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#1 2007-10-31 6:56:40 pm

jpskips
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From: Devon, UK
Registered: 2007-10-21
Posts: 29

Internal Modem???

According to this post in General Discussion/Quick Eee video

okachi wrote:

jpskips wrote:

Thanks for the video, you mentioned the modem port, but I think there is no modem, is this correct?

On my review machine, the modem port is filled with a big chunk of plastic. But I've prised out that plastic now, and low and behold, there appears to be a proper telephone connector port (4 lines)! Initially, I thought the rubber blocker was there to fill a hole, in case future Eees had a modem. But it appears that the hardware is there...

In the Internet Connection Wizard dialog, you can set up a modem connection (the device is on /dev/ttySL0), so it clearly has an internal modem. Wow, it gets better and better :-) WiFi, Ethernet and now modem -- how much more connected can you get for such a tiny and affordable device...

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The could be an internal Modem, any one got anything further to add to this?

JP

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#2 2007-10-31 11:44:17 pm

Magpie
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Registered: 2007-09-18
Posts: 63

Re: Internal Modem???

That's really interesting!!!

As anyone tested it? Does it work?

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#3 2007-10-31 11:57:52 pm

dietcokefiend
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From: Ohio
Registered: 2007-10-27
Posts: 16
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Re: Internal Modem???

The modem hardware is present, but the MDC card needed to make it work is not present. There is a spot for a daughter card, and a cable that hooks up to drive the rj12 connector, but on the current 4g models it is not there internally. I am guessing it is an option for the 8gb+ models.

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#4 2007-11-01 12:22:01 am

phrekyos
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From: USA
Registered: 2007-10-16
Posts: 31

Re: Internal Modem???

By the spot for the card, do you mean the place next to the RAM? (which is mini PCI express according to what I read)

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#5 2007-11-01 12:50:51 am

Feanor
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Registered: 2007-10-29
Posts: 71

Re: Internal Modem???

I could be remembering wrong, but I thought the specs for the EEE always included a modem.  That or at least I always assumed it had one.

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#6 2007-11-01 4:42:42 am

okachi
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Registered: 2007-10-30
Posts: 37

Re: Internal Modem???

Looks like dietcokefiend has fathomed it out -- I daren't take my review unit apart :-) I've just tried to establish a dialup connection, and strangely, the modem appears to be recognised as an Intel gizmo (on /dev/ttySL0), but when trying to dial, I get a 'Failed to initialize the modem' error. Bah.

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#7 2007-11-01 3:03:51 pm

Jimbo
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Registered: 2007-09-05
Posts: 32

Re: Internal Modem???

As pointed out by someone else, the modem is there and appears to be functional.  Why did they stick a rubber plug in there.  Perhaps to keep dirt out, or avoid people trying to wrench a lan connector in there?  Hmmm  BTW....just got mine......nice. Just what I was expecting in almost every way. That doesn't happen often.

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#8 2007-11-02 12:18:53 am

DonkeyBeliever
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Registered: 2007-10-30
Posts: 113

Re: Internal Modem???

I have to agree the eeepc exceeds all expectations, but I too wonder why they would block out that port, I haven't had a chance to go though the manual yet to see if it mentions anything about a Dialup modem. I don't seem to remember asus advertising the modem functionality very heavily, perhaps they plan to remove it in a later revision?

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#9 2007-11-02 11:56:14 am

sam613
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Registered: 2007-10-26
Posts: 31

Re: Internal Modem???

There is no modem board inside, so the RJ-11 slot is useless.
The modem module is available only on model 700, which doesn't have Wi-fi.

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#10 2007-11-03 5:32:04 am

Nightwing
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Registered: 2007-06-22
Posts: 341

Re: Internal Modem???

Saw at Frys they have a USB to V92 std modem for 13 dollars. The box list Linux as one of the OS. Convac or something named chipset. Forgot exactly what. Was more intrestied in the cheep Bluetooth adapter.

