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#1 2009-04-30 11:03:44 pm

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DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

UNDER CONSTRUCTION:


OK THIS THREAD IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION: I am going to post pictures first and then work as I go. (should be done in a few days.)


- Get the Original Mod information Here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=39113

In simple terms:

this mod is easy to do
cost less than 2 bucks
can be done in 15 mins
Lowers your Heat by ~5*C
Lowers need for fan (with my eeectrl profile, the fan is off most of the time)
Removes Keyboard flexing (and "more responsive")

I first did the mod with Aluminum tin Foil, (7 layers), after seeing that it works, I just changed my foil with Copper Sheeting (a better heat conductor)

Hope you guys like it: big_smile

Uploading pictures as I type.... (you might see more addons when you refresh wink )


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01467.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01466.jpg
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http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01471.jpg

ta2cba wrote:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2004/2122724817_a3f13a1002_o.jpg

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01474.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01475.jpg
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http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01481.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01482.jpg
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http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01486.jpg


http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01488.jpg

^ I noticed that this must be the Atom CPU. I concluded that putting something to better get the heat from down there to of the keyboard mod would be a good thing big_smile

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01489.jpg

^ Scraps from the copper trimming should do the trick.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01492.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01493.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01494.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01499.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01500.jpg

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#2 2009-04-30 11:05:42 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Mailyfesux wrote:

Great guide!

Btw, you spelled DIY wrong big_smile

>.<

Lysdexics are Teople Poo tongue

(I could have sworn I double checked that big_smile, Thanks for pointing it out big_smile )


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#3 2009-04-30 11:07:40 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

*didn't use any tape, even scratched off the residue from the original adhesive inside of it big_smile


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#4 2009-05-01 12:49:51 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Cms, you're the best!

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#5 2009-05-01 4:02:17 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Cms wrote:

In simple terms:

this mod is easy to do
cost less than 2 bucks
can be done in 15 mins
Lowers your Heat by ~5*C
Lowers need for fan (with my eeectrl profile, the fan is off most of the time)
Removes Keyboard flexing (and "more responsive")

... here is my "story" and some thoughts? ...

I used TO-3 silicon heatpads for same purpose in my 900.
Something like these: http://parts.digikey.fi/1/1/52772-heatp … 10-05.html
I did try alumium sheet, one I bought was too thick, and I did not want to play whit household foil.
First I tried to find sheet of that silicon material, any of the suppliers around here did not have that in stock. You may find that from your local shop, but is it really needed to cover from side to side? So then I boght six of those TO-3 ones and placed them randomly under my keyboard.
They are 0,24€ per piece in one of the local eletronics shop, so low cost.
Easy to install, just drop them in place, less than one minute.
It did help whit the keyboard flex, do not know about heat, at least my keyboard feels warmer.
I think that these silicon pads are even better solution than solid metal foil, they are flexible.

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#6 2009-05-01 10:57:21 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Cool Mod, may have to try that when I have time, only think I would suggest to others is use a real flat head screw driver to remove the keyboard, not a serated knife, one slip, there goes your keyboard ribbon cable or your finger....

BTW OFF TOPIC, where did you get your skin?

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#7 2009-05-01 11:22:22 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01494.jpg

you' could do with some thermal paste there to help 'make' the connection between the copper and the ally


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#8 2009-05-01 12:09:32 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

This is so awesome.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/keyboard%20mod/DSC01481.jpg

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#9 2009-05-01 1:03:05 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Hey I had to try it big_smile


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#10 2009-05-01 3:44:17 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Cms, did you give any thought to taping the edges of your mod to make it spill resistant?

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#11 2009-05-01 5:01:12 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

iscstaff wrote:

Cms, did you give any thought to taping the edges of your mod to make it spill resistant?

Now that you mention it smile


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#12 2009-05-01 5:29:39 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

This mod is a bit crazy don't You think? If something from inside will touch the copper foli (cable etc.) it'll fry Your MoBo. Besides shouldn't keyboard holes be enough for ventilation and cooling system? If You're covering all holes, most heat will go not by keyboard, but by fan (at least in theory of long lasting usage).

I think it's too risky, but I'll be watching Your experiences. Who knows maybe You have a good idea smile.


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#13 2009-05-01 6:39:42 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Its not my idea tongue

The computer already has an aluminum shielding that is both to act as the cooling system and structure for the keyboard to rest on, though unfortunately (as you can see by the keyboard flexing when you press in the center), There is an extreamly small gap between the shielding and keyboard.

Aluminum is probably the 4th best heat conductor (I can think of: 1. Diamond 2.Silver 3.Copper 4. Aluminum)

With Copper, heat will better transfer from the motherboard to the top of the shielding, It will disperse amongst the entirety of the shielding rather than just one area.

Along with the dispersion, there will be more heat conductivity between the sheilding and the keyboard, The holes in the keyboard allow for fast passive cooling. The keyboard is metal too, thus, your not covering the holes, your providing more cooling surface area, thus, even more passive cooling tongue

I can tell you that there is defiantly more heat coming from the keyboard now smile

My fan is off most of the time now. (I run 43-50*C now, Used to run 50-55*C) I am very pleased.


The Original Aluminum shielding prevents anything from touching the motherboard, there is no risk of the copper getting into anything wink


How hot does your netbook get, try using HWmonitor smile

Last edited by Cms (2009-05-01 6:41:37 pm)


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#14 2009-05-01 8:32:42 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

How does this method compare to thermal tape?

