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#1 2007-11-20 8:12:46 am

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Google Desktop on Linux

The Desktop search software provided by Google is great, it fully integrates with the Google web page!

Version 1 is available for Linux; you can  download the program from http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/


Find out more from http://desktop.google.com/features.html (be sure to configure the software so that you are happy about your privacy settings).


(Personally, I prefer Copernic Desktop Search, but it's only available for Windows.)


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#2 2007-11-20 10:14:01 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Are you using this or any desktop search on the default Eee installation?


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#3 2007-11-20 10:18:02 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Hello Mohan,

yes, naturally I am using this on the default Eee, in 'Advanced Mode' of course.


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#4 2007-11-20 10:41:23 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Great, thanks! I'm indexing right now.

I'll start a walkthrough for beginner users here, although I have to verify some of this stuff. This is for Easy Mode. It's generally the same as installation in any Debian derivative environment, but the part in bold is unique to the Eee.

Open a terminal -- ctrl-alt-t
Type: sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list

Add this line at the bottom:

deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free

Hit ctrl-x then y then enter to save.

Now type:

sudo apt-get update

You can ignore the certificate issue, as far as I can tell... the certificate does not seem to do anything except prevent you from getting a warning in the next step.

sudo apt-get install google-desktop-linux

Say yes when asked if you want to install from an unverified source. Unless you don't trust Google. :p

Reboot.

Open a terminal and type:

gdlinux &

You should now have a colored-swirl icon in the tray. It will also start indexing. You can right click and do index -> index status to see progress and change preferences. You should let it index, which may take one or more hours depending on how many files you have. This is a one-time only deal.

It looks like, to get it working in simple mode, you have to edit /usr/bin/startsimple.sh and add a line.

sudo pico /usr/bin/startsimple.sh

Add

gdlinux &

underneath the lines that say:

        icewmtray &
        powermonitor &
        minimixer &
        networkmonitor ath0 eth0 &
        wapmonitor &
-->  gdlinux &

Again, ctrl-x, y, enter, to save. Now on reboot, the tool will be available automatically. smile

Also, be forewarned that, as startsimple.sh is located in system territory, it is quite possible that this file may get overwritten during a future Asus update. If that were to happen, you would probably have to make changes to it again. Unlike the IceWM mods that can be placed in the home directory, I don't know of any way to get around this. Thanks to the excellent Berkus for instructions on how to customize tray icons. smile


You can now press ctrl twice, or double click the tray icon, to pull up the tool. smile

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#5 2007-11-20 10:47:42 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

You're far more clever with Linux than I; I can make 'Advanced Mode' do some things for me, but I have no idea how to install programs in 'Simple Mode'. Glad you think it's a good program.


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#6 2007-11-20 11:10:27 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I did note that a lot of the default preferences are kind of goofy. It searches a whole bunch of system locations like /usr/share... in OS X, I actually do use spotlight to get at system files occasionally (like we have people spotlight plist preference files that sometimes get corrupted, as its the easiest way to find and delete them), but I chose to delete all these on my Eee, leaving just /usr/home. I'm not sure whether it'll automatically spotlight USB or SD (which mount inside the home directory)... I'll have to explore that.

Also, some other strange default preferences include searching the web by default instead of the desktop, which seems idiotic to me. I also turned off the integration that makes desktop results come up in web searches, although I might turn that back on.

Finally, it doesn't seem to be indexing anything in Thunderbird at the moment. The only mail account I have set up in there right now is GMail, which it's indexing through the GMail option, but it doesn't seem to see events in my Sunbird/Lightning calendar or contacts in Thunderbird proper. Hopefully those are limitations that can be addressed at some point, although I do have Thunderbird set up to require a password when run; I don't know if this impacts anything.

I don't know if this is an Eee Easy Mode issue, but it seemed somewhat limited in what it would accept as a hotkey for the quick search tool. Ctrl-Alt combinations seemed to be a no-go. Ctrl-Ctrl seems okay enough, though, so I'll live with that for now.

Other than that, it's definitely a nice addition. It's no Spotlight, but it is usable.

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#7 2007-11-20 12:31:00 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Okay, my indexing is done. Something strange about it is that it only indexed about 1400 e-mails from my Google Mail, despite there being three times this many. It didn't seem to index relatively recent e-mails in my Google Mail, worse yet -- it seems to have started indexing in chronological order instead of reverse chronological order. roll I'll post back if this ameliorates, but for now, it seems to have stopped indexing old Google Mail.

Also for information purposes, SSD footprint of the Google Desktop Install + the index seems to have been about 80MB.


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#8 2007-11-20 1:01:03 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I'm unsure if it's indexing my MMC SDHC card... I have set it to do so within the preferences (and removed some of the bizarre areas of the hard-drive it was set to to search...)

Have you got a flash card? Can GDesktop index it?

(Index footprint will grow as the number of files it indexes grows! My desktop PC has a huge index footprint (I use Copernican).)

