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#1 2007-11-14 10:41:32 am

maddocks
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Registered: 2007-11-14
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beryl working on stock distro

So obviously you wanna enable the advanced desktop before trying this!!
First we need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to do so go into the console or terminal program and type

sudo kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf

scroll down to the device section for the video card and change the driver from "intel" to "i810" then scroll all the way to the bottom and change the option for composite from "Disabled" to "Enabled"

Now we need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
add the following lines

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main
deb http://debian.beryl-project.org/ etch main

save and exit
now type

wget -O - http://debian.beryl-project.org/root@lupine.me.uk.gpg | sudo apt-key add -

then

sudo apt-get update

now we need to install beryl and sum other programs required so type

sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-data beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings emerald-themes

no we need to mke beryl-manager start automatically so we go back into the console program and type

kwrite ~/.kde/Autostart/beryl-manager.desktop
add the following contents to the text file

[Desktop Entry]
Exec=beryl-manager
Name=Beryl
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=0
Type=Application
X-KDE-SubstitueUID=false

save the file and reboot.
When the system comes back up you should see a red diamond in the tasbar if you give it a right click a menu with many options appear you want your window manager to be "beryl" and window decorator to "emerald"

Sum usefull tips. One shadows dont look right so remove them via the emerald settings. Windows caint be moved above the screen that can be fixed in beryl setting manager, window management,move windows, Misc options. All of my windows where unresponsive and blank until I set the options in advanced beryl options to the following. rendering path = copy, Composite overlay window = cow, rendering platform = aiglx, binding automatic, rendering = indirect. That should get you going I would remove the repos we added except for the beryl one, also dont upgrade any packages with the debian repos enabled and dont install aquamarine it will hose your current install. hope this helps sumone

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#2 2007-11-14 10:55:31 am

polocanada
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Registered: 2007-11-11
Posts: 116

Re: beryl working on stock distro

Wikipedia:

According to the Beryl FAQ, Beryl ran acceptably well on a GeForce 3/Intel i855/Radeon 7500, 256MB of RAM, and a 1.2GHz processor. Version 7.1 of Xorg and a recent version of Mesa 3D was recommended. [1]

Are you saying that Beryl can acceptably run on eeepc?

It must be pretty slow though.

-polo-

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#3 2007-11-14 11:14:21 am

mkrishnan
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Registered: 2007-11-06
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Well, I haven't tried beryl separately, but the version of beryl/compiz that's integrated into Ubuntu Gutsy actually runs generally acceptably on the Eee. Maybe not every single effect, but overall it was quite pleasing.

To the OP -- nice work, and thanks for sharing. Any possibility of some mad screenshots of what your setup looks like with some beryl actions going on?


Mohan

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#4 2007-11-14 2:20:40 pm

x94scorp
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

@maddocks

Thanks, I've been looking for something like this- especially for stock xandros. I will be trying compiz-fusion tonight. Has anyone tried yet? The process is essentially the same, other than different packages.

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#5 2007-11-14 4:59:18 pm

maddocks
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Actually it runs really really well, probly due to the low res screen. I had a dell laptop 1.7ghz 1gb of ram and intel 915 vga card that didnt run neaarly as smooth! I only ran it with 512mb of ram for a little while and noticed hardly any difference when i upgraded to 1gb.Is it true the eee can take a 2gb ram stick? Anywho havent had much luck getten kiba-dock installed mostly cuz im gonna have to compile it and most build-essentials want a libc upgrade which scares me.If anybody has a kiba-dock deb for debian etch let me know.

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#6 2007-11-15 7:49:49 am

x94scorp
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

2GB will work, but the current kernel for the eee only supports up to 1GB. there is a thread here where someone rebuilt the kernel to use 2GB.

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#7 2007-11-15 8:04:50 am

clevin
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

maddocks

can you post a guide for compiz-fusion?

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#8 2007-11-15 10:28:30 am

clevin
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Registered: 2007-11-14
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

ok, i tried beryl as maddocks described

1. all emerald has shadows, and its all black,
2. 3D cube works fine
3. windows content can't display properly, probably means graphic card isn't good enough..

