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#1 2008-04-03 5:43:47 pm

fluxflux
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fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

The German live project has an English fork, fluxflux-eee-en-2008-6 is released. It is available as ISO and as tar.gz.

More about the project here ...

Just click there the link to the translated English webpage (thank you to Surfer Dude for proof reading the webpage).

fluxflux.

Last edited by fluxflux (2008-10-12 10:04:53 am)

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#2 2008-04-03 8:32:57 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Very nice!  Please link to that webswite from

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/

and post its informations on

http://wiki.eeeuser.com/overview.html

Thanks!

Sheng-Chieh


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#3 2008-04-04 1:33:54 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Nice!
I prefer PCLOS as I am quickly loving it on my dual boot desktop.
Now, to learn how to untar the file...

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#4 2008-04-04 2:42:48 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

is there a tutorial on installing this ?
I love it .. apart from the deafening speech at the start .. could have warned me about that smile

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#5 2008-04-04 5:24:40 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

You will find detailed informations at

http://fluxflux.net/fluxflux-eee/index-en.html

See there the section "Installation as a real linux system ..."

It is the first page I translated into English with the help of Surfer Dude, member in this forum. More pages will follow.

fluxflux.

P. S.: What exactly is the meaning of "defeaning"? Horrible? Loud?

Last edited by fluxflux (2008-10-12 10:05:26 am)

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#6 2008-04-04 7:45:02 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

yeah i had machine with no headphones plugged in .. all of a sudden from the quiet boot process ... "I AM A COMPUTER!!" shocking thats all smile

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#7 2008-04-05 3:46:39 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

The default message for a new created user during the installation onto internal SSD will be: Welcome `whoami`.

Noting else.

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#8 2008-04-05 4:13:00 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Thanks for coming up with this, it looks really impressive, and I'm looking forward to trying it.

Trouble is, I've spent most of the day trying to set up a USB stick, with no luck. The stick is formatted as per the instructions, mtools is installed, the tar.gz is downloaded, and the md5sum checks out:

Code:

[root@dhcppc1 fluxflux]# md5sum /home/ian/tmp/eeelive/fluxflux-eee-en-2008-5.tar.gz
0e3c3fdcb90a7819c23e7f07068e289d  /home/ian/tmp/eeelive/fluxflux-eee-en-2008-5.tar.gz

However, trying to extract the tarball onto the stick with Ark gives errors - for each file in the archive:

Code:

Cannot change ownership to uid 502, gid 502: operation failed.

Although the files do appear on the USB stick, trying to run bootinst.sh results variously in

Code:

Flushing filesystem buffers, this may take a while...
Setting up MBR on /dev/sda...
./bootinst.sh: line 53: ./syslinux/lilo: No such file or directory

or

Code:

[root@dhcppc1 fluxflux]# ./bootinst.sh
bash: ./bootinst.sh: Input/output error

If memory serves, I get the earlier message on the first attempt to run bootinst.sh after extraction, and the second message on subsequent attempts, before I delete everything and start again. I have downloaded the tarball several times, but each time with the same result. So, wondering if there is a problem with the English version - has anyone else had similar problems, or has it gone ok? - I thought I would try the German language version, as per SurferDude's walk-through, but I can't seem to find any active links to mirrors from eeelive.org. Apart from that, it's been going well... I'd be very grateful for any pointers as to where I might be going wrong.

Incidentally, if this post sounds overly churlish, please forgive me, that is not my intent. I realise this is one person's effort, which hadn't been intended originally as a public release. I offer this experience as, I hope, constructive feedback on the English language build.


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#9 2008-04-05 5:05:58 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Hi,

I installed the english release several times to an USB-drive and a HCSD-card, Surfer Dude did the same. No problems with bootinst.sh.

You can check the files in /syslinux: there must be:

ldlinux.sys
lilo
mbr.bin
syslinux
syslinux.com
syslinux.exe

The mentioned errors while extracting the files onto a FAT32 partition are ok, because there cannot be set an ownership.

Try to untar the tar.gz within a konsole as root, may be Ark is the problem.

fluxflux.

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#10 2008-04-05 5:53:23 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Anomie wrote:

Thanks for coming up with this, it looks really impressive, and I'm looking forward to trying it.