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#9 2007-11-20 4:11:03 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I have a USB stick at home and an SDHC on order... I'll give both a try.

One issue I just noted is that gdlinux does not seem to survive going to sleep for me. Another is that it does not seem to respect default application associations (although I don't really understand how that works in linux anyway) -- for instance, if I find a PDF file and click on it, it opens in Firefox instead of in a Reader window, despite being a locally stored PDF.

Is there an easy way to see how big Google Desktop's index is?

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#10 2007-11-23 9:45:45 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

The easiest estimate of the index file seems to be looking at the size of the .google folder (i.e.  du -h --max-depth 0 ~/.google).... mine came out to be about 115 MB, which is kind of odd considering that I had only about 350MB of files to begin with in indexed areas.

I actually finally decided that it seemed to be having too much of a negative performance impact, so I removed it. Nicely, when you use apt-get to remove it, it's actually good enough to delete your cache in the process. smile


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#11 2007-11-24 5:25:07 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Well I used the GUI to find my .google folder smile I'm a gooey guy.  Hmm, yes, 122MB - I'm going to change its indexing preferences to ensure it isn't bothering with program files.

Glad it gets removed cleanly - I think I'll keep it for a few weeks and see how much I use it.

---

Ah, now that I've cleaned up the preferences to only index my /home/user area, the index file is just a few megabytes. Hmm, it still won't index my SD flash card though, and that's where all my content and media is stored... grr

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#12 2007-11-24 10:51:50 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I had to manually add the card's directory to get it to index it. Mine was >100MB *after* forcing indexing of only the home directory and my SD card.... But then I was indexing GMail, and I have rather a lot of messages in GMail.


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#13 2007-11-24 11:30:11 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I've found the correct and real address of my SD card, it was "/media/MMC-SD" rather than the address I had browsed to previously, so I'm happy now.

I've chosen not to index my Gmail, as Gmail Search is perfect at doing that already!


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#14 2007-11-24 11:36:36 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I think that's wise, yeah. That should substantially cut down on your index size. FWIW, I believe I added in the SD card as

/home/user/MMC-SD/sd/

(sd was the name of the formatted volume on it.) And it worked fine. FWIW, GDL does not appear to follow symbolic links -- the directory on my SD for instance that had all the Articles in it was already symlinked as /home/user/PDF and as /home/user/My Documents/Articles, but it didn't catch the files via either link. I ended up just having it index two sites -- /home/user/My Documents/ and /home/user/MMC-SD/sd/.

In any event, the way I use my Eee, I can probably actually live without desktop search for the time being, while I wait around the longer issue of native driver support in Ubuntu that would let me ditch the Asus distribution altogether.


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#15 2007-11-24 12:25:58 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Can someone perhaps post some pics of what it actually looks like on the small screen. I'm intrested in Google Desktop, but I'm not sure how much of the desktop it actually takes up.

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#16 2007-11-24 12:33:00 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Google Desktop is integrated into 'the Google search page' - y'know, google.com

So it doesn't take up any space on the desktop. There is the Google Desktop icon on the taskbar, to the right, and if you double click it, you can have a 'search box' appear, but in general, you go to google.com and there is a Desktop search option,

Here's two images: http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/features.html

And here's several more: http://desktop.google.com/en/linux/gettingstarted.html


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#17 2007-11-24 1:57:43 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

alright thanks big_smile. Will definetly install now smile

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#18 2007-11-25 2:17:34 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

is this not working for any body else?

My console reads, couldn't find package

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#19 2007-11-25 2:57:32 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

What do you mean, couldn't find package? Can you post console output? Did you follow the installation procedure (adding the Google repositories and doing sudo apt-get update)?


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#20 2007-11-25 5:20:57 pm

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Never mind, I made a mistake adding the google repository.

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#21 2007-11-26 12:30:31 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Does this not have the "widgets" that the Windows version has?

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#22 2007-11-26 5:47:56 am

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

No, it doesn't; this is version 1 for Linux, I think they are on version 4 for Windows.


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#23 2008-01-06 6:59:38 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

I sucessfully installed the Google search only to find that it is not searching WITHIN files/documents. For example, it finds the files named my sample.doc (when I search for 'sample') but it does not fine the word 'sample' withing the document.

Having used the same program in Windows XP, I know this is not the correct behavior. I have examined all the options and everything seems corect.

Anyone have any suggestions???

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#24 2008-01-06 7:26:20 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Hmm...that's odd. I'm pretty sure it was doing that successfully for me (I've since moved on, though, and I use Tracker, the default on Ubuntu now).


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#25 2008-01-07 7:30:46 pm

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Re: Google Desktop on Linux

Additional research indicates that several applications must be installed to index OO documents & pdf documents. The requirements are for: wvware, catdoc, pdftotext, and ps2ascii. Anyone know where I can get these apps?

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