Last edited by clevin (2007-11-15 12:40:28 pm)

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#9 2007-11-15 10:42:13 am

addik
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Registered: 2007-11-02
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

No luck for me, I get a plain white screen all over. Any ideas?

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#10 2007-11-15 11:23:02 am

maddocks
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

So to get rid of the shadows go into the emerald theme manager go into edit themes , then Frame/Shadows bring the opacity for shadows to 0. I mentioned the windows wouldnt work until you set the advanced settings for beryl to what I specififed. After you do that windows render/work perfect!

From previous post "All of my windows where unresponsive and blank until I set the options in advanced beryl options to the following. rendering path = copy, Composite overlay window = cow, rendering platform = aiglx, binding automatic, rendering = indirect. That should get you going I would remove the repos we added except for the beryl one, also dont upgrade any packages with the debian repos enabled and dont install aquamarine it will hose your current install"

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#11 2007-11-15 5:29:51 pm

br00tal
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

I brought the opacity to 0, but it won't save for some reason, and it doesn't do anything at all, really.  I guess I'll have to keep tinkering around with it for a while.

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#12 2007-11-16 10:56:59 am

maddocks
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

after tinkering with the emerald settings its always a good idea to goto the last tab and save the changes you have made. As for Compiz/fusion the only debs ive seen are for gutsy and the like with way to many lib upgrades required for my likes. I havent figured out a way to get gcc or the build-essentials installed without a libc upgrade which scares me. Im in the process of trying to install the stock distro to a bootable sdhc card to use as a testbed, all ive seen on the forums are ways to restore from sd I wanna boot from the sd using the stock distro besides most my stuff is from trial and error and I would prefer those writes to be on a cheap easily replacable card rather then the soldered in one.

If you like i could post my emerald theme its the base one without shadows. Also in response to running compiz/fusion on ubuntu, i installed ubuntu on the fastest 4gb sdhc card i could find and it wasnt nearly as responsive even when adding a swap partition

Last edited by maddocks (2007-11-16 11:06:47 am)

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#13 2007-11-19 12:27:52 am

Adamn
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

I got this working, and the 3d desktop is a brilliant addition to eee's little screen.

This, should be refined and added to the wiki


Asus EEE upgraded to 2gigs ram, Xfce4 over Standard Xandros

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#14 2007-11-19 3:21:22 am

cardinalblue
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

I had the same problem as addik (the white screen of death when starting beryl-manager).  I searched around, and it sounds like this is a common problem with beryl, but none of the suggested fixes helped me.

Is anyone else having the white screen show up after following maddocks' instructions?

Thanks

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#15 2007-11-19 2:37:09 pm

maddocks
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

make sure xorg.conf has the driver set to i810 and at the end of the file you have

Section "Extensions"
    Option        "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

and also check the advanced settings. Have you updated the kernel libs etc? is dri enabled? glxinfo seems to have disappeared from my install i know i used it before maybe u still got it run it and see if dri is enabled.Have you made any other changes to xorg.conf? the other lines most pages suggest would wreak serious havoc

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#16 2007-11-19 2:41:39 pm

mustiy
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

I tried the instructions you gave, everything worked very nice expect 2 things:

No matter what i tried the shadow borders on tool-tips wouldn't go away, and berly seemed to lag the EEE somewhat, would upgrading to 1 gig solve the lag?

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#17 2007-11-19 3:45:38 pm

cardinalblue
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

maddocks wrote:

make sure xorg.conf has the driver set to i810 and at the end of the file you have

Section "Extensions"
    Option        "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

and also check the advanced settings. Have you updated the kernel libs etc? is dri enabled? glxinfo seems to have disappeared from my install i know i used it before maybe u still got it run it and see if dri is enabled.Have you made any other changes to xorg.conf? the other lines most pages suggest would wreak serious havoc

I haven't made any other changes to the xorg.conf.

I don't seem to have glxinfo on my system either (should be in /usr/X11R6/bin).  I checked the xorg log file and it looks like the "dri" LoadModule is working.

