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In a few days OpenSuse 11.0 will be releases, I'm very curious how it will run on an EEE and if the hardware is supported 'out of the box'.
Any beta experience on the EEE?
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pevadijk wrote:
In a few days OpenSuse 11.0 will be releases, I'm very curious how it will run on an EEE and if the hardware is supported 'out of the box'.
Any beta experience on the EEE?
I have installed beta3 and RC1. Here are some random observations:
1. I installed with two USB pendrives. One held the dvd iso, the other one had a minimal boot system and was prepared according to the SuSE wiki. This worked very well and wasn't too difficult.
2. I had to boot the installer with the "safe" kernel settings; if I try to boot with the default settings, boot halts immediately with a message "bug 1234" (don't remember the exact number). This means that the installer will write these safe settings to the grub config file. I'll have to experiment which parameters actually allow me to boot.
3. Since I installed to my SDHC, I wanted to install grub to the MBR of the SDH card. The SuSE installer doesn't offer this choice, so I had to chroot into the newly created card and install grub by hand. This will probably be too difficult for beginners.
4. Out of the box, SuSE has drivers NEITHER for the wired ethernet card NOR for the wireless. So you must remember to fetch the rpms for one of those, save them to a USB stick and then install it, or you'll have an eeepc without network.
5. After that, everything looks pretty good. Resolution works well. If you include the appleonkel repository in the YaST sources, you get most of the eeepc stuff (acpi, wireless etc.) working.
6. There are still a couple of bugs which I hope they will resolve before release. Two of the most annoying: the update tool doesn't work; you always get an empty list until you update manually for the first time, and the update icon in the toolbar crashes. And (that's a showstopper for me): emacs doesn't work properly; it has tiny, unreadable fonts (both the default emacs and the xft cvs version that I compiled myself, so I suspect this is a misconfiguration in the xorg font settings in SuSE).
I'm a big fan of SuSE; if they manage to fix these bugs and provide an easier way to install it to the eeepc, I'm sure this will be a great distro for the eeepc.
pindar
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i have instaled opensuse 11 today and after some tweaks everthing works good.
I have follow the opensuse wiki for eeepc version 10.3.
The kde 4 it's fantastic and the compiz fusion works very good.
With the 10.3 version, compiz crashes all the time because i only 512 ram, but with this new version it works good.
I don't think it's the best option for the eeePC. Mandriva works better and 100 per cent out a box but i just love opensuse.
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Do any of you have an EeePC 900 with opensuse? I had some video resolution problems when I tried 10.3, although only when in runlevel 5. I'll be trying 11 in a day or two and see how things work on the 900.
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i'm also interested about the video resolution on 900... couldn't fix it after all the packages have been updated on 10.3 ((( today i'll try 11.
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I'd be interested to know if anybody has managed to install the final version of SuSE 11.0 on their eee. I had rge RC installed, and it worked reasonably well (couple of minor issues,but I was hoping for the final release). I installed the final thing today, installation is fine, but the installed system doesn't boot; it stops after "bringing up loopback interface." I tried with different kernels and different settings, but never managed to boot the system. Anyone has better results?
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I just tried suse 11 on my 900 and it has the same video problems as with 10.3. It runs very well and nice but only if I start from runlevel 3 and do startx.
The problem is 1/3 of the bottom of the desktop is off the screen. This starts before I login and continues with KDE, GNOME, or FVWM. This problem does not exist during the SaX2's X11 Configuration "test", when I use startx from runlevel 3, or use 640x480 (even 800x600 has the problem).
Has anybody else found a solution?
Last edited by kyeenak (2008-06-21 9:40:06 pm)
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have the same issue here... weird bug...
