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#1 2008-07-04 1:28:00 pm

ilcarolader
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Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

As you may have experienced, keyboard seems to be one of the most critical point in the eeepc: when you try to write long texts, sometime some key  do not respond as they should. As a result you may be continously  obliged to fix missing letters, which will drive you terribly nervous after some time.

Actually, my first eee 701 had no issues under this point of view; howewer when I got my brand-new eeepc 900 I suddently figured out that keyboard quality was pretty poorer than in the previous model. Maybe this depends upon the  variable quality standard of the assembly of Asus.

Anyway, here is how you can try to fix. It worked for me.

1- Remove your keyboard by pressing towards the screen the 3 thin metal staples (hope it's the right word in English for them) that you can see right over the F1, F6 and F12 keys. You should be then able to remove the keyboard by picking it up from its upper side and letting it shifting towards the screen.

2 - You shoud have a roll of masking tape now -- that kind of adhesive tape used in house painting: just cover the keyboard back side with 2 or 3 strips.

3 - Put the keyboard back in its place, making sure the 3 metal fasterner will block it correctly.

That's all. My text now have all their letters (if you find some in this text, please note that I am writing it with my iMac).

Warning: covering with tape the back side of your keyboard may perhaps interfere with the cooling of your eeepc. I don't know if this is the case -- my eee is appearently working with no trouble.

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#2 2008-07-06 12:28:33 pm

Bourdon
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Hi! Thanks for share the tip!

Does Anybody else tried this? Some Cooling Diferences reported until now?

Because i feel that problem... tongue and when it works i will make the same

Thanks


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#3 2008-07-07 6:36:51 pm

mukherjs
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

I would be interested to know if anyone else has tried this. I have the same problem with some keys not working with a normal touch.

My eeePC 900 is usually on for about 15 hours a day, so gets quite warm. Has anyone noticed a significant increase in temperature with the masking tape mod?


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#4 2008-07-07 7:25:20 pm

mukherjs
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

I used some paper post it notes and now my keyboard feels much better. I'm thinking tomorrow I might replace the paper with some aluminium foil, should conduct better.


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#5 2008-07-14 10:50:12 am

dannyboy1121
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

This is great. I've had some real issues with my 701 .... every time I type something I find myself going back through the text plugging in the missing letters. The space bar was only responsive right in the centre and the keys to the far left and right had to be hit top down and in the centre of the key.

It was driving me nuts!!!

So I googled and came across this thread. I wasn't happy putting tape across the whole of the keyboard because I imagine that some heat dissipates through that route ... so I put an inch of duck tape down the side of the left and the right (three layers deep). It's made a massive improvement. The space bar is still a bit **** if you hit it at the last centimetre of either end but I'm willing to live with that for the moment.

Hope this helps anyone with similar concerns.

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#6 2008-07-17 4:10:47 pm

Rafael_RS
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Hi everyone.

I'm brazilian, so sorry about english.

I'm ow a black eeePC and I have this same kind of problem. I'm always coming back to fill the missing letters. And this is annoying.

So Ill try this trick. Can anyone post some pictures of it? Just to make things easier for a newbie user like me.

Thanks!

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#7 2008-07-19 11:01:57 pm

Sava
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

screenshot:

i don't have duck tape, so im using post it notes as mukherjs mentioned. it works quite well. the keys seems to be responsive okay now (look at the below re-typed text i was testing). Most wrongly typed text was because of the size of the keys and my hand's quite big for 'em.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/enmontreal/epckb.jpg






test text (after applied):

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as you may have experienced, keyboard seems to be one of the most critical point in the eeepc: when you try to write long texts, sometime some key do not respond as tey should. As a result you may be contioyusly obliged to fix missing letters, which will drive you terribly nervous after some time

remove your keyboard by pressing towards the scree the 3 thin meal stables that you can seee right over the F1, F6, and F12 keys. You should then be able to remove the keyboad by pcvking it up from its upper side an letting it shifting towards the sccreen

yu should have a roll of masking tabpe now, that kid of adhesive tape used in house paiting, just cover the keyboad back side with 2 or 3 strips.

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#8 2008-07-20 12:28:44 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Ok. Thanks for the screenshot.

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#9 2008-07-27 2:59:13 pm

TitaniumBarbell
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Im trying with this method and don't work for me. Im using dock tape. First I use 4 big strips, now, I have 2 small strips right now but the letter "c" and "d" need to be hard press.

Any suggestions will be appreciated!


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#10 2008-07-30 4:51:32 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Find out where the keyboards bows worst and apply a thick layer there. They goal of this method is to reduce the bending of the keyboard, as it floats in its spot and bends down under the fingers when typing, increasing the required travel of the fingers to longer than expected, thus resulting in missed letters even though the correct key was pressed. I haven't tested this yet but I'm guessing applying a spacer material to some specific locations should be enough to make a difference. Just make sure that the layer of tape is thick enough to work as padding. I don't think it needs to cover very large areas. The left and right edges don't feel like they bend much, and neither does the top, so concentrate on the middle for starters.


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#11 2008-07-31 7:00:59 am

Hela
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

thx for the trick ilcarolader!
btw i used another way:
i've taken an alluminum paper (that one for kitchen)
i fold it three times and cutted following the shape of the keyboard (so a rectangle) and simply put it under the keyboard
it needed only cutting where there's the connector (beetween the space bar and alt button).
i'll try to take a picture soon!