Trouble is, I've spent most of the day trying to set up a USB stick, with no luck. The stick is formatted as per the instructions, mtools is installed, the tar.gz is downloaded, and the md5sum checks out:

Code:

[root@dhcppc1 fluxflux]# md5sum /home/ian/tmp/eeelive/fluxflux-eee-en-2008-5.tar.gz
0e3c3fdcb90a7819c23e7f07068e289d  /home/ian/tmp/eeelive/fluxflux-eee-en-2008-5.tar.gz

However, trying to extract the tarball onto the stick with Ark gives errors - for each file in the archive:

Code:

Cannot change ownership to uid 502, gid 502: operation failed.

Although the files do appear on the USB stick, trying to run bootinst.sh results variously in

Code:

Flushing filesystem buffers, this may take a while...
Setting up MBR on /dev/sda...
./bootinst.sh: line 53: ./syslinux/lilo: No such file or directory

or

Code:

[root@dhcppc1 fluxflux]# ./bootinst.sh
bash: ./bootinst.sh: Input/output error

If memory serves, I get the earlier message on the first attempt to run bootinst.sh after extraction, and the second message on subsequent attempts, before I delete everything and start again. I have downloaded the tarball several times, but each time with the same result. So, wondering if there is a problem with the English version - has anyone else had similar problems, or has it gone ok? - I thought I would try the German language version, as per SurferDude's walk-through, but I can't seem to find any active links to mirrors from eeelive.org. Apart from that, it's been going well... I'd be very grateful for any pointers as to where I might be going wrong.

Incidentally, if this post sounds overly churlish, please forgive me, that is not my intent. I realise this is one person's effort, which hadn't been intended originally as a public release. I offer this experience as, I hope, constructive feedback on the English language build.

Hi Ian,

I was having these problems too, the way I solved it was to extract the files onto the hard-drive of my desktop computer, and then copy all the files onto the sd-card.

hope this helps.


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#11 2008-04-06 3:11:46 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

fluxflux, Surfer Dude, thank you both for your replies. It's actually looking like it's the USB stick that was on the way out during my installation attempts - it's now not letting me add or remove any files, not even dd has any effect... I'll try and get a new USB stick soon (it would have to be my daughter's birthday party today) and let you know how I get on.

Thanks again,

Ian


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#12 2008-04-06 6:00:45 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

For the installation of fluxflux-eee to internal SSD there is a fix available at

http://flux.live-modules.org/iso-2008-eeepc-english/

More information in the readme-pre-installation-fix.txt ...

The fix is NOT needed for the live system!

Sorry for this mistake,

fluxflux.

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#13 2008-04-07 4:19:23 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

I tried it but wireless dosen't work sad
why?

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#14 2008-04-07 4:22:36 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Internal eeePC WLAN?

What did not work?

Switch?
Connection?
Encryption?

Regards,

fluxflux.

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#15 2008-04-07 5:30:47 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Ok, now it works (i was lost with the network manager).
I had to reboot twice before he found my wireless, but then i get no connection e the ping doesn't work.

Thanks in advice wink

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#16 2008-04-07 5:44:49 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

The WLAN device needs about 15 seconds to initialize. If your network cannot be found while running the configuration just click "backwards" and then "continue", this will work. The madwifi driver is able to work with WEP, WPA, WPA2-PSK, WPA2-AES without problems.

Until today there was not one problem with the WLAN device in fluxflux-eee.

Regards,

fluxflux.

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#17 2008-04-08 12:11:00 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

OK, I can now confirm that the original USB stick was faulty, my apologies for the false alarm. I borrowed the SD card out of my phone and was able to get a successful boot off that, copying the files after extraction, as Surfer Dude had suggested. I now have a livedisk installation on a new USB stick, which I am using to post this message. I'll use it live for a few more days, but I am already minded to switch to a permanent install. I'd like to reiterate my thanks to Thomas, and also the others helping with this project.

I have noticed an apparent problem: When using openbox, applications work fine until I set up my wireless connection. At that point, it becomes impossible to use any icons or menus, and open applications freeze either instantaneously or after a short time. The only solution I have found is to hit the power button. This behaviour does not occur if a new session using fluxbox has been started before attempting to get online. The connection is unencrypted, and otherwise uses the default configuration settings, I am not sure what other information would be relevant here. Indeed, does it even count as a problem if one solution is to use fluxbox?

[edit: to thank Thomas by name]

Last edited by Anomie (2008-04-08 12:18:04 am)


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#18 2008-04-08 2:04:57 am

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

I use WLAN with WPA2 and have no problems in Openbox or Fluxbox. I never experienced the situation you had.

