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#1 2008-11-18 6:02:06 pm

jamarimutt
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Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Hi, first post from a newbie. ;-)

I bought a 900 recently which came with a 4GB SSD drive. I really like this little PC! However, as is, the PC comes with the disk 96% full and, although I am using a SD card to store files, the free space continues to decrease slowly.

The eee came with a number of programs which I don´t care for (for example the games and most of the learning applications) and would like to remove. However, I tried once using add/remove and ended up with a black screen after rebooting. I had to restore the machine in order to continue using it.

So, the question is, how to safely get rid of a number of programs to free up some disk space?

Thanks for your time,

Jamarimutt

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#2 2008-11-18 6:58:20 pm

BillW50
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Well I can't think how you did that, unless you removed something to do with the OS like the video driver or something. Under Start and Programs, a lot of programs also has an uninstall shortcut there too. Maybe this will be safer for you. Have you turned off your pagefile if you have 1GB or more RAM (and deleted the file after a reboot), disabled hibernation (also removed file), and lower the cache for IE too to give you more room?


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2 Asus EEE PC 702G8/G16 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
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#3 2008-11-18 9:06:31 pm

jamarimutt
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Hi, my eee came with Xandros Linux. I have not added or removed anything from it, the disk is already 96% full when the computer is turned on the first time.

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#4 2008-11-18 9:54:24 pm

BillW50
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Oh ok. My 700 series (five of them) has 1.7GB free stock with Linuux 4G SSD. I wonder why yours is so full? Hopefully somebody knows the answer to that one and replies back. I can't find anything in Wiki either about making more room either. sad


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#5 2008-11-19 12:49:54 am

langbein
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

If the one mentioned in the original post has only one drive that is 4 GB (?) it could be made quite small and fast making an nlitement according to procedure mentioned as sticky at the top of this forum.

After following the instructions, and removed some less software than recomended,  I ended up with a XP installation that was approx 1 GB and that booted in 20 seconds. After uppgrading an adding all kind of software it now fills 2.5 GB, but it is still some space left before 4 GB. Boot time has now decreased to 40 seconds, but the PC is still quite fast for all ordinary use.

If I had a 4 MB modell I would have made a 1 Gig XP installation, and possibly some other basic programs and saved one restore image of this installation. If the installation started to grow to much, I would just reinstall the original 1 Gig installation. (Hirens boot CD on USB stick works perfect for such use.)

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#6 2008-11-19 6:38:33 am

BillW50
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Umm langbein... jamarimutt said they were using Xandros and not Windows.


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1 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8/G16 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
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#7 2008-11-19 7:17:41 am

ZilverZurfarn
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

As long as you keep the (imo stupid) unionfs, uninstalling apps won't do you no good, as the space they occupied can't be reclaimed.
Take a look at the wiki for how to remove unionfs first.

/Zilver


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#8 2008-11-19 2:43:37 pm

jamarimutt
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

According to the owner´s manual, the programs installed on the SSD HD cannot be removed by the user, so this explains why the add/remove programs option does not work. It only seems to work with programs that you download and then decide to delete. Having 96% of the disk full when turning the computer on for the first times does not sound right, and if you install the updates that download automatically, the disk fills to over 99%! Resetting the computer brought the total back to 96%.

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#9 2008-11-20 6:18:39 am

kgha
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

I find this very strange! Must confess that I don't understand in detail how asus/xandros reports disk usage. But when I use the function "Disk Utility" it says that "system" occupies 2.3 GB (I guess that's the sda1 partition that normally isn't reachable for editing) and "Used" is another 2.5 GB of which my personal files is 1.8GB and the rest newly installed programs (e.g.OO3)

So a fresh reinstall ought to end you up with 2.3 GB of a total of 4 available: 58 % or so.

But it is possible to "get at" the sda1 partition and remove unwanted programs. The risk is that you ruin something vital, but if you prepare a reinstall  USB stick you can always come back to where you started. I haven't tried it myself, but I understand that you can use either of these three options:

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:installre … gle%20user

(see also the links at the end for further tweaking, e.g. "Uninstall programs from factory OS")

or

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:makechang … ?s=unionfs

or

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:removeunionfs?s=unionfs

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#10 2008-12-02 12:06:17 pm

Hull
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Can anyone explain how to delete the unwanted automatic updates sent out by ASUS?  I have 7 updates that are downloaded but not installed.  I don't want most  of them and would like to delete them but can't figure out how.  Am complete amateur when it comes to using Linux so any help needs to be idiot-proof- thanks.

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#11 2008-12-02 3:05:36 pm

jamarimutt
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Hull wrote:

Can anyone explain how to delete the unwanted automatic updates sent out by ASUS?  I have 7 updates that are downloaded but not installed.  I don't want most  of them and would like to delete them but can't figure out how.  Am complete amateur when it comes to using Linux so any help needs to be idiot-proof- thanks.

Interestingly, these updates (downloaded but not installed) seem to take little disk space, if any. Thus, they don´t worry me, except for the nagging reminder everytime the computer is turned on.

