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#1 2007-11-12 3:19:07 pm

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HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Ok, the standard disclaimers apply here, in fact in doing this the first time I had to restore my install from the hidden partition, and I'm sure I'm doing all sorts of things non-standard (even though it's only a few steps)...so...play at your own risk. smile

0. INSTALL XANDROS REPOS (see http://wiki.eeeuser.com/addingxandrosrepos )

(Now, taken from http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:getkde )

1. Open a console window (CNTL-ALT-T).
2. Type the following to install ksmserver and kicker, the two programs we need (answer Y if it asks you if you're sure you want to install anything):
3. sudo bash
4. apt-get update
5. apt-get install ksmserver kicker
6. Restart (should go to Easy Mode)

NOW....

7. CNTL-ALT-T again
8. sudo bash
9. apt-get install gnome

At step 9, it will most likely ****-out halfway through due to a conflict in overwriting a package file from udev by the newly-installed package libsound_id0 (replacing an .so file, forget exactly which one).

To progress past this (and remember, this will probably break things, but so far I haven't experienced anything horrible)...

10. dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libvolume-id0_0.105-4_i386.deb

After this is done, repeat the previous command to continue the Gnome installation:

11. apt-get install gnome

This should finish the install pretty smoothly. Now, (back-up and) edit the /usr/bin/startsimple.sh script using your favorite text editor.

12. cp /usr/bin/startsimple.sh /usr/bin/startsimple.sh.orig

13. vim /usr/bin/startsimple.sh

On line 26, change "exec startkde" to "exec gnome-session". Now, when you log out of Easy mode, you should get the "Full Desktop" option - but instead of launching KDE, it should launch Gnome.


Note: I have experienced, upon launching Gnome, that it complains about dbus and Power management. Any suggestions/fixes welcome.

Hope this helps anyone looking to install Gnome on their eee, whilst keeping the default (and most compatible) Xandros install! Have fun!


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#2 2007-11-12 9:28:20 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

I would prefer gnome over KDE.  Does wifi work? Shutdown and suspend?

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#3 2007-11-12 9:42:13 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Wifi should work fine, I'm not sure about suspend though - haven't tried it.


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#4 2007-11-12 9:43:39 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Did you pay attention to the approximate disk space hit incurred? Is it a lot?


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#5 2007-11-12 9:50:54 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

I am not able to get the apt-get to work. It can't resolve the repositories.


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#6 2007-11-12 10:36:40 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

bandaidcork wrote:

I am not able to get the apt-get to work. It can't resolve the repositories.

I hate to ask the obvious but have you added the debian repos properly?

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#7 2007-11-12 11:23:07 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

mkrishnan wrote:

Did you pay attention to the approximate disk space hit incurred? Is it a lot?

used up around 500MB more less, i'm still installing. got that msg 'bout the disk space after apt-get install gnome

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#8 2007-11-12 11:55:05 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

I got it to run ion as my window manager with the same tweak to /usr/bin/startsimple.sh a few days ago but if I tap the power button when it's running ion, it starts shutting down right away, without asking me anything, as opposed to popping up a window with shutdown options like in KDE. Are you experiencing any similar problems with gnome or is it just me?

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#9 2007-11-13 12:54:45 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

DonkeyBeliever wrote:

bandaidcork wrote:

I am not able to get the apt-get to work. It can't resolve the repositories.

I hate to ask the obvious but have you added the debian repos properly?

Please note my original post - I didn't add the Debian repos, I added the Xandros repos.

In pure (unpacked) package content, it was ~170MB download w/'apt-get install gnome'. I'm imagining the ~500MB was because of the wrong repos. Nowhere near out of storage space.


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#10 2007-11-13 1:06:34 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

this method also works with installing Xfce4, which I had tried to get working in a previous thread.

the difference is, instead of entering "gnome-session" into the /user/bin/startsimple.sh, you add "xfce4-session" instead. (after of course, adding the xandros repos, and apt-get install xfce4 )

This thread is also of importance, because I think that in getting compiz working under the standard xandros operating system (which makes, many, many things easier, and faster) will come from running gnome over xandros.

I had it (sorta) running earlier, but I'm not sure how to configure it, and it appeared to be "broken", despite animating my windows, and menus.


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#11 2007-11-13 1:07:41 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

also, perhaps this information should be added to the wiki under the heading of "alternate window managers"


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#12 2007-11-13 1:30:35 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Adamn wrote:

also, perhaps this information should be added to the wiki under the heading of "alternate window managers"

I'd second that. My original intention was to just wipe Xandros off completely and start with Ubuntu when I got it, but remembering all of the headaches I've ever gone through getting atheros wifi working, power management, etc...  I figured "Hey, it's still Debian-based, it can't be THAT bad..." and to my utter delight, Xandros seems to have been finely tuned for this machine, with all the hardware working out of the box (imagine that!).

