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OK, I've made some progress. I happened to have a 4GB Sandisk Cruzer USB stick to hand, so I tried using pe2usb to format it and install BartPE on it. It worked perfectly. I had to accept using 64KB clusters (or some such, I can't quite recall!) but it just worked. So I added the Acronis back up of my C: drive that I had made (I had already installed the Acronis BartPE plugin) and I'm good to go!
The next trick is therefore to do the same thing with an SD card as it is just so much handier to throw a card in the bottom of the ASUS carry bag. Maybe the way to do it is to image the USB stick to the SD card. I'll order one up and report back on my success (or failure!)
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What ever you did to the sandisk cruzer do the same to the sd card and it will work. Was your 900 a xp verision or linux? If it was a xp verision burn the winpe.iso to a disk or mount it using a image drive and try the ghost.exe file. Just copy and paste the exe to a folder in your bartpe usb stick or sd card. You may like it. It is a good imaging tool also bartpe has drive snapshot built in copy and paste the newest verision into snapshot folder also a very good imaging tool.
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jaygrip wrote:
What ever you did to the sandisk cruzer do the same to the sd card and it will work.
Let's hope so! From reading the 911CD.net forum it is clear that booting from USB devices is far from straightforward and what works on one device may not work on another.
My 900 is a Linux version which I bought to get the 16 GB SSD rather than the 12 GB one of the XP version and I then installed XP Home OEM. I presume the file winpe.iso to which you refer is the image file used to restore an XP machine using ghost.exe on the restore CD? What I have done is set up my C: drive with the various apps I use (MS Office, Skype, Slingplayer, Firefox, Powertoys, etc) and then used Acronis (version 8.0 is available free from Acronis and it does all I need) to make an image of the C: drive. I have added the Acronis plugin to my BartPE build, and copied the C: drive image to the USB stick, so I can now do a complete restore of my C: from the USB stick, and hopefully from an SD card in the very near future!
Now if only I could do this with my Toshiba M200 which also has an SD card slot.
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You should have no problems on the eee bootng from a sd card. I bought my 16 gig buy mistake. Thought it was a 12 gig. I didn't want to pay restocking fees so I kept it. I have imaged my 701 many times with baptpe and drive snapshot never tried Acronis but I have read about it on this forum. seems a lot of people like it. Ghost is the imaging software asus uses on the 16gig it has it's uses.
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Well, things didn't work out quite as planned. While my eee 900 will boot from a 4 GB USB stick, it will not boot from a 4 GB SD card! I bought a Transcend 4 GB SDHC card (I was looking for an ordinary 4 GB SD, i.e. not SDHC, but couldn't find one in my local store), used pe2usb to format it and write the BartPE iso and all went well, except that the 900 won't boot from it. This wasn't entirely unexpected as I had read somewhere that SD cards over 2GB needed to be partitioned to make a 2GB partition to boot from. So it's back to the drawing board to find out how to partition the card so that both partitions can be accessible as the reason for using the larger card is to be able to include an Acronis image of my C: drive for an emergency restore.
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Success! Despite not being able to boot from the 4 GB SD card after having used pe2usb, in the course of trying various suggestions given to me by those fine folks over at the 911CD.net forum (see http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php? … p;p=149188 for the link to the thread discussion), I tried pe2usb again and this time it worked! I can only conclude that I didn't give it enough time first time around to start loading the RAMDISK.
So now I have my 4 GB SD card with BartPE plus an Acronis image of my C drive lying in my bag ready for disaster to strike. Now if only I could get the same trick to work with my Toshiba.
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BartPE boot from USB:
very easy with the 900eee
Acronis is superflous
with a huge bloated footprint
1 create a separate hdd partition on the 2nd solid state drive
2 write BartHDD install to said partition
3 format flash drive as NTFS (use HP USB format utility)
4 copy files from BartHDD partition to USB flash drive
5 make USB flash drive active
6 shuffle USB to top of HDD list in BIOS
7 Shuffle USB flash drive to top in Boot priority list
8 VIOLA
9 Restore D: to its original condition
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So what is your final conclustion sjdigital?
Post #15 works good for SD card? I'd like to do the same. Great idea. I now will probably do this on a USB flash drive too, and keep BartPE along with several images for my multiple PC's. Great idea.
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For those of you having BSOD 0x0000007B try the modified NTDETECT.COM as mentioned in Q3/A3:
http://www.msfn.org/board/FAQs-t116766.html
This usually solves the issue.
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StewFaq wrote:
BartPE boot from USB:
very easy with the 900eee
Acronis is superflous
with a huge bloated footprint
BartPE will not restore your C: drive on its own: you need an image of the drive, plus the appropriate plugin in BartPE so that you can write the image to the C: drive
in order to restore it. I use Acronis because I happen to have it to hand, but Ghost would do just as well.
StewFaq wrote:
1 create a separate hdd partition on the 2nd solid state drive
2 write BartHDD install to said partition
What is BartHDD install? I was referring to BartPE
StewFaq wrote:
3 format flash drive as NTFS (use HP USB format utility)
4 copy files from BartHDD partition to USB flash drive
I don't believe that you can make the USB drive bootable using the HP format tool and then simply copy over the BartPE files as they require the Server 2003 files I referred to above in order to boot from USB, whether stick or SD card.
