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#1 2008-06-16 12:22:36 pm

AngryJohn
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Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

I snagged my Linux installed EeePC 900 last Friday and have spent the entire weekend trying to enable Japanese Language Input without success. Numerous Factory resets.
 
I've tried everything suggested at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=857,

from there did 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and installed the two J-language choices,

from there ran 'scim -d' and went into "SCIM Setup" and made sure everything was as it should be according to posted suggestions and instructions.

The problem is that the Japanese input method never appears as a choice on when I right click on the input method selection icon......still only ever chinese.


I'm totally kicking myself for not ordering the XP version, but really only need this J-language input to be up and running to have everything I need in place.

Anything I'm missing here?

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#2 2008-06-16 2:48:44 pm

AngryJohn
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Ha! I got the J-input working ! 

Followed the steps numbered 1-4 listed by Pi at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=33458, then followed the instructions listed by elbeco at http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=283670.

The gcin input method icon is of course gone from the menu bar, but the SCIM menu now appears on the ctrl+space command when I am in OOWriter with Japanese as an  option and all the appropriate keys for kanji conversion etc...son of a gun!

For a step by step recap:


1. Open up a terminal window from the "desktop" or "home" by pressing Ctrl-Alt-T or accessing it from the tab "Work" > File Manager >  Tools > Open Console Window.

2. sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list

3. Add the following as a third line to the sources.list file:

deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

Save and exit.

4. Back in the command line terminal window, type the following command and press Enter:

sudo apt-get update 

Reboot (AngryJohn's action....just a hunch, nothing more)

5.  sudo apt-get install anthy scim-anthy im-switch kasumi ttf-kochi-gothic

6. sudo apt-get remove --purge gcin

7. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales

(choose ja_JP.UTF-8 and ja_JP.EUC-JP, leave english as system default)

8. im-switch -c

(Choose scim.)

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#3 2008-06-16 3:15:10 pm

cybeee
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Stopped kicking yourself, and starting to enjoy yourself now smile

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#4 2008-06-16 3:32:52 pm

AngryJohn
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Yes smile  Now I can concentrate on the shower faucet handle that came off in my hand Saturday ; spindle is not broken, but too short to get the thread started>

Anybody got any magic for that one....or the one broken hanger clip on the vertical blinds?  Ahhhhhahahahahahahaha! SkeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTSSSS!

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#5 2008-06-16 4:15:35 pm

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

We have replaced many handles of all kinds with a pair of locking pliers locked onto the spindle or whatever other stub is left.  This can enable one to use the device until a repair can be made, or provide a long term solution if one isn't fussy about the way things look. ( For a use in the shower, look for stainless steel locking pliers. wink )

I don't know the details of fixing your blinds but epoxy and twisted up paperclips will make a useful hook or hanger for many applications.


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The Original: Eee PC 701 4G Galaxy Black, running "out of the box" in Xandros Easy Mode since 12/07
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#6 2008-06-17 2:18:22 am

jimmers
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

I'm not a moderator here but I am pretty sure that this is in the wrong section!

yardcoyote wrote:

We have replaced many handles of all kinds with a pair of locking pliers locked onto the spindle or whatever other stub is left.  This can enable one to use the device until a repair can be made, or provide a long term solution if one isn't fussy about the way things look. ( For a use in the shower, look for stainless steel locking pliers. wink )

That is more suited for 'Hacks and Modifications' forum and...

yardcoyote wrote:

I don't know the details of fixing your blinds but epoxy and twisted up paperclips will make a useful hook or hanger for many applications.

Clearly belongs in 'Non-XP Windows Versions'!


Get up an antenna and listen!

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#7 2008-06-17 8:57:36 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

OMG!!  Someone with a sense of humor!!  Out the door...out... lol


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#8 2008-06-18 1:35:27 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Who let the non-geek in? big_smile Everyone knows that linux dudes (and dudettes 'cause I'm a gal) have absolutely no sense of humor/humour. Quick lock the door before any more of these people get in!  lol


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#9 2008-06-18 4:59:10 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Wow! This is the second time in my life where I wasn't lumped in with the 'geeks'. It's so exciting!