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#11 2007-11-03 12:09:36 pm

Anarethos
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From: Montréal
Registered: 2007-10-29
Posts: 393
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Re: Internal Modem???

So, the modem is "imcomplete".

fine. I need one. Internally. Most of my friends/familly members don't have Internet. I use my modem connection in that case. No modem, no EEE.

Snif!


Asus EEE 900HA - 2gb RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate
[Old EEE 701 Surf and Aspire One 150 user]

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#12 2007-11-03 1:39:14 pm

Anarethos
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Registered: 2007-10-29
Posts: 393
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Re: Internal Modem???

Weird... On the Asus DL page for the 4G 701, there is Windows XP Drivers for the OnBoard modem...... ???


Asus EEE 900HA - 2gb RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate
[Old EEE 701 Surf and Aspire One 150 user]

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#13 2007-11-03 2:54:13 pm

TheBronze
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Registered: 2007-10-29
Posts: 239

Re: Internal Modem???

Maybe its must me, but aren't you guys getting a little worked up over a modem? Is there really much dial up any more? Not poo-pooing it, its what I used to use waaay back when, but its pretty hard to find a place that doesn't at least have a hard wire hookup, if not wi-fi. But then again, I am in Seattle. smile

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#14 2007-11-03 3:08:52 pm

crow
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Registered: 2007-11-02
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Re: Internal Modem???

yes theres drivers for it

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#15 2007-11-03 3:09:14 pm

digitalebola
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Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 129

Re: Internal Modem???

TheBronze wrote:

Maybe its must me, but aren't you guys getting a little worked up over a modem? Is there really much dial up any more? Not poo-pooing it, its what I used to use waaay back when, but its pretty hard to find a place that doesn't at least have a hard wire hookup, if not wi-fi. But then again, I am in Seattle. smile

On the road I have experienced very low bandwidth in hotels.  If they are running shared bandwidth I have gotten faster speed from dial up!!!

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#16 2007-11-03 9:22:56 pm

Hahutzy
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Registered: 2007-11-03
Posts: 264

Re: Internal Modem???

Why don't they just take everything modem-related out and stick a bluetooth in there... Geez...

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#17 2007-11-04 1:37:23 am

Anarethos
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From: Montréal
Registered: 2007-10-29
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Re: Internal Modem???

I need the modem because, even if at my house I have a Wireless network, I have lot of person in my familly where they don't have a computer, so, no Internet access. I use the included time in my cable plan (10h per month) in that case. Alose, in Canada, there is no unlimited data plan with a cell phone. The best I can have is 250MB for 100$ per moth and 15$ per megabyte after that.

So yes, I need the modem. I will prefer to pay 1000$ buck for a UMPC with a modem. I don't want anything external.

Also, I send/receive fax. I need that.

So, too bad.


Asus EEE 900HA - 2gb RAM
Windows 7 Ultimate
[Old EEE 701 Surf and Aspire One 150 user]

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#18 2007-11-04 4:34:31 am

Hahutzy
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Registered: 2007-11-03
Posts: 264

Re: Internal Modem???

That's indeed most unfortunate.

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#19 2007-11-04 11:39:50 pm

st0x
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From: AUCKLAND, New Zealand
Registered: 2007-10-29
Posts: 87

Re: Internal Modem???

Asus have a section regarding the 56k Internal modem in the documentation,  I beleive they had issues getting International Telepermits for the device.  sad

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#20 2007-11-05 1:59:52 am

RijilV
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2007-11-05
Posts: 7
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Re: Internal Modem???