(II) intel(0): [DRI] installation complete

One thing that might be interesting is that when I load "glx", I'm getting an AIGLX disabled in my log.   I'm assuming that this is a non-issue, b/c I thought we are writing directly to the graphics hardware.

Any other ideas?  Thanks for the help maddocks.  You got me looking into dri, and I've learned a bit about X window rendering in the process.  smile

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#18 2007-11-19 9:02:22 pm

cardinalblue
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Another interesting observation:

I looked at my /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers directory to see what drivers are present on the machine.  Here, I noticed that the file "i810_drv.so" is simply a symbolic link to intel_drv.so.  Is this the case on your system too, maddocks?

The intel_drv.so file is 293028 bytes and is dated 9/13.

Thanks

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#19 2007-11-20 10:40:48 am

x94scorp
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

thanks maddocks, beryl is working well. appears that there is some trouble with transparency though? the emerald themes that use a transparent window decoration don't look very good. anyone know how to fix.

i've also tried finding repos for compiz-fusion and that has been a no go. they want to change stock libraries and does not look compatible. anyone find anything for compiz-fusion? thanks all.

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#20 2007-11-21 4:30:14 am

barnesy
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Another white screen bug here.  I can see things start to happen if I press ctrl-alt and an arrow key, but it's not working.  I didn't make it autostart, so it's no big deal, but would be nice to get working.

The bigger problem is that the power button doesn't bring up the shutdown dialog any more!  I use it a lot, so it seems that following these instructions broke it.  Any ideas?

edit - The power button came back.  But I've no idea why!  I tried a few reboots/power downs which didn't fix it, then it started working.

Last edited by barnesy (2007-11-21 5:33:01 am)

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#21 2007-11-21 8:15:57 am

Arachnid
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Registered: 2007-11-12
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

This worked for me, thanks maddocks for the guide. However, running beryl seems to screw with video playback: in mplayer the video is very slow and choppy & audio sync is way off. in vlc i get audio but no video (black screen). Any one else experiencing this? Any fixes?

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#22 2007-11-21 9:13:09 am

maddocks
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

2 things white screens when i started with compiz then quinstorm then beryl was mostly caused by xgl which until recently was the only way to get ati drivers to work. Another problem with xgl is that the power down reboot buttons disappear.(which can be solved via a simpl hack) but it seems that sum of the problems people are having sound to similiar.

2nd on video playback playback will be choppy and the video will even be blank if the wrong video output module is chosen.

I do have 1gb of ram which i added very shortly after installing beryl but i never saw to much of a lag tho.

AIGLX should NOT be reported as diasabled mine reports
AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so
the reason i use i810 for driver not intel is cuz I caint get intel to load the i915 dri module. The people who cant make it work get white screens etc. type
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep dri 
u should see
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
(II) intel(0): [drm] created "i915" driver at busid "pci:0000:00:02.0"
(II) intel(0): [dri] visual configs initialized
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so

if it doesnt mention AIGLX being enabled or it mentions xgl (dunno how that could happen accidentally but) then I would check xorg.conf again look in synaptic for any xgl related packages. Also people with white screens did you upgrade/downgrade or otherwise change your mesa packages?

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#23 2007-11-28 2:20:31 pm

ILAMtitan
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Hey guys, thanks for the info on this.  When I first set it up following maddocks instructions, I got the white screen.  After poking around I found that AIGLX was set to false by default in my xorg.conf, setting it to true fixed everything and it runs great now.  I hope this helps anyone still struggling with the white screen.

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#24 2007-12-06 5:26:11 am

travisdk
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Registered: 2007-11-28
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Re: beryl working on stock distro

Hi all,

I was tinkering with the beryl setup and also ends up with white screen of death (autostarts).
I am a linux noob so please can someone explain how to break the autostarting enabling me
to fix things ?

Cheers
travisdk

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#25 2007-12-06 5:44:56 am

madmandegge
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From: United Kingdom
Registered: 2007-11-28
Posts: 175

Re: beryl working on stock distro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biRzKj3XxCY

Seems legit, looks as good as it did on my macbook!

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