May be you can try to boot with WLAN off into Openbox, switch it on via Fn+F2 and see what happens. Sorry that I cannot write more, this problem is not known from other users.

You can try to use Fluxbox, but I think it is not a problem of the windowmanager. Please check, if the Fn-buttons will work proberly and the onsreen symbols are working. Check also via "top" in a terminal, that the process "asusosd" isn't running with 100%, this might be the problem, if you kill the windowmanager with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace.

No more ideas at the moment ...

fluxflux.

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#19 2008-04-10 1:16:32 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Thanks for your response, fluxflux. I am not seeing the problem now that I have done an SSD install - the wireless is behaving well, and sessions are not freezing.

However, is there a way of enabling both English and Russian language input? I need Russian for my academic work. I have installed the cyrillic files and Russian localisation files via synaptic, but the Computer Configuration appears to only let me choose either/or, whereas I would like both/and: One of the projects I work on requires English and Russian descriptions of websites. The latter option is available on my full PCLinuxOS install on my other box, but I can't seem to find it in this slimmed-down version, and Google has not been friendly.


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#20 2008-04-10 1:30:41 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

To understand you in the right way: You speak about the keyboard layout?

flux.

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#21 2008-04-10 2:23:18 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Two things, in fact, flux: 1] keyboard layout (the ability to switch between English and Russian), and 2] the ability to display Cyrillic characters in terminals. I like to use Vim, invoked from the command line, to edit the XML files that contain the website descriptions I talked about. On my other box, Vim can cope with unicode, but cannot on the eee.

Cheers
Ian


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#22 2008-04-10 2:29:59 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

To toggle keyboard layouts you have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf. For example you add the lines

    Option         "XkbLayout" "en,ru"
    Option         "XkbOptions" "grp:alt_shift_toggle,lv3:ralt_switch,grp_led:scroll"
    Option         "XkbVariant" ",winkeys"

instead of
   
    Option         "XkbLayout" "en,ru"

I hope you use "en", it will work with any other locale too. Restart the X-server after changing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

To display the fonts you have to install the cyrillic fonts.

GVim should work with UTF-8, fluxflux-eee is UTF-8. Please check it with

locale

There should be something like this:

LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_TIME=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_NAME=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Instead of de_DE your locale en_GB I think.

fluxflux.

Last edited by fluxflux (2008-04-10 2:30:19 pm)

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#23 2008-04-10 4:21:13 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

hey! first of all thanks for sharing your customized  distro with everyone

i havent checked this site in a while, installed xp on my eee after playing around with all the alternatives, gentoo ubunto customizing xandros etc, in the end xp seemed a better option.

but i got tired of it and this is really nice,

just installed to the hard drive without any problems
it's actually right beside me doing his first boot.

so right now i have one question and
something weird to report

will it recognize my 2gb of ram

and the something weird it just asked me the root password to run a script (im guessing this is the pre-installer-fix thing that i ran before)
but i got an error saying the folder couldn't be found and i have no background.. (it's probably my faut but) how do i fix this?


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#24 2008-04-10 4:32:42 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

RAM: type

free

or

cat /proc/meminfo

to see, if your 2 GB or RAM are available.

Background: please have a look at my webpage (there is a warning and a solution for this little error)

http://eeelive.org/index-en.html

In "Known problems" and "Download" you will find the fix. This script must be run in livemode before starting the installation to SSD!

If you havn't done this, I can give you a solution in installed mode, which is very simple.

Thank you,

fluxflux.

Last edited by fluxflux (2008-04-10 4:35:20 pm)

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#25 2008-04-10 5:49:47 pm

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Re: fluxflux-eee: full featured English version released

Thanks for the suggestions, flux. Locale does report what you predicted, with en_GB in place of de_DE, and like I said I had installed the cyrillic fonts. I altered /etc/X11/xorg.cong as you suggested, but puzzlingly I was still unable to type Cyrillic. But a bit more searching came up with this thread, which suggested changing
Option         "XkbLayout" "en,ru"
to
Option         "XkbLayout" "us,ru"
and sure enough I can now switch between Russian and English at will. Здорово! Still can't get Cyrillic in Vim when invoked from the command line, but it does work in Gvim, and that's good enough for me.

Thanks for setting me on the right track, thanks to nixOiD for the finishing touch, and like Sakarin said, thanks for sharing this distro with us.

Ian

[edited for better formatting]

Last edited by Anomie (2008-04-10 5:53:15 pm)


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