Get up an antenna and listen!

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#10 2008-06-18 1:31:37 pm

tnr3euser
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

AngryJohn, excellent to hear you've figured out your mystery for the 900.

To mods: Is it possible to change the title of this thread for other users looking to integrate J input onto their 900s? It might make it easier for others searching for a solution. I've read through a few posts where inquiring users have seemingly given up.

...and this topic got off topic REAL fast LOL


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#11 2008-06-18 1:36:18 pm

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

tnr3euser wrote:

To mods: Is it possible to change the title of this thread for other users looking to integrate J input onto their 900s?

Done from the coffee shop in Amsterdam airport smile


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#12 2008-06-18 10:16:27 pm

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Amsterdam?  "Coffee" shops?  Clearly this forum is paying you too much. smile

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#13 2008-06-29 6:03:05 am

Drewvt
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Seems like you had a really hard time getting it to work, AngryJohn.

I am looking at the 900, but I also need Japanese input to work in Linux. If Asus (or Xandros?) had made it a little easier to install, that would have made the 900 more attractive...

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#14 2008-10-19 4:14:42 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

OK...AngryJohn was it?
I guess I'm in the same bind you were. The difference being I'm still not getting it.
I followed your instructions to the letter, but I'll be darned if I can find any SCIM menu (in star office or anythere else).

Yes I'm a complete n00b, but one that would like to be able to write in Japanese on my spiffy new nine-oh-one.
So if anyone's got any suggestions...

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#15 2009-04-23 2:57:03 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

By the way, (just for anyone who actually cares)

As for step 3:

3. Add the following as a third line to the sources.list file:

deb http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

Save and exit.

You can use any debian server.  It doesn't have to be the japanese one.  If you already have any kind of Debian repository, skip step 3.


Life is a game.  Some people win, others don't.

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#16 2010-07-12 12:25:30 am

moransa
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Hey I know this is an old post, but if anyone out there is still paying attention, it seems the address in step 3 has changed and I am at a loss....  I tried http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ and http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ but still it tells me failed to fetch???  I played around with line 3 in the sources.list file and got nowhere. 

Can someone here describe to me how to modify the commands in line 3 and effectively pull me head out of me ****?

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#17 2010-07-12 2:06:26 am

gringo
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

The debian etch repository doesn't exist anymore.

Regards gringo


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901 GO  |   Xandros  |  Jan. 09

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#18 2010-07-12 11:35:28 am

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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Thanks Gringo, I was able to move forward. 

Now I am stuck at step 8, trying to activate the input language I have installed, but from the command im-switch -c, I get the error command not found.  I also tried sudo apt-get im-switch -c and it tells me option -c requires an argument.

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#19 2010-07-12 12:16:14 pm

gringo
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

I've really no clue what you're doing. 
First of all, in the mentioned step 8 I can't see anything about "sudo apt-get im-switch -c"
I can see there just an "im-switch -c", nothing else.
So, do you've already installed "im-switch"? If not, you need a "sudo apt-get install im-switch"

Apt-get is the package manager and it needs a command to know what it should do.
For example "sudo apt-get install (packagename)" or "sudo apt-get update" e.g.
To run apt-get without a command is IMHO pointless.
If "im-switch" is already installed, why the "sudo apt-get"? What should apt-get do with it?
And what should apt-get do with the -c option?

Regards gringo


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901 GO  |   Xandros  |  Jan. 09

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#20 2010-07-12 12:39:17 pm

moransa
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Gringo, please pardon my vagueness, I am a debian n00b.  It's not that I'm intentionally leaving out facts, I just don't know what I'm doing either.  But I think I follow instructions pretty well and those listed above do not work anymore, so I am looking for the adaptations. 

All I know is step 8 says to run "im-switch -c" and when I do that it says "command not found", so I'm trying some variations.  I do not know what precise result this command is trying to accomplish, I am simply following outdated instructions.  In step 5, I ran "sudo apt-get install anthy scim-anthy im-switch kasumi ttf-kochi-gothic" and it indicated some problem with the public key that I do not see addressed here.  Maybe this is why, can you help me resolve this?