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#12 2008-12-02 11:29:43 pm

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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

I also just recently got a 4GB Xandros 900 and I have all the same problems as the OP. It's absolutely ridiculous that they'd ship these out like this; you do the simplest update or download and your measly 400MB of allocated Read/Write space is gone. Just doing a single system update ate up 100MB.

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#13 2008-12-04 1:06:37 am

ishi26
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

I agree that the automatic updates cause much grief with 900A 4GB SSD.
Here is a hack that I did to make my 4GB SSD not be filled up with these updates.

1. Boot using F9 to restore to factory settings.
2. Accept license and enter stuff as required. Do not connect to internet. Remove cable or whatever.
3. Open an xterm i.e., Ctrl-Alt-t
4. At the prompt enter sudo su
5.  cd /opt/xandros/bin
6.  mv UpdatesApplet UpdatesApplet-old
7. mv UpdateSerive UpdateService-old
8. exit
9. exit
10. Now reboot your machine with the usuall Settings > Instant Shutdown ...

Now you have disabled the Automatic Update Service and your tiny 4GB should stay yours to decide what to put on it.

Note that you will miss out on updates, but with such tiny space left you really don't have much choice.

There are probably other ways to achieve this but this works for me and saved my 900A 4GB from being a door stop.

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#14 2008-12-04 1:53:23 am

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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

as soon as I reinstalled the system I disabled the automatic downloads (the thing is still there in the  bar though).  Then, I switched to advanced mode and used synaptic to clear out star office, stock games and other junk. I'm going to switch to ubuntu some time soon, once they get their wifi issues fixed (which should be soon, atheros just went open source with their chipset code). Oh, and get a 8 GB SLC drive once they get a bit cheaper.


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#15 2008-12-22 3:23:48 pm

lisaeee
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

I just recently got a eee 901 loaded with linux (xandros) and can sympathize with jamarimutt.  Out of the box, the root disk is full.  When I look at the partition table the first disk, sda is a 3.9 GB disk; 3 GB for linux and a 1 GB  windows partition.  There is a second 16 GB disk that's mounted for the homedir.  That's just crappy.  I'd expect one 20 GB disk.   I plan on making a boot partition on the second drive and moving everything over there.  Then I can boot off sdb and will have plenty of space to grow.  It's a shame that it is being sold like this. Even if you decide to get rid of some of the apps, you're just going to have to face the same problem down the road.  I can't imagine wanting to delete sOffice.  I'm going to have to load additional libraries, vpn client, etc, etc. Also, it won't recognize my iPhone on the USB port.  But now I digress off topic......

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#16 2008-12-22 4:15:31 pm

ZilverZurfarn
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

IMO, you're all wrong. And right. 4 GB for Linux is more than adequate. (BTW,  why "expect" a 20 GB disk? The 20 GB eee has always had one 4GB and one 16 GB.)
My now half year old system, my complete OS + applications is 1.8 GB and I have by no means been conservative with what I have installed.
However, to allow for future excesses, I've moved /usr over to a 8 GB partition of the 16 GB ssd (this is included in the 1.8 GB total above). So, basically I have sda1 with 88% free, sdb1 (/usr) with 80% free. I'm the first to throw stones at Asus for deciding on Xandros, but things are easily remedied by installing a more std Linux distribution like Ubuntu. With Xandros, it will work fine as long as you use it like Asus expects you to - as an appliance. As soon as you want something Asus didn't include in the base system, you're in deep .... er... trouble, and are better off making the switch to another OS.

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#17 2008-12-22 4:21:12 pm

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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

lisaeee wrote:

There is a second 16 GB disk that's mounted for the homedir.  That's just crappy.  I'd expect one 20 GB disk.   I plan on making a boot partition on the second drive and moving everything over there.  Then I can boot off sdb and will have plenty of space to grow.  It's a shame that it is being sold like this.

you may not be happy with this decision: the secondary SSD (MLC) is significantly slower than the primary SSD (SLC)


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#18 2008-12-22 5:13:38 pm

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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Molly wrote:

the secondary SSD (MLC) is significantly slower than the primary SSD (SLC)

Correct, if you're the kind of drive speed measurement type. I have had Ubuntu installed on both the 4GB ssd and the 16 GB "slow" ssd - and I can really tell no difference what so ever in daily use.

/Zilver


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#19 2009-01-04 12:01:46 pm

BillW50
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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

Actually I believe you *will* notice the speed difference when writing to the SSD. As MLC are much slower as they have to erase a block before writing to it. While SLC only has to write to it. And the OS and running applications doesn't normally write a lot. For example, I can run for 8 hours and the OS and applications barely goes over 100MB worth of writes. Although you can write a lot with data, pagefile, hibernation, etc.


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1 Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
2 Asus EEE PC 702G8/G16 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows 2000 SP4 ~ Windows XP SP2 ~ Windows 7 RC ~ Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)

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#20 2009-01-04 12:54:42 pm

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Re: Disk almost full- how to erase unwanted programs

That is just horrible, the even sell EEE PC's with only 4GB HD...  They will probably stop installing them for the 8GB later this year...


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