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One thing I've noticed is that the Eee comes with some slightly non-standard fonts; moving documents back and forth between OpenOffice on another machine that supports Microsoft's standard font range and the Eee, you might find it looks rather different.
If you want Arial, Georgia, Times New Roman, and the usual suspects, it's worth knowing that Microsoft used to distribute their core fonts in a package -- the MS core web fonts. They withdrew them a couple of years ago, but it's still legal to redistribute them in their original (.CAB -- windows installer) packaging and licensing. There's a Debian package out there that basically runs a script to download and unpack these font packages, and install them on your system.
If you've followed the HOWTO in the wiki for pinning your package system to Asus and adding Debian repositories (Start here: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/addingxandrosrepos) you can just open a terminal window and type:
sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
It'll take a while -- there are about 10Mb of files to download and unpack -- but at the end of it, you'll have the Microsoft core fonts installed on your Eee. And what do you know? Word documents formatted in Times New Roman will suddenly look right!
(NB: worked for me. Anyone want to confirm, or note issues?)
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Thank you, fonts are always nice when you know what you're doing.
Sadly, I have had no success with installing Debian Suppositories, I'm sure if I just read another 30 or 40 posts I'll learn, but the URLs supplied have always failed for me in the last week, and I just don't have the time to care right now. Oops, sorry, I'm whining!
Personally, I can't stand Times New Roman - we've had the font inflicted upon us for, what? decades? Millions of people who don't even know how to change a font think that 'TNR' is all we have.
Within OpenOffice 2.0 I miss having 'Trebuchet MS' and Georgia, Garamond, Arial and Helvetica, but I'm loving the default 'DejaVu' font. I can't find this font within the Drop-down menu of OpenOffice 2.3 on my Windows desktop... hmm, why not?
Around the Xandros system, I've changed my fonts to 'URW Gothic L'.
But thanks, it's important to have cross-platform fonts and I suggest people do consider Arial / Helvetica to be important fonts when sharing documents with others (and I'm not forgetting the benefits / limitations of PDFs here).
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Definitely one for the wiki!
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Jon Bradbury wrote:
Definitely one for the wiki!
i agree; worked great thank you..
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Wedge wrote:
Within OpenOffice 2.0 I miss having 'Trebuchet MS' and Georgia, Garamond, Arial and Helvetica, but I'm loving the default 'DejaVu' font. I can't find this font within the Drop-down menu of OpenOffice 2.3 on my Windows desktop... hmm, why not?
Well, you'd have to install it. http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/ and unzip and install the fonts like you normally would install a Windows font. Note that DejaVu is a respin of Bittstream Vera (but with more Glyphs for non-ASCII folks).
Gentium is another nice font for Linux. I use it as my replacement for Times New Roman and DejaVu Sans as a replacement for Arial, et all.
Last edited by quagga (2007-11-26 11:05:19 am)
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I suppose there is an easier one-off way to do this without having to configure additional repositories, correct? Can I not just download the fonts package from ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/contri … .4_all.deb , and then install it manually with "sudo dpkg -i <package-name>"?
[Edit: Corrected Link]
Last edited by cannondale0815 (2007-11-29 8:55:45 am)
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OKay, I knew about moving the fonts to /usr/share/fonts, but when I tried that it tells me I don't have permissions.
I did have to reload the default installation once already due to a software glitch, but don't see why that should affect it.
Anybody got any ideas or advice?
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sullysat wrote:
OKay, I knew about moving the fonts to /usr/share/fonts, but when I tried that it tells me I don't have permissions.
Did you switch to super user mode beforehand? Do a "sudo bash" upfront, then try again.
Last edited by cannondale0815 (2007-12-03 9:32:16 pm)
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This is great, thank you! 
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That doesn't work either.
I *suspect* that the problem is somehow related to the fact that I had to put in a user name and password when I reloaded the factory installation.
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Yeah - cannondale0815's direct link and install didn't work for me either, while (as a Linux Newbie) I am less than thrilled at the idea of incorporating other depositories and the whole pinning thing - simply to acquire one or two programs. Seems like overkill - and a computer 'issue' just waiting to happen.
Still, it would be nice to have some 'standardized' fonts on the beast. Add it to the list of programs ASUS should include in their repositories, I guess....
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I did manage to get most of the TT fonts installed last night using the font installer in KDE control center.
I just brought up the control center from the terminal (I think you need to have done the full desktop tweaks first, but I'm not sure), then went to the font installer under the desktop tree and installed the fonts from where I had them stored on and SD card.
SullySAT
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sullysat wrote:
I just brought up the control center from the terminal (I think you need to have done the full desktop tweaks first, but I'm not sure), then went to the font installer under the desktop tree and installed the fonts from where I had them stored on and SD card.
SullySAT
Que?
Control Center from Terminal?
Desktop tree?
Care to ellucidate?
