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Many EeePC users may find EeePC is handy, but the software included is slow.
Here are some good alternatives for the default ones.
To see is to believe. Please see the video clip created by lazyfai first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaDyffzcu0
The new file manager can be started within 1 ~ 2 seconds,
load large directories within reasonable time, and preview image files.
Besides, the image viewer can be started in less than 1 second.
They are significantly faster than the built-in ones, while providing equivalent functionality.
The handy file manager is PCManFM 0.3.5.23 (The latest version released several days ago)
http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
Besides, here is a useful tip for PCManFM 0.3.5.23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGUOvSMWm6c
The image viewer is GPicView 0.1.8.
http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/GPicView
deb packages are already created, tested, and provided by XEPC project.
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=14171
Please give it a try, and give us some feedbacks. :-)
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Hi pcman,
Your File Manager seems really good but you are going to have to give me some help on installing it on the Eee, please.
I looked for a Deb package first and found 3.2.2 for Debian, so decided to give that a try to start with. It installed OK with Synaptic but each time it was started came up with a warning message regarding GTK+ Icons & Themes. Of course when the warning was closed and pcmanfm opened it had no file/folder icons. Seemed to work fine and, as said, very quick compared to XandrosFileManager.
As Eee uses KDE and there was a message about future KDE compatibility, I assume 3.5.23 is OK with KDE icons. On that basis I downloaded the source files, installed gcc on the Eee and tried to follow the build guide. That did not go too well. Eventually found a way to launch configure but it told me that gcc was not capable of creating executables (something extra that I needed to install no doubt but I have no idea what!?).
So the main questions are:-
Where can I find a Deb binary for 3.5.23?
Does it support KDE icons now?
Will it work with no problems on the Eee?
Many thanks for any help you can give me, John.
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hi,
i know pcmanfm to be a fast filemanager, but who does not want the extra load of gtk libraries for an extra filemanager can take a look at the already preinstalled kde filemanager 'konqueror'.
- open up a terminal (STRG-ALT-T)
- Type: "konqueror"
It is a very handy, though not very lightweigt, filemanager subjectively faster and smoother to use than the eee default filemanager.
by the way, does pcmanfm really have the same features as the default filemanager, for example does it open up FTP connections - dont think so?
Flo
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a2c39a wrote:
Hi pcman,
Your File Manager seems really good but you are going to have to give me some help on installing it on the Eee, please.
I looked for a Deb package first and found 3.2.2 for Debian, so decided to give that a try to start with. It installed OK with Synaptic but each time it was started came up with a warning message regarding GTK+ Icons & Themes. Of course when the warning was closed and pcmanfm opened it had no file/folder icons. Seemed to work fine and, as said, very quick compared to XandrosFileManager.
As Eee uses KDE and there was a message about future KDE compatibility, I assume 3.5.23 is OK with KDE icons. On that basis I downloaded the source files, installed gcc on the Eee and tried to follow the build guide. That did not go too well. Eventually found a way to launch configure but it told me that gcc was not capable of creating executables (something extra that I needed to install no doubt but I have no idea what!?).
So the main questions are:-
Where can I find a Deb binary for 3.5.23?
Does it support KDE icons now?
Will it work with no problems on the Eee?
Many thanks for any help you can give me, John.
0.3.2.2 is old and not recommended since it contains some bugs.
The latest version fixed them.
To run gtk+ programs under KDE you will need to set up "~/.gtkrc-2.0" file.
The content of that file, is described in that error message, in every detail.
If you didn't read it, here is a quick quide.
Just add this line in it.
gtk-icon-theme-name="THE NAME OF YOUR ICON THEME"
That name can be figured out by viewing /usr/share/icons.
Names other than hicolor should work,
although you will lost most of the icon if you choose a KDE theme.
KDE icons are not OK, because there is NO standard for icon theme naming.
Although there is a proposed one on freedesktop.org, KDE doesn't use this at all.