StewFaq wrote:
5 make USB flash drive active
6 shuffle USB to top of HDD list in BIOS
7 Shuffle USB flash drive to top in Boot priority list
In the 900 boot menu you don't shuffle items up and down - you just select the boot disk you want to use
StewFaq wrote:
8 VIOLA
That would be Voila, I presume, and not a musical instrument? And how exactly will all this restore the C: drive?
StewFaq wrote:
9 Restore D: to its original condition
Do you mean D; or C:?
htwingnut wrote:
So what is your final conclusion...post #15 works good for SD card?
Yep, it all works great. If you follow the steps in post #15 using an SD card it will work just fine. And if you want to PM me I can send you the Windows Server 2003 files to save you the hassle of extracting them from the very large Server 2003 download.
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I tried as you suggested, but when loading I get a RAMDISK error 16. How big is your .iso on your flash drive? Mine is like 615MB or so. Is this the issue? Do I need to nLite to get a much smaller file?
I am beginning to think this may go back to the old DOS days of conventional memory restraints?
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I don't have my eee, nor the SD boot disk, with me on my travels at the moment but my recollection is that the BartPE .iso only amounts to about 160MB. But when I tried this with UBCD4Win I ended up with an .iso of around 650-700MB and it wouldn't work. I seem to recall it was a RAMDISk error and I concluded that it was too big to run from the USB/SD device.
But when you talk about using nLite I wonder it you are trying to put Win XP on the flash drive? I was only putting BartPE, plus an Acronis C: drive image, as BartPE would allow me to salvage any data files if the OS went down, and it would also write the image file to the C: drive to restore it in the event of total failure.
Last edited by sjdigital (2008-09-18 2:49:53 pm)
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For BartPE it asks for an existing version of Windows in order to generate BartPE. Maybe I'll try this evening without pointing it to WinXP?
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Yes, you need to have the XP CD, and not a restore CD. BartPE generates the boot files and the .iso image from which you can boot the eee and carry out repairs or, using the Acronis plugin, restore the C: drive from an Acronis image file on the same SD card. It's the perfect recovery solution and I only wish I could do the same trick with my Toshiba Tablet PC that also has an SD card slot, but it seems to be impossible
Last edited by sjdigital (2008-09-18 3:44:05 pm)
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Ok, I have an XP CD where I copied the contents to my hard drive and pointed it to that directory. The BartPE iso is well over 600MB, and won't load on bootup from the flash drive, I get the RAMDISK error.
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Hmmm, seems that when I go to add True Image Home 11 + Disk Director Suite with the plugin, it adds 300MB of data!!! Not sure why, but that's what is causing my install to be so big I think.
Here's the distribution of file sizes from Treesize Free:
http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?imag … tpemr3.jpg
Last edited by htwingnut (2008-09-18 10:14:11 pm)
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My I386 folder is 150 MB, I have only about 90 MB of files in my System 32 folder and my program folder is 12.5 MB. So it looks like True Image is the culprit. I'm using Acronis 8.0 and it only takes up just over 11 MB in my program folder. Try doing a PE build with the True Image plugin and see how that works out.
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That IS the True Image Plugin! I added the plugin but you have to run the AutoHlp.cmd file in the plugin so you can add it to the CD (by enabling it under "plugin")
Did you verify your True Image and Disk Director program works with your BartPE? Perhaps Acronis 8.0 is a lot smaller for some reason. I'm using Mustang's plugin. Maybe I need to use the official Acronis one.
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Yes, I used the 'official' Acronis plug in. And once I have loaded BartPE, I can go to the Program folder (I can't remember exactly what it's called) and the Acronis executable is there. Double click on it and Acronis opens and I can navigate to the Acronis image on my SD card. I haven't actually tried to do a restore but I have no reason to suppose that it won't work just fine.
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Do you have True Image or only Disk Director loaded?
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I'm afraid that I don't even know what Disk Director is! I downloaded a free copy of Acronis True Image v.8, installed it on my eee 900 and used it to create the C: drive image file. I then used the Acronis plugin for BartPE so that when I built BartPE it includes Acronis True Image as one of the programmes available from the BartPE environment. I then used pe2usb to put BartPE onto a bootable SD card and then copied the Acronis image file to the SD card. More than that I cannot say as it all seemed very straightforward
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sjdigital wrote:
Thanks to all who responded and apologies for not getting round to checking all the suggestions out until now but boring things like work kept getting in the way! But the good news is that, yes, you can install Bart PE on the SD card and my eee PC 900 will boot from it much quicker than my Toshiba laptop will boot from a Bart PE CD. While all you need to know can be found via the links and suggestions above I thought it might be helpful to put together a layman’s guide based on this material for those who, like me, aren’t real well versed in DOS command line stuff.
OK, this is what you have to do: etc..............
Excellent. I have been following other methods of creating the BartPE on either the usb thumb drive or sdcard, but so far this is the procedure that yielded positive results, always. No buts or ifs. And to the credit of pebuilder, the facility to embed other routines is a very big plus. I have plugged-in disk explorers and backup applications, e.g. acronis true image and driveimage xml. All of these functionalities in only a 256mb sdcard! Whoa...
Thanks sjdigital, you have made my day. Cheers.
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Glad you found my efforts helpful. It really is neat to be able to carry a full repair and restore capability on a single bootable SD card.
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