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#1 2009-09-16 11:36:52 pm

Desert Fox
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First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

We've seen the led mods, but this one puts a spin on it. It's a proof of concept so it's not perfect, just a demonstration.

Here's the POC video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQ8uo7r1Qw

Here's the video with the eee put together http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2HKtjTQNVM

I need to reinsert the switch, it is awkward to position without drilling a hole through the case for it. Also, I haven't really taken any measurements and I'm not even sure how much resistance is required for this specific led. If anyone would like to take proper measurements (ie voltage) go ahead, this was just a quick and dirty 'sound reactive led' mod.

Hope you enjoy, there will be more smile

Schematic below, where USB is the MICRO AUDIO USB on the motherboard. Should work on all devices using this setup for audio.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4659/audiousb.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8284/schem.png

Last edited by Desert Fox (2009-10-27 6:23:39 pm)

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#2 2009-09-17 12:05:59 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

nice mang . what is the song you are playing ?


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#3 2009-09-17 12:07:46 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Really cool idea.. The only thing I'd change/add would be, put a LED by each speaker (2). I'd also make it more picky. Meaning, only let it go bright, with lower frequencies, not just over all sound.


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#4 2009-09-17 12:10:18 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

I said it in the video, I believe it is 'Brain Fingerprinting' by Blotted Science

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#5 2009-09-17 12:19:10 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

j.pocalypse wrote:

Really cool idea.. The only thing I'd change/add would be, put a LED by each speaker (2). I'd also make it more picky. Meaning, only let it go bright, with lower frequencies, not just over all sound.

Well the thing is that it is difficult to place the leds properly because of the motherboard position. I don't believe there is enough space to put in the speaker slots (if that is what you are saying) but do get stereo leds, that can be done if each speaker line was cut and included an led or two. Then you'd get the nice right and left ear effect but in light form big_smile.

As for lower frequencies, you mean full brightness on idle but with speaker power get dimmer? That's a pretty neat idea but I honestly wouldn't know how to do that. If you care to share I would implement it when I open the eee up again.

Once again this is a proof of concept and should have the potential for eye catchiness given good direction.

NOTE: the second video is being uploaded which shows is all together, and looks much nicer than the first.

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#6 2009-09-17 4:40:06 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Desert Fox wrote:

As for lower frequencies, you mean full brightness on idle but with speaker power get dimmer?

Just the opposite, actually. Thing is, you've already done more than I could ever have done. I'm not all that savvy with mods n' such.


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#7 2009-09-17 8:16:10 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

I'm going to try this on a 1005ha if/when I find room.

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#8 2009-09-17 10:47:23 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

@j.pocalypse

don't worry, it just takes patience, and trial and error. The hard part is actually being creative with it. But I see what you said, a higher resistance is needed to create that effect you're talking about. Right now it's only using a 330 ohm resistor, so I'd imgine ~700-1k ohms is sufficient.

@dcyli

Great to see I've inspired someone. Hope all goes well.

If you guys need schematics let me know and I'll go make some. I haven't confirmed how many leds you can safely hook up (nor the type of led) but my best guess for great power saving and have lots of lighting, maybe 4 or 5 would be ok in series, and probably about 6 for smt leds.

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#9 2009-09-17 2:44:34 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

what'd be really cool is if you added some filters and different color LEDs, so different frequencies would light different colors, like an old color organ.


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#10 2009-10-20 4:03:54 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Hey Desert Fox, do you think you can help me out? Im just about starting a project on my 1000HE and i wanted to add sound reactive LEDs, and you havent yet clearly put out in the open how you made the LEDs sound reactive, all you said you can make a schematic for those who are interested? If you are willing to help me out and show me how you made this, i will be more than happy to try and improve the design on the 1000he, and of course i will also cite you as credit on my post about my project im starting. Can you email me or PM me with some information?

My project thread
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=77996

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#11 2009-10-21 11:55:00 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

what'd be really cool is if you added some filters and different color LEDs, so different frequencies would light different colors, like an old color organ.

I cannot imagine this would NOT affect sound quality (I *assume* that the OP is wiring some LEDs in parallel to his speakers. Right?)
Since you are trying to mod a computer and not an empty wooden box you could maybe come up with some more technical then just wiring LEDs to some power source, maybe some kind of SOFTWARE to do the same thing? You could use an usb-> serial adapter to send out signals to your LED, or you could implement a small microcontroller too, and control it either via i2c or usb..