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#12 2008-07-31 12:55:35 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

does this actually work


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#13 2008-07-31 1:02:28 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

I suggest you keep the WSDE - FGHTV - KILOJ areas free, thats where the CPU - North bridge and south bridge are, they get quite hot, and paper will only block the ventilation as many people have said.
Ill give it a go though.


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#14 2008-09-02 7:07:58 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Have you ever reflected over how placing tape there could have any effect whatsoever ?

The original poster is probably ROTFLOL'ing all over the place now.

Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud that is.

On the other hand placing stuff (tape or dots of glue) under the space bar to improve on missed space chars really helps.


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#15 2008-09-09 8:02:48 pm

wavesinmc
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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Thank you for posting this helpful information. Things seem a lot better now.

I did want to point something out though....
I ended up using post it notes and I will tell you why. I am in America but I imagine most of our masking tape and duct tape is made in China so this information could be helpful to those of you in other countries as well.

I can't speak for duct tape, but in the past I have had unfortunate messes because of masking tape. I have had the adhesive glue part of the masking tape melt onto other surfaces when in the sun or warm weather making the sticky part of the tape very hard to remove!

Not that we would be removing the masking tape from under our keyboards, but what if the adhesive melts under there (the keyboard) and creates a mess by getting into the computer itself.

Maybe I am just a worrier, but for now I would stick with post it notes or foil. I would hate to see someone's Eee ruined because of poor-quality tape. For those of you who have English as a second language, I hope my post makes sense. Again, many thanks for the idea and the nice photo.

Last edited by wavesinmc (2008-09-09 8:22:08 pm)


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#16 2008-09-28 7:15:47 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

gave it a shot and it seemed to be a little bit more responsive.   Thanks!

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#17 2008-09-28 11:18:07 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

there is another mod that would not require you to put stickers and it works, its in the link at the bottom of my signature

^^


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#18 2008-09-29 11:06:56 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Darkime wrote:

there is another mod that would not require you to put stickers and it works, its in the link at the bottom of my signature

^^

The pictures are wonderful, thanks for posting the link smile


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#19 2008-12-31 5:29:14 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Great trick, thanks a lot, very helpful on my 900a!

I cut out a double-H-shaped piece from a (very) thin white foam-like foil used for wrapping small (electronic) devices and put it in without glue. Works great and has a positive effect on typing acoustics, too.

Will have an eye on temperature, though.

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#20 2008-12-31 3:45:55 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

the first posting I saw on this topic, several months ago, used 10 or 12 layers of aluminum foil cut to fit the keyboard tray, on the theory that it would impede cooling less.

When I got around to trying it I just cut a shape out of a piece of ordinary laser printer paper to fit, then cut several more. I tried with 3 and it was better (but not yet what I'd call good) so I added 3 more. that was so thick the retaining clips wouldn't fasten, so I took out one and now use 5.

the keyboard definitely FEELS better--now nice and tight and much less sloppy. but I still have a few keys that are definitely flaky, though less so than before. At least for my keyboard, I don't think this technique will totally solve the problem, but it has helped.

As for whether it affects cooling or not, I can't tell. My guess is that, since the cooling fan is below the keyboard tray, that most of the cooling happens on that side rather than on the top.

I'm running Fedora 10 on my 901, and so far haven't been able to get lm-sensors working, so I can't really present any systematic/scientific evidence.

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#21 2009-01-01 8:53:43 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Thanks for the advice ilcarolader. How did you realize that?


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#22 2009-05-31 8:03:52 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

I've got another issue that you guys may be able to help with. My EEE PC 900's keyboard is completely wonkers. After I spilled a glass of water over it, let it dry for a few days, the keyboard reacts like keys are pressed twice or like other keys are also pressed down. At the XP log in prompt if I start typing two dots appear per character pressed. Also pressing the backspace will delete one or two dots, but then new dots appear...

If I plug in an external USB keyboard, that works fine.

I tried removing and replugging the keyboard, but to no avail.

Any tips to save this one? Keyboards are not sold separately and somehow I think the water spilling incident won't be covered by warranty.

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#23 2009-05-31 8:42:08 am

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

I would let it dry even more. I've had this happen to regular keyboards and sometimes, three days is not enough. Take the actually keyboard off (as directed in this post? or somewhere) very carefully. Use qtips to blot up any moisture you see hanging around. Then leave the whole thing apart for even more time. It may come back. But using it (electric going through it while damp) won't help. I had a normal keyboard take a very long time to dry out...it just needed more time than I was giving it. Glad it's just water ;0 you may be in luck! Best wishes.


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#24 2009-11-15 2:42:41 pm

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Re: Improving the eeepc keyboard responsivness

Hey Guys,

Thanks for this mod and the pictures. It worked for me...

Concerning the heat problem, some guys suggested to us e ALuminiumfoil, but the problem with that is that the thikness is very small. I found a better solution:

I used the kind of aluminium tape, that is often used to fit alu chimney pipes together. You can get it in every consturction market and it is 5 times as thick as aluminium foil. Another advantage is that the glue on the backside of the tape is heat resistant...

Succes with this tip..

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