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pindar wrote:
I'd be interested to know if anybody has managed to install the final version of SuSE 11.0 on their eee. I had rge RC installed, and it worked reasonably well (couple of minor issues,but I was hoping for the final release). I installed the final thing today, installation is fine, but the installed system doesn't boot; it stops after "bringing up loopback interface." I tried with different kernels and different settings, but never managed to boot the system. Anyone has better results?
pindar
I had same problem when I tried to install openSUSE 11 (rc1 and from current gm dvd) to my 2g eee. It installs fine, but when booting it freezes to that point, tty 10 I think it was revealed that it errored on unexped errors on device sda, so it appears to detect faulty my SSD drive, even though it's not installed there, but on SDHC card. I tried virtually every faultmode starts including rootwait, but I couldn't get it to boot. Internal SSD drive isn't faulty, it works great with any other os and I can restore original xandros copy any time without errors.
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xbmc wrote:
I had same problem when I tried to install openSUSE 11 (rc1 and from current gm dvd) to my 2g eee. It installs fine, but when booting it freezes to that point, tty 10 I think it was revealed that it errored on unexped errors on device sda, so it appears to detect faulty my SSD drive, even though it's not installed there, but on SDHC card. I tried virtually every faultmode starts including rootwait, but I couldn't get it to boot. Internal SSD drive isn't faulty, it works great with any other os and I can restore original xandros copy any time without errors.
Mine is an 8G 701, so it's definitely a problem with openSuSE. Bizarre things is that I have a working installtion of RC1... Looks like a driver problem to me; possibly one of the usb drivers is needed to use the SD. Have to see if I can find anything by comparing RC1 and the new install which doesn't boot.
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That is bizarre indeed. I'm quite surprised that there isn't virtually any information about this issue, kinda like none has tried openSUSE on eee.
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I have the same problems with openSUSE 11.0 on my 4G:
- booting process stops after "Disabling IP forwarding", I need to press CTRL-C to continue
- shutdown does not work (it stops before filesysystems are unmounted), after each reboot fsck is executed
- sync command does not work (maybe this is related to shutdown problem)
- suspend to RAM does not work
All these problems did not occur under openSUSE 10,3. Strange that openSUSE was not properly tested with and adapted to EeePC.
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I must correct or add here, that the sync, shutdown and suspend problems are related to an I/O error of my SD card (sdb). I have two partitions (sdb, 1 normal, 1 encrypted) on the SD card. The encrypted partition seems to have a problem. If I remove the SD card partitions from the system, everything seems to work except of startup. During startup the system still stops after "Disabling IP forwarding".
I now have to check if the SD card itself has a problem or the card reader driver. However, before updating to 11.0 there was no problem with my SD card filesystems.
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ralfk wrote:
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- booting process stops after "Disabling IP forwarding", I need to press CTRL-C to continue
I tried this on my 2G but it didn't help.
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I just want to inform that the boot, shutdown and suspend problems were caused by the SDHC card, which I use for some mount points. This card is not recognized successfully under openSUSE 11.0 in my EeePC. I get an I/O error and the system behaves bad after inserting it. In another openSUSE 11.0 PC the card is working well (with the USB adapter). So, could be a matter of the SD driver with SDHC cards ? Since another standard SD card works in my EeePC without problems.
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ralfk wrote:
I just want to inform that the boot, shutdown and suspend problems were caused by the SDHC card, which I use for some mount points. This card is not recognized successfully under openSUSE 11.0 in my EeePC. I get an I/O error and the system behaves bad after inserting it. In another openSUSE 11.0 PC the card is working well (with the USB adapter). So, could be a matter of the SD driver with SDHC cards ? Since another standard SD card works in my EeePC without problems.
Very interesting. Your post made me retry installing SuSE 11.0 on a different card -- and all is well! I could install successfully and the initial boot worked without a hitch. Funny thing is that the card which did not work (Transcend 8GB class 6) is the very card on which I had SuSE 10.3 installed. Go figure... Anyways: I can now confirm that installing SuSE 11.0 on a SDHC works, and I think SuSE looks great on an eeepc.
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Well, the question is now why we both have problems with SDHC cards, that worked well under 10.3 and that work also on another 11.0 PC, but not in the EeePC. I guess there is something with the driver. My "bad" card is a Transcend SDHC 4GB Class 6.
