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#1 2007-11-13 10:08:33 am

ninelocks
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Palm applications on eeePC

Thought this might be of interest.

http://www.access-company.com/developer … index.html

Its a debugging tool Palm Simulator for PalmOS. I downloaded it unpacked it on my eeePC and on screen I have a Palm PDA.

I'll do some notes meantime a picture of this on www.ninelocks.com/blog

Jon

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#2 2007-11-13 1:22:50 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Nice post. The Garnet OS VM says in the release notes that there's no launcher included with the "release" emulater (as opposed to debuggin). I may try to get this in a workable state, so that I can use some of my PalmOS apps.

Access released the VM for Nokia internet tablets (running a debian-based linux), so maybe if we pester them, they'll release it for us, too. http://www.access-company.com/about/con … ml#general

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#3 2007-11-13 1:28:43 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Oh no, you can't do that!  If you start using Palm apps on your EEE PC, then someone might call it a PDA and your feelings will be hurt!  Please show some decency!

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#4 2007-11-13 1:46:07 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

deadDuck wrote:

Access released the VM for Nokia internet tablets (running a debian-based linux), so maybe if we pester them, they'll release it for us, too. http://www.access-company.com/about/con … ml#general

Well its been getting called a "wee PC" by some but then I am based in Scotland so its no surprise :-)

It would be good if Access made the GVM available for more than Nokia.

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#5 2007-11-13 4:07:19 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

If you can write code for a seperate platform on it, it's *NOT* a PDA!


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#6 2007-11-13 10:30:39 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

GoatBoy wrote:

Oh no, you can't do that!  If you start using Palm apps on your EEE PC, then someone might call it a PDA and your feelings will be hurt!  Please show some decency!

You're right, everyone duck and cover -- the guy is transforming it into a PDA... OOOh the humanity!

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#7 2007-11-13 11:04:10 pm

linux_geek_wannabee
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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Hey ninelocks, would you mind going through the steps after downloading the file, like how to install it, for dummies, that is? Thanks,

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#8 2007-11-14 2:06:58 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Sure  will do a how to.

Quick one is......download,
double click and unpack it, drag contents somewhere ,
I had a folder called palm in my home area.

then in your palm or whatever you called it folder is a bin folder and within it
linux_dbg and linux_rel folders

In the  linux_dbg folder create a folder called autoload.
In autoload put any palm program you want on the virtual pda.
Then start  the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder

The version in linux_rel does not have an application launcher.

Does that help?

if not PM me and I'll do what I can to assist

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#9 2007-11-14 4:47:59 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

deadDuck wrote:

Well its been getting called a "wee PC" by some but then I am based in Scotland so its no surprise :-)

I've done that, and I'm not even Scottish... wink

Want some proof?:
http://www.hookedgamers.com/index_full. … ntion.html

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#10 2007-11-14 9:59:48 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

ninelocks wrote:

Sure  will do a how to.

Quick one is......download,
double click and unpack it, drag contents somewhere ,
I had a folder called palm in my home area.

IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download it. I have developed software for PalmOS in the past (which is why I am interested in running this), and so I was able to log in and download. Once I have some time to mess around with it (I've been trying to get Advanced Mode to work flawlessly, I think I'm there, check out the wiki), I may repost it somewhere with instructions, although I think that would violate the terms of the ADN membership.

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#11 2007-11-14 10:22:14 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

deadDuck wrote:

IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download  .

Yeh I expected it to need the login but it doesnt seem to, unless Ive got my login details cached of every machine Ive tried on :-) Palm platform could get a new lease of life with a few different VMs around the place. Palm dev is great fun :-) especially when they keeping changing bits of the API between devices.

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#12 2007-11-14 3:07:23 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

ninelocks wrote:

Then start  the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder

I didn't add any .prc files to the autoload folder, but when I start gvm it just seg faults. Did you have that problem?

And when you did get it working, how do you do data entry without a touch screen?

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#13 2007-11-14 3:08:44 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

deadDuck wrote:

IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download it.

I just scrolled down to the end of the page with the terms, and downloaded it. I didn't log in and I'm not registered on ADN.


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#14 2007-11-15 1:37:24 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

midtoad wrote:

ninelocks wrote:

Then start  the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder

I didn't add any .prc files to the autoload folder, but when I start gvm it just seg faults. Did you have that problem?

And when you did get it working, how do you do data entry without a touch screen?

Nope didnt get seg faults. And you just use the mouse. :-)
We should be getting a couple more eeePCs in soon, when they arrive I'll do an install on them and see what happens.

Jon

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#15 2007-11-23 8:54:09 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

ninelocks wrote:

Nope didnt get seg faults. And you just use the mouse. :-)
We should be getting a couple more eeePCs in soon, when they arrive I'll do an install on them and see what happens.

Jon

Awesome.  Were you able to start up the hotsync application and do a sync?

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#16 2007-11-23 11:19:02 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Heck, I'm still trying to get KPilot to consistently acknowledge - and then sync - my TX. The idea of sticking on a 'virtual PDA' seems fraught with disappointment and counter intuitive to the device.


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#17 2007-11-23 12:08:32 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Another option for emulating Palm hardware is POSE, which is in the Debian distribution and probably Xandos as well.

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#18 2007-11-23 6:56:22 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Is there a way to use the palm apps expanded to fill a large portion of the Eee screen?

With PdaReach I can run apps installed on my Treo phone, on the desktop, enlarged X2, but it would be nice to use apps that are not installed on the phone and to enlarge them to fit the full vertical height of the screen.

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#19 2007-12-14 2:04:01 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

I just tried this and it worked just fine for the basic install.  Will try some progs and get back to ya.

~crossandflame

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#20 2007-12-25 2:50:33 pm

howard
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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

crossandflame wrote:

I just tried this and it worked just fine for the basic install.  Will try some progs and get back to ya.

Any luck with hotsyncing?  Man, if I could get at the DateBk6 cal stuff brought in on a wifi hotsync...

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#21 2008-02-15 4:23:24 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

any way to make the screen larger?maybe use a different program?

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#22 2008-05-31 5:59:16 am

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

Err.. could someone please post a simple how-to for a linux newbie?
I downloaded the tgz file. I extracted - and am running into  abit of problem

OK I extracted the files to ./gvm, and edited the gvm.conf file
Running ./gvm runs Garnet VM but I only get a "Shell"
How do I see the full OS?

Thanks

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#23 2009-11-10 6:05:22 pm

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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

is there an update to this link? I cant seem to find this virtual machine on any of the access site's. I inherited one of the first eee 700 with xandros and I really want to run my palm apps on it.



ninelocks wrote:

Thought this might be of interest.

http://www.access-company.com/developer … index.html

Its a debugging tool Palm Simulator for PalmOS. I downloaded it unpacked it on my eeePC and on screen I have a Palm PDA.

I'll do some notes meantime a picture of this on www.ninelocks.com/blog

Jon

Last edited by obis (2009-11-10 6:05:58 pm)

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#24 2009-11-14 10:53:05 pm

paivaf
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Re: Palm applications on eeePC

two questions:
1- is it advisable to download the new ubuntu version in a eeePC?
2- is there a simple method to sync a palm T/X with the same eee above?

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