Except KDE itself, no one is using KDE-style icon theme. KDE uses its own mechanism,
while gnome and xfce uses another one.
So, PCManFM adopted the gnome one since the probability it will be used in KDE is lower.
Nice icons for gnome can be found on http://www.gnome-look.org/
Otherwise, both pcmanfm and a good-looking small icon set is already packaged and put
in the apt repo of xepc.org founded by lazyfai.
Debs are available officially, too. But our debs are for Debian and Ubuntu. While derived from Debian, Xandros seems to break the compatibility already.
If you want to build it by hand, here is instructions:
http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/build.html
Or, you can ask lazyfai for instructions.
Good luck! Thank you for trying this :-)
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flomar wrote:
hi,
i know pcmanfm to be a fast filemanager, but who does not want the extra load of gtk libraries for an extra filemanager can take a look at the already preinstalled kde filemanager 'konqueror'.
- open up a terminal (STRG-ALT-T)
- Type: "konqueror"
It is a very handy, though not very lightweigt, filemanager subjectively faster and smoother to use than the eee default filemanager.
by the way, does pcmanfm really have the same features as the default filemanager, for example does it open up FTP connections - dont think so?
Flo
The extra load of gtk+ library is not very noticeable, compared to the heavy KDE.
Konqueror is very handy, indeed, if you got a fast machine. For older ones, it's quite heavy.
It will be much faster if the whole KDE and its services get loaded,
which requires much system resources and
it by far not the case of EeePC.
PCManFM will work well without any desktop environment preinstalled.
It didn't use gnome or others and was made desktop-independent purposely
with low resource usage and speed in mind.
Open up FTP connections is not currently available, but there are good GUI ftp clients.
You don't really need to bundle everything in a file manager since most of them are not
very frequently used.
Besides, when this is needed, curlfsftp can be used to add ftp support.
With FUSE technology, remote file systems can be mounted locally as part of the file system.
We plan to support that in the future.
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pcmanfs has entered XEPC.org repository, coming together with a nice icon theme.
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is the version on the xepc.org repository for all languages? or simplified chinese only? Also how can I directly download the deb package, or MUST I add this repository?
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This is for all languages, and to install by dpkg, you can download 2 packages:
http://updates.xepc.org/pool/p/pcmanfm/ … 1_i386.deb
and
http://updates.xepc.org/pool/g/gnome-ic … 1_i386.deb
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I just tried to install these using dpkg and it says package gamin is needed but is not installed. What is that and where do I get it please? (it installed the gnome part but the pcmanfm had a dependancy problem)
Last edited by airship17 (2008-02-20 12:19:30 pm)
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Installed OK on my main Ubuntu machine and it is fast. Problem is it seg faults if I open any files at all.
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Lazyfai, I'm getting the same error.
/home/user> sudo dpkg -i pcmanfm_0.3.5.23-1+eeepc1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package pcmanfm.
(Reading database ... 72358 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking pcmanfm (from pcmanfm_0.3.5.23-1+eeepc1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of pcmanfm:
pcmanfm depends on gamin; however:
Package gamin is not installed.
pcmanfm depends on gnome-icon-nuovext; however:
Package gnome-icon-nuovext is not installed.
dpkg: error processing pcmanfm (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
pcmanfm
/home/user>
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Oh yes, you need gamin too.
http://updates.xepc.org/pool/g/gamin/li … 2_i386.deb
http://updates.xepc.org/pool/g/gamin/ga … 2_i386.deb
but of course the simplest way is to use xepc.org repositoy directly.
http://updates.xepc.org/ p701 main
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lazyfai wrote:
http://updates.xepc.org/
Nice welcoming message on that link 
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When I try to open the current folder as root I get this error:
Failed to run pcmanfm '/home/user' as user root.
Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
Any Ideas how to fix this?