I think you can get one of these modem cards for pretty cheap online.  supposedly there is one sitting under the base of my thumb on this Thinkpad X60:

A close up of the card:
http://www.laptopking.com/boards/959633.jpg

You can find them online for pretty cheap, do a search for '39T0495', they typically run about $10.  You'll need to get a cable to run from the modem to the jack..

in this picture you can see the connector for the modem in the upper right:
http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/28024.jpg

The other side of the board has the MDC at the lower left of this image.
http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/28028.jpg

I haven't take one of these apart (yet), but it looks like that notch in the PCB is where the cable should wrap around.  This would void your warranty, but it would be fairly simple, finding the right cable might be a bit of work - if you have a good electronics supply store near you it shouldn't be too hard, all those connectors are standard, just have to get them on the right length of cable.

If I get to it I might remove the MDC from my x60 and test it out in the Eee just to see the results.

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#21 2007-11-05 4:04:12 am

phrekyos
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From: USA
Registered: 2007-10-16
Posts: 31

Re: Internal Modem???

I don't think those modem cards will work.  The EeePC has the newer standard, PCI express mini.  I haven't seen any 56k modems for that standard, only wireless cards so far.

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#22 2007-11-05 12:07:41 pm

RijilV
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2007-11-05
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Re: Internal Modem???

Ah take a look at the Eeepc board.  There is clearly a MDC (modem daughter card) connector at the bottom left next to the audio jacks in this picture:
http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/28028.jpg

That is the matching connector as the one shown on the card I posted above, there is even a video on the Lenovo site showing someone removing that card from an X60 and the card, plug, and two metal stand-offs are in the same place (located directly to the left of the MDC port and about 1" down and to the right).  Pretty sure that the card will physically fit and have the same electrical connectors.

I know that the Eee pc has a spare mini-pci-e slot, much like the X60, but the modem was intended to use the MDC port.  From what I looked into the interface on the Eee pc doesn't support anything besides a modem, other interfaces allow you to add modem+bluetooth card, so investigation about the MDC port is more academic to me than practical.

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#23 2007-11-05 3:54:00 pm

phrekyos
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From: USA
Registered: 2007-10-16
Posts: 31

Re: Internal Modem???

Ah, okay... on my old notebook my modem was located under a door where the PCIe mini slot is.

Well... I guess you might be able to add a modem after all, then.

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#24 2007-11-08 7:24:31 am

LMR17
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Registered: 2007-11-07
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Re: Internal Modem???

I'm confused...does the 3E have a 56K DUN modem or not? Has anyone got it to work with a 56K analog modem with either the Linux OS or Windows? WiFi, 3G and Enet are great but DUN over Analog phone line is a necessity for Internet in many places. Also, many remote process monitors are still phone connected to save on IP network costs. The 3E PC would be a great Remote connect platform if it will work with a Dial-Up Modem. Oh...and GREAT FORUM...you folks are at the head of the class. I'd love to buy today but 56K modem is a must.

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#25 2007-11-08 11:28:24 am

RijilV
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From: Seattle
Registered: 2007-11-05
Posts: 7
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Re: Internal Modem???

LMR17 wrote:

I'm confused...does the 3E have a 56K DUN modem or not?

No, the Eee PC has the physical connector for a phone line, an internal connector to run a cable to a standard MDC card, and a MDC card slot.  The Eee PC does not have anything installed in the MDC slot, and thus has no modem.


LMR17 wrote:

Has anyone got it to work with a 56K analog modem with either the Linux OS or Windows? WiFi, 3G and Enet are great but DUN over Analog phone line is a necessity for Internet in many places. Also, many remote process monitors are still phone connected to save on IP network costs. The 3E PC would be a great Remote connect platform if it will work with a Dial-Up Modem. Oh...and GREAT FORUM...you folks are at the head of the class. I'd love to buy today but 56K modem is a must.

I agree, and I think adding a modem to the Eee PC would be a simple process.   The Eee PC stock Linux install does come with drivers for USB modems if you are unwilling to void your warranty. 

As I have the appropriate MDC card already I will verify that it works this weekend.  Mind you I don't have a DUN service provider so I'm not going to test SLIP/PPP, but I will verify that I can issue AT commands and place the modem off hook and such.

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