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#15 2009-05-01 9:11:45 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

more metal = more thermal conductivity

If you put thermal tape and sheeting, I would expect improved results smile


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#16 2009-05-02 1:34:51 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Here's my thermal tape fix-rock solid kb now and better heat sinking as well.

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php? … 42#p560042

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#17 2009-05-02 5:52:24 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

@Cms
Hmm, seems resonable enough smile.
How about cutting holes in aluminum shilelding where chipset and CPU are and sticky (with a  thermal tape of course) a bit of copper to the foli in those areas so that it will touch the chipset and CPU after covering the aluminum for even better result.
It would then work exacly as radiator with thermal paste (those pieces could also be covered with this).

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2038/coolingsystem.png


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#18 2009-05-02 9:12:07 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

mthr1 wrote:

http://www.teamwetworks.com/mother/DSC01476.JPG

I put some circles to show where the heat is coming from:
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/DSC01476.jpg

OK this how I think it is moving heat:
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/CMStudio/coolingsystem.jpg


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#19 2009-05-02 10:14:13 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

I'm also concerned about battery cable. Why some1 just didn't connect it directly without such a long cable (why not to put right into the battery connector). It would also improve EeePC cooling.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7959/battconector.png

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#20 2009-05-02 2:42:58 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

malloth wrote:

I'm also concerned about battery cable. Why some1 just didn't connect it directly without such a long cable (why not to put right into the battery connector). It would also improve EeePC cooling.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7959/battconector.png

More cable = more resistance = lowers voltage

shorter cable = less resistance = higher voltage

It was probably done to slightly tweak the voltage down. (probably tongue)

I agree with you though, that does seam kinda stupid big_smile


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#21 2009-05-02 3:21:19 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

IMHO this scale is to small for this rule to apply.
If we'd be talking about 20 cm of cable then I'd agree with You, but here's only about 5-6cm max.
Besides isn't it much easier to just adapt a proper battery instead of a wire? (wire costs while You still need to buy the battery)

Anyway if You'd open Your case someday for more mods and having a voltage measure tool under Your hand, would You please write down the voltage and post the result?


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#22 2009-05-05 9:32:05 am

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Good work CMS.

Cant beleive I have not seen this thread until now.

I did something a bit different to your mod though; I used thermal tape (.8mm) to stick copper to the keyboard. And I didnt just put thermal tape in 5 or 6 places, I covered the whole underside of the keyboard in thermal tape/paste.

From this point, I applied a good thick layer of alluminum foil. In the end it looked really nice actually lol. my keyboard is alot heavier though.

My results:

1. Much better typing experience
2. CPU sits around 36-40 degrees at room temp of 24-27 degrees. (no load)

I have also put thermal tape and aluminum foil inside the hard drive bay and on my ram....its very shiny inside my HE now days hehe the improvement here however was only about 2 degrees.

In my 900 I had thermal paste and aluminum foil INSIDE the thing. I took it appart and stuck it everywhere. Combined with the keyboard mod, the 900 operated at 40 degrees (much better than 60+). So anyone who has doubts about the alluminum/copper mod actually making a difference to temps, beleive me, IT WORKS.

-Edot smile


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#23 2009-07-06 12:05:32 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Hi,

I must admit, this mod seems **** at first, but the testimonials makes me want to try it.
I mean exclusively for the temperature benefit.

I don't find that my Eee pc keyboard is laggy anyhow.

Has someone tried it on 1000HE?

Cms, what is your Eee PC model?

In addition, I must precise that the air gap that we're looking to fill acts as a thermal insulator (not good here).
Styrofoam which is largely used for insulation is made of millions of tiny air gaps.

Thanks

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#24 2009-07-06 1:26:16 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Olograph wrote:

Hi,

I must admit, this mod seems **** at first, but the testimonials makes me want to try it.
I mean exclusively for the temperature benefit.

I don't find that my Eee pc keyboard is laggy anyhow.

Has someone tried it on 1000HE?

Cms, what is your Eee PC model?

In addition, I must precise that the air gap that we're looking to fill acts as a thermal insulator (not good here).
Styrofoam which is largely used for insulation is made of millions of tiny air gaps.

Thanks

Olograph

Mine is a 1000he

were not insulating, were "exolating" (I guess would be the right term) were moving heat instead of containing it wink

Dont use Styrofoam smile

technicaly the air under the keyboard is supposed to be "moving" because of the fan, but from the temperature ratings, allocating more air flow through the motherboard while the keyboard uses conductive cooling is a more efficient design smile

Last edited by Cms (2009-07-06 1:30:04 pm)


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#25 2009-07-06 4:21:15 pm

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Re: DIY Mod- Keyboard Cooling and Anti-flex Mod, Updated for the 1000x's

Cms wrote:

exolating

Dissipating ??

Cms wrote:

Dont use Styrofoam smile

Man, of course not!

I was talking in the idea of how the air gap is bad and why we're trying to eliminate it here.

Hey I just had an idea, some were saying that the foil was keeping the heat inside.
Well the Keyboard holes aren't there for nothing for sure.

With the foil we want to fill that gap in order to promote heat conductivity.

Well, who said we couldn't make holes in the foil so we'll have both max heat conductivity and max ventilation???

Cms wrote:

technicaly the air under the keyboard is supposed to be "moving" because of the fan, but from the temperature ratings, allocating more air flow through the motherboard while the keyboard uses conductive cooling is a more efficient design smile

Thoughts: Ok let's say that without the foil the keyboard is sitting on air flow. Heat conduction from a metal to an air flow is less than direct metal to metal conduction.

Thanks

Last edited by Olograph (2009-07-06 4:21:34 pm)


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