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Default Xandros in easy mode. I add your repos now and get these errors when trying to install
/home/user> sudo apt-get -f install pcmanfm
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
pcmanfm: Depends: libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1) but 1.0.2-1 is to be installed
Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.74) but 0.71-3 is to be installed
Depends: libhal-storage1 (>= 0.5.10) but 0.5.8.1-9 is to be installed
Depends: libhal1 (>= 0.5.10) but 0.5.8.1-9 is to be installed
Depends: gnome-icon-nuovext but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).Any Ideas lazyfai?
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Hi PCMan !
Your job is great but ... it doesn't work out of the box.
I installed pcmanfm using synaptic, then gpicview and also the Nuovo theme from gnome, I created and edited my gtkrc-2.0 as said (I choosed the 'Nuovo' theme) , but I didn't get any icon in the file manager ... I was hopeless.
I ran pcmanfm as root and I got a perfect filemanager with nice icons ...
I solved the problem by changing .gtkrc-2.0 with gtk-icon-theme-name="nouveXT.2.2" and I am very satisfied as it works perfectly.
By the way how can I set gpicview as the default image viewer ? (it'SO fast !)
Thanks.
From France, Paul Lemagne
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dnar wrote:
ROX rocks for me (along with the default icewm sans the Asus launcher.
How do you install ROX?
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is this a fork of thunar?
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clevin wrote:
is this a fork of thunar?
No, it's totally written from scratch, despite the resemblance in UI with Thunar.
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paul.lemagne wrote:
Hi PCMan !
Your job is great but ... it doesn't work out of the box.
I installed pcmanfm using synaptic, then gpicview and also the Nuovo theme from gnome, I created and edited my gtkrc-2.0 as said (I choosed the 'Nuovo' theme) , but I didn't get any icon in the file manager ... I was hopeless.
I ran pcmanfm as root and I got a perfect filemanager with nice icons ...
I solved the problem by changing .gtkrc-2.0 with gtk-icon-theme-name="nouveXT.2.2" and I am very satisfied as it works perfectly.
By the way how can I set gpicview as the default image viewer ? (it'SO fast !)
Thanks.
From France, Paul Lemagne
If you are using PCManFM, right click on the image file, and get the popup menu.
Then, you can set the default program in the "Properties" dialog.
About the icon, I have no idea why your Nuovo didn't work. :-(
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Rox Install....
sudo apt-get install rox-filer
(not sure if you need to add aditional repositories... probably do)
Fast as hell. Works out of the box.
This one looks promising though... rox is lightning fast, but the lack of filetree view leaves me wanting.
Jim
Last edited by jimrooney (2008-02-27 1:42:53 am)
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jimrooney wrote:
Rox Install....
sudo apt-get install rox-filer
(not sure if you need to add aditional repositories... probably do)
Fast as hell. Works out of the box.
This one looks promising though... rox is lightning fast, but the lack of filetree view leaves me wanting.
Jim
Actually this one is as fast as rox, and the mime-type detection is much better than rox's implementation. Please try it yourself.
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zeroid wrote:
dnar wrote:
ROX rocks for me (along with the default icewm sans the Asus launcher.
How do you install ROX?
I followed this helpfull post here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=8382
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The simplest way to install is by adding xepc.org repository and use apt-get to do all this setting automatically. :-)
Add "deb http://updates.xepc.org/ p701 main" to /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install pcmanfm
Afterward, you can use hotkey Ctrl-Alt-P to open pcmanfm!
paul.lemagne wrote:
Hi PCMan !
Your job is great but ... it doesn't work out of the box.
I installed pcmanfm using synaptic, then gpicview and also the Nuovo theme from gnome, I created and edited my gtkrc-2.0 as said (I choosed the 'Nuovo' theme) , but I didn't get any icon in the file manager ... I was hopeless.
I ran pcmanfm as root and I got a perfect filemanager with nice icons ...
I solved the problem by changing .gtkrc-2.0 with gtk-icon-theme-name="nouveXT.2.2" and I am very satisfied as it works perfectly.
By the way how can I set gpicview as the default image viewer ? (it'SO fast !)
Thanks.
From France, Paul Lemagne
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