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#21 2010-07-12 4:23:53 pm

gringo
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

The pubkey is not necessary for the installation.
Some repositories have 'keys' available. They are like certificates of authenticity.
It is not compulsory to install them, but if you don't then apt will report warnings.
It's not an error. So you can ignore that and click it away.

Like I've written, the debian etch repo doesn't exist anymore.
From which other repo did you try to install the mentioned packages in step 5?

The default Xandros is outdated and no more supported from its most important
repository. So unfortunately it could be you are not able to do what you want to do.

Regards gringo


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901 GO  |   Xandros  |  Jan. 09

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#22 2010-07-12 8:13:06 pm

moransa
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Since etch doesnt exist anymore, I modified the command to apply to the existing path in step 3.  In step 4 I was able successfully update and reboot.  Step 5 says to run: sudo apt-get install anthy scim-anthy in-switch kasumi ttf-kochi-gothic - First of all, I dont understand fully what this does, but once again I am simply following directions, secondly I get the following error message:

http://moransa.com/rep/terminal.jpg

As I wrote before, my goal is to change the input language of this computer to Japanese.  If you know an easier way, by all means lets do it your way.....

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#23 2010-07-13 5:53:40 am

gringo
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

I can see that you've broken packages in your package manager.
You've to remove them. Otherwise you are no more able to install or deinstall
anything because the package manager is blocked in that case.

Do it like that:

Open a terminal and type in: sudo synaptic  (press enter)
Now you'll see "synaptic", the graphical frontend of the package manager.
Click "Reload". Click "Status". You should see then a line "Broken Dependencies"
(left side). Click that line.
Now the name of the broken package (or packages) appears in the right
part of synaptic. Click the small box in front of the package name and choose
"deinstall" (or similar) from the following context menu.
If there are more than just one broken package, do the same also with the
other ones. Now you've to click "Apply" (or similar) from the menu above.
The following window tells you what you've chosen to do.
Now click "Apply" at the lower edge of the window.
Maybe you can't see this button if you've the small screen of the 701.
In that case, move the hidden part of the window into view, by click and
drag (upwards) with the left mouse button on any part of the window whilst
holding down the ALT key. Then left-click the lower edge of the window and
extend it (if necessary) until you can see the "Apply" button. Click it.
The Package (or packages) is (are) going to be deinstalled.
Close synaptic.
If everything worked then you've again a working package manager.

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If you just want to type in japanese, did you try to change the keyboard layout?
Settings tab > Peronalization > Keyboard Layout.
Don't know if you'll find japanese there but it's worth a try.

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Just found this in the wiki:  Howto:japanese input
Seems it doesn't need the debian repo.
Point 6.4 is just a dummy installation (the "-s" for simulation) to see if there are conflicts.
If you want to try the Howto then you should do it exactely like it's written there.
Don't know if it works and can't help you with it. So don't blame me if it fails.

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If nothing works, I've no more idea. In that case I'm afraid that you've to give up.
Xandros is no more supported and it's almost impossible to costumize it without
the debian etch source and some others.
So, accept it like it is or think about to change to a newer OS.

Regards gringo


701 4G  |   Xandros  |  Dez.07
901 GO  |   Xandros  |  Jan. 09

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#24 2010-07-13 11:43:43 am

moransa
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Ok, synaptic says no broken packages, SCIM (ctrl+space) has chinese as an available input, but no Japanese, and keyboard layout only has English sad 

I looked over the new post you found with the other available procedures and they seem very thorough.  I tried, but Im getting stuck on step 1, for some reason I can no longer edit the sources.list file.  I wont give up so easy, but I still need and appreciate your help.

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#25 2010-07-13 12:07:58 pm

gringo
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Re: Japanese Language Input & DIY Tips

Your image shows there are broken packages (they would block also the sources.list).

And also you've to close synaptic before you try to edit the sources.list
with : sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list

If synaptic is open or another package manager process is running in the background
(from terminal, or whatsoever) or there are broken packages, everything else is blocked
from APT (it's the name of the package manager).

Look once more in synaptic and do the same what I've written again.

Regards gringo


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