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Okay, as I said, you may need to visit the threads on how to get a start button and full desktop on you eee, but then you can access the terminal (where the command line is) from either desktop.
type "sudo bash" to get administrator priviledges
type "kcontrol" to get the KDE Control Center. If you're unfamiliar with this utility, its fairly 'windows-like' with the various things you can edit and adjust on the left and the actual adjustment dialogs on the right.
Now, you will need to have the fonts you want somewhere on your system already... SD card, USB drive, whatever...
Once you have the Control Center open, select "Display," then "Theme," then Font Installer. There's an option to Add Fonts.. select that, then drill down to where ever you stored them. Its pretty straight forward from there.
When I opened Write after that, I had access to the TT fonts I need.
Hope that clears in up for you! Anybody else have suggestions?
SullySAT
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Ah, great!
I operate in Advanced Mode screen, but I was lost by was how to access Control Center via Terminal. This I guess you do to offer Admin access via sudo bash, rather than simply go to the same thing in Launch > Control Center?
So "KControl" was the missing link, thanks.
Meanwhile, the fonts you installed were TTFs. 'Kay, got that.
We'll give it the old college try....
EDIT: Well, found freeware equivalent Arial, Garamond, Courier and Times New Roman TTFs at Penguinfonts (www.penguinfonts.com) - downloaded these. Then simply used Launch > Control Center > Display > Theme > Font Installer. As I'm the only user on this eee, I simply used 'Add fonts' to the personal fonts screen - not the Administrator / system wide method - so no screwing with the system.
Installed without a problem and now I have these available to me in OO, KMail, etc.
Last edited by Bazza (2007-12-05 7:19:47 pm)
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I've tried the ff. to install MS fonts:
Downloaded the 2 packages below from http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages
cabextract_1.2-2_i386.deb
msttcorefonts_1.8_all.deb
Then run the ff. commands in terminal:
$ sudo bash
# dpkg -i cabextract_1.2-2_i386.deb
# dpkg -i msttcorefonts_1.8_all.deb
Installing the fonts package itself requires that you have internet connection but since you downloaded the 2 packages then this means that you have a connection.
This worked for me and I'm now able to use fonts in OpenOffice.
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Interesting - but the method I noted above didn't require the leap of faith with the addition of a possibly incompatible program, nor having to install the whole MS Fonts library. Penguinfonts and Fonts Installer allowed me to choose the fonts I wanted without the addition of more programs.
Still, worth noting.
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I have installed Wondow's fonts (e.g. Times New Roman) into my eeepc but the documents in Openoffice Writer still doesn't appear the same as in MS Word. Are there any way of improving this?
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Tin Tin wrote:
I have installed Wondow's fonts (e.g. Times New Roman) into my eeepc but the documents in Openoffice Writer still doesn't appear the same as in MS Word. Are there any way of improving this?
Well, assuming that the fonts are now what you expected but the formating is different, then sadly that is the hiccup of using Word 'compatible' programs - stuff is often similar but not identical.
Its not limited to OpenOffice though - Word opening other formats, AbiWord opening others - the translation is often not perfect.
Its frustrating and more than a little disconcerting, especially if you (or others) are going to open the file on another program - you're not entirely what will show up.
One either lives with imperfect translation, or Save as... a Rich Text Format (which tends to have fewer translation issues, but fewer formatting options) or, if a document is meant for viewing but not editing (such as business document in an email), Export as PDF, which is best at holding onto the intended formatting.
OR, one moves to XP (or WINE) on the eeePC, use Microsoft Office and hope every computer opening the file has the same version on it.
If however, you're finding after uninstalling the fonts they are not showing up in documents, then I'm not sure the problem there...
Last edited by Bazza (2007-12-18 10:02:10 am)
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Easy way to add fonts:
1.copy fonts onto usb card from your pc that you want to use
2.on eepc press control+alt+t to get terminal
3. type "kcontrol"
4 go to display --> Theme -->font installer
5. click add fonts
6. select fonts from your usb card/stick and choose install
that way you can pick and choose
Hope this is helpful
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Very helpful thank you.
I was recompiling the kernel to support 2g and foolishly printed the instructions off my desktop running XP.
To make a long story short the .lst (L) looked like .1st (one) in the print out... Took me FOREVER to figure it out.
Craig
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Does anyone know if there is a limit to how many fonts can be added? The thing is, I have literally hundreds on my desktop PC and I'd like to be able to use as many as possible on StephanEee ("Short Circuit" in-joke!) as well, but I don't want to just lob them in there and then find I've given her indigestion...
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I think it is probably only limited by the size of your SSD.
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Hi there,
I used a small shellscript for my Pardus Linux powered homecomputer which also seems to work on Eee Linux. It imports the most used MS fonts, so websites as shown more properly and documents look similar on the eee as on Windows.
http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/%7Eismail … refonts.sh
Install with: sudo path/to/corefonts.sh
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sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
How do I set Times as default? Any way to safely remove open office programs that are surplus such as presentation or spreadsheet, while keeping the basic ooffice? Thanks.
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