Otherwise very good idea. cool


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#12 2009-10-21 12:04:04 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Couldve sworn I saw something like this already.
Or that couldve been for the PSP. Same difference, lulz.

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#13 2009-10-21 2:25:24 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Sound reactive lights arent really anything new...applying them into a netbook...thats a definately a change to the old lol, ****.....even the new Kia Soul has sound reactive leds on their speakers lol


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#14 2009-10-21 6:21:16 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

They dont "react" to the sound though, dont they just get "powered" from the "sound" going through the speaker wiring?

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#15 2009-10-21 7:14:50 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

All led's need is a electrical current, speakers produce sound through electric current, attaching a led to that current thus makes the led light up depending on how much power the speakers are using, i can imagine that this could have a negative impact on the sound quality coming through the speakers since some of the juice is being hijacked to power the led


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#16 2009-10-22 1:41:10 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

I can imagine it will for sure affect sound quality, think voltage drop.. wink


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#17 2009-10-22 4:55:29 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

zeroanimated wrote:

All led's need is a electrical current, speakers produce sound through electric current, attaching a led to that current thus makes the led light up depending on how much power the speakers are using, i can imagine that this could have a negative impact on the sound quality coming through the speakers since some of the juice is being hijacked to power the led

Thats what I was trying to say. Didnt have the right wording, lulz.

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#18 2009-10-22 5:45:42 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

AlphaCentauri wrote:

I can imagine it will for sure affect sound quality, think voltage drop.. wink

Which is why i shouldnt just throw any ol LED on there, i need to find the lowest power consumption LEDs, and i need to find out how much juice is actually flowing to the speakers when on full volume.


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#19 2009-10-23 3:21:24 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

even low power LEDs have a voltage drop of at least 0.6V or something along those lines, every diode has. Overall max volume will be lower, resulting in calm audio parts to be simply cut off and not given out by the speakers anymore.
(still a good idea to use low power LEDs to not burn through your audio chipset smile)


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#20 2009-10-25 4:56:46 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

Transistor?


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#21 2009-10-25 5:43:49 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

AlphaCentauri wrote:

even low power LEDs have a voltage drop of at least 0.6V or something along those lines, every diode has. Overall max volume will be lower, resulting in calm audio parts to be simply cut off and not given out by the speakers anymore.
(still a good idea to use low power LEDs to not burn through your audio chipset smile)

The speakers I believe are 4 ohm, possibly 8.If the speakers are 4 ohm, and you used a 330ohm resistor in series with the LED, the load only drops down to 3.952 ohms, so I believe the chipset is pretty safe, as 2 speakers could easily vary by 0.048 ohms.I'm not saying this couldn't affect sound quality, but I do think it would be a pretty minor effect, judging by the ratio, but I could be mistaken. I plan to wire up an external circuit and investigate.

Incidentally, this is similar to the way many guitar distortion pedals work, except that there the diode output is fed back into the input


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#22 2009-10-25 9:44:59 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

@everyone

sorry for the late responses. I've detected no sound quality change whatsoever and it's a small led, non smd type. (sorry don't have exact specs since I pulled it out of another circuit.) If you work with smds then you'll have no problems and no voltage draw or audio failures.

and yes, this led is connected in parallel to the circuit. I will post up a schematic tomorrow since I'm flooded with homework right now.

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#23 2009-10-26 7:16:54 pm

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

sorry for double post but here is the schematic, can't get any more complicated than that smile (is not edited to the first post as well)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8284/schem.png

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#24 2009-10-27 6:17:58 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

how does it react to sound if its not electrically connected to the "sound circuit" at all? I just see a LED and resistor wired to usb v+ and gnd... neutral


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#25 2009-10-27 8:46:30 am

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Re: First Sound Reactive LED mod [POC]

@alpha

On the mobo of the eeepc, the solder pads of the audio usb connector are getting, I want to say varying, current. So I soldered on the actual shoulder pads of the connector, and made it easy for everyone not to cut wires from the speakers. I suppose a better schematic is needed then however I don't have a USB schematic component sad so it will look funky. Eh I'll think of something today, right now I have to go to class.

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