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I tried to setup openSUSE 11 as a second system on my eeePC 900 but failed.
I have created 3.5gb partition on 16gb SSD, prepared USB bootable stick with DVD image following to
http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_from_USB_drive
then download additional drivers from http://download.opensuse.org/repositori … .0_Update/
I placed these drivers on install usb and on separate usb without success - suse installation don't see additional drivers.
And I failed to modprobe drivers after insalltion suse doesn't see them anyway.
It seems everybody knows how to add drivers during install but I didn't find any mention about it.
Could anybody teach me about directory structure and placement of additional software so they can be picked up?
Thanks in advance.
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silver wrote:
I tried to setup openSUSE 11 as a second system on my eeePC 900 but failed.
I have created 3.5gb partition on 16gb SSD, prepared USB bootable stick with DVD image following to
http://en.opensuse.org/SuSE_install_from_USB_drive
then download additional drivers from http://download.opensuse.org/repositori … .0_Update/
I placed these drivers on install usb and on separate usb without success - suse installation don't see additional drivers.
And I failed to modprobe drivers after insalltion suse doesn't see them anyway.
It seems everybody knows how to add drivers during install but I didn't find any mention about it.
Could anybody teach me about directory structure and placement of additional software so they can be picked up?
Thanks in advance.
You don't install the drivers during the installation. Let the installation do its magic, skip the network detection and setup phase, boot into the new system, and then install the drivers from your USB stick. All you really need is the network drivers (atl2 and/or madwifi, be sure to install the version that matches with the kernel you installed); install them with "rpm -Uvh <name>" and reboot; you should now be able to configure your network in YaST. After you have network, you can simply add the appleonkel repository to you YaST lists and get everything the regular way.
HTH
pindar
Last edited by pindar (2008-07-07 6:49:59 am)
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Yes, I did it!
I reinstalled suse more carefully and it works now!
My mistake was that I didn't uncheck the network detection during setup phase.
Now I'm looking forward to further suse tuning.
Thanks for help.
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kyeenak wrote:
I just tried suse 11 on my 900 and it has the same video problems as with 10.3. It runs very well and nice but only if I start from runlevel 3 and do startx.
The problem is 1/3 of the bottom of the desktop is off the screen. This starts before I login and continues with KDE, GNOME, or FVWM. This problem does not exist during the SaX2's X11 Configuration "test", when I use startx from runlevel 3, or use 640x480 (even 800x600 has the problem).
Has anybody else found a solution?
Having the exact same problem 
Did anybody discover a fix?
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I installed openSuse with 640x480 resolution then set up 1024x600 with Yast and have no issue.
Do you have 915resolution package installed?
Or try to describe the issue in more details so anybody else can reproduce it on own eeepc900.
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Ah no I don't have the "915resolution" package, haven't even heard that referenced anywhere before.
There's not much more explaining than what kyeenak said - the bottom third of the desktop is physically below where you can see on the screen, yet when you change the resolution in sax2, it lines up perfectly in the preview. Everything in xorg.conf is spot on.
To add insult to injury, XP handles the resolution fine without any prompting.
Edit: And like I said above, this is on a 1000H, not a 900.
Last edited by ChrisGray (2008-08-09 8:38:06 am)
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Indeed? I don't care a bit.
And please use such abusive words as "xp" elsewhere but not here.
This topic is for openSuse only.
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I was able to get arround the screen issue in beta 3 by going under the \yast\etc\config editor and switching from xgl to xorg on a 900. I have Opensuse 11 (the real release) dual booting with XP on my 1000h but i dont see the option to switch to xorg now so something changed. I would almost bet money its just the mode line thats wrong. Does anyone know where to configure it in the default install graphics engine? If so i may be able to figure out the modeline. I just dont see that xorg.conf is controlling anything, or they moved it.
Last edited by squonk (2008-08-09 3:44:18 pm)
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