I would definitely recommend sticking with the default OS and just, say, install other software from the Xandros repos. I'm sure you could find 90% of what you want through that, anyway. And man...that Asus launcher isn't actually half bad, it's like a Palm interface. When you just want to look up a website or check your e-mail real quick, this is much faster than any full blown WM/IDE. AND, of course, you can edit the tabs/entries with a single RC file. Reminds me of Fluxbox. smile


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#13 2007-11-13 2:02:08 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

now, the other hard part, would be gracefully switching between gnome/kde/xfce/icewm(easy mode)

session managment is still a problem.


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#14 2007-11-13 2:06:37 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Adamn wrote:

now, the other hard part, would be gracefully switching between gnome/kde/xfce/icewm(easy mode)

session managment is still a problem.

Actually, if we could get pure GDM to run we'd have it built in already (replace line 26 with "gdm" maybe?).

I had this going (and saw all of the choices in the 'Sessions' menu), but it was right before I toasted the install by editing the startsimple.sh script wrong. wink Infinate X11 re-loading with no vtswitch sucks. wink

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#15 2007-11-13 4:32:55 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Adamn wrote:

now, the other hard part, would be gracefully switching between gnome/kde/xfce/icewm(easy mode)

session managment is still a problem.

But why would you want all those window managers? You only have 4gigs to play with...

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#16 2007-11-13 4:44:20 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Jon Bradbury wrote:

Adamn wrote:

now, the other hard part, would be gracefully switching between gnome/kde/xfce/icewm(easy mode)

session managment is still a problem.

But why would you want all those window managers? You only have 4gigs to play with...

Umm...because you CAN?  Because it's Linux?

Need I say more? smile


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#17 2007-11-13 9:36:27 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Sava wrote:

mkrishnan wrote:

Did you pay attention to the approximate disk space hit incurred? Is it a lot?

used up around 500MB more less, i'm still installing. got that msg 'bout the disk space after apt-get install gnome

Eeeep! yikes

Good to know. Seems like it's going to be a bit of a holdover until Ubuntu is fully working, as Ubuntu with Gnome will take a lot less space than adding so much to the Xandros build.

Good luck, though!


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#18 2007-11-13 12:45:17 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Does this install the gnome network manager? And does gnome network manager support WPA Enterprise through its GUI?

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#19 2007-11-13 4:24:22 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

lns wrote:

Actually, if we could get pure GDM to run we'd have it built in already (replace line 26 with "gdm" maybe?).

I had this going (and saw all of the choices in the 'Sessions' menu), but it was right before I toasted the install by editing the startsimple.sh script wrong. wink Infinate X11 re-loading with no vtswitch sucks. wink

I installed gdm, but I can't figure out how to get it to run. I put in "exec gdm" in line 26 of startsimple.sh, but all it did when I gave it my password at the login screen, was to try to load something for a while, then loop back to the (default Xandros) login screen. I also tried putting /usr/sbin/gdm in /etc/X11/default-display-manager, but I rather doubt the Eee OS even looks at that file when it's loading. Perhaps I'm making some obvious mistake here that I'm not seeing? I don't have gnome installed, but I'm not sure that would really affect anything.


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#20 2007-11-13 7:27:46 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Is there any way to access gnome without editing the simplestart file? I want to be sure it works before changing that file.


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#21 2007-11-13 10:07:25 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

I did it and all is well, it turns out that the eee used the Debian repositories. I had no problems, I just had to get rid of the Debian branding.


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#22 2007-11-14 5:34:49 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

If you intend on using gnome/xfce fulltime instead of KDE. After doing the above, is it safe to remove kde completely so to free up some disk space?


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#23 2007-11-14 1:02:04 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

lns wrote:

In pure (unpacked) package content, it was ~170MB download w/'apt-get install gnome'. I'm imagining the ~500MB was because of the wrong repos. Nowhere near out of storage space.

well it says:

Need to get 170MB of archives
After unpacking, 552MB of additional disk space will be used.

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#24 2007-11-29 2:04:11 am

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

Straylit Me wrote:

If you intend on using gnome/xfce fulltime instead of KDE. After doing the above, is it safe to remove kde completely so to free up some disk space?

i tried using "sudo apt-get remove kde" but it said no kde package. is there a way to get rid of the kde so it only has gnome on the eee to save space?

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#25 2007-12-04 10:49:17 pm

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Re: HOWTO: Installing Gnome w/default Xandros install

hey all

im trying to get xfce4 to work, but having problems

i follow as gnome, but i dont get the error specified, i get another crazy error about kde management, and choose to overright or keep the original, either way, it seems to install ok, and if i type in a terminal xfce4-session it loads up, (albeit ontop of stuff), but whenever i change it in my simple session, it never loads up, and i get same old simple ICE/KDE thing

ill try and post with more info/error in the morning, but wonder if anyone else had this/found a solution

cheers

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