of my setup? (click the picture to see it unshrunk)
Last edited by halfvulcan (2007-12-11 3:51:08 am)
Offline
In Metisse, Window scaling is really easy, you can simply rotate the scroll wheel on the window and shrink the window to fit!
Works on any window, and the text is still legible enough.
Offline
Ok...my first post but I have a rEaL solution to this. I am running xP if that matters. Anyways I have an eeePc utility that lets me flip between 800 x480 (what I use) and 800 x 600 which is the solution. When I flip to 800 x 600, and move arrow to bottom of screen, the screen moves up and I can get at those pesky OK/Apply buttons I couldn't get at it before... Then just flip back to 800 x 480.
Have you ever just stared at the screen and wondered about how it all works?
Offline
PLEASE please can someone explaine step by step in 'idiot' terms to me what this all means. My 900 eee has been switched to advanced desktop mode, running on the pre installed linux OS and I am having the same problems with my KDE applications, I cannot for the life of me get to the 'apply' buttons down the bottom.
If someone has a way of explaining how to fix this to a complete Linux novice I would be extremely grateful.
Ta
Sammi
Offline
