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#1 2008-03-08 1:10:28 pm

jdskeleven
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Writing on the EEE PC

I've been looking for a small, light laptop that doesn't cost a lot, and obviously it wasn't long before I came across the EEE PC. As tempted as I am to get one, there's one thing holding me back - I'm planning on using it to write when I'm away from home (probably only for an hour or two a day at the most), and I'm worried that the keyboard will make that impossible. I have quite big fingers, and I'm used to typing on a full-sized keyboard!

The EEE PC wouldn't be my primary writing tool (I'd still be using a desktop for that), but it wouldn't be any good if it was painstakingly slow to get anything down in OpenOffice. Has anyone here used it to write quite long-ish stuff (ie more than just a few short forum posts or the like)? Thanks!

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#2 2008-03-08 1:30:15 pm

rickh
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I use OpenOffice quite a bit on an Eee. 

Initially it took a bit to get used to the keyboard, probably a good week.  I won't lie - that first week wasn't pleasant.  But I kept reading (here) that if I kept at it, I'd soon be used to the keyboard and everybody was right.  I can type almost as fast as I can on a full sized keyboard.  Granted, my hands aren't huge, but they're not that small either.

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#3 2008-03-08 1:34:08 pm

jraff
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I have biggish fingers myself, and had no problems getting used to the keyboard, in little time.

But even if I'm used to it, I still don't enjoy typing on it for long period of time - basically simply because I don't like having my hands that close to the screen, and to each other. It makes for an akward back/neck/wrist position. To me, at least.

However when I ordered my Eee, since I was afraid that I wouldnt like the keyboard at all, I ordered a portable one, that fits in my messenger bag. So if I'm just out and about, I'll type directly on my Eee, but if I'm going out to write in a cafe or something, then I'll bring my extra usb keyboard (and mouse) so I can the type for hours without strain.

Maybe this could be a solution for you as well?

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#4 2008-03-08 1:43:36 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I use my EEE to take notes in class - an hour and half for each session.  I was also worried about the keyboard so I ordered a roll-up keyboard.  Frankly, I don't like the way the roll-up feels, so I'm sticking with the EEE's keyboard.  But I have smaller fingers too.  It also helps to sit upright wink  I can't type as well if I'm lounging.


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#5 2008-03-08 1:51:09 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I have only had mine a few days but it is confortable to write on already. You have to press to keys a little harder that a standard pc keyboard but it dosent take very long untill you do it second nature. i just wrote a very long review in here about installing Eeexubuntu on it and it was very easy using this keyboard.  BTW I have some pretty big fingers too.

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#6 2008-03-08 2:43:15 pm

jdskeleven
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Thanks for the replies!

I was also thinking of going the USB keyboard route, but I'll try it out with the built-in keyboard first to see how I do.

One more quick question: I'm planning on using the default Linux install on 'Advanced Mode'. Is there any point in getting extra RAM, or will the default 512MB be enough for that?

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#7 2008-03-08 3:08:23 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I'd try it on 512MB first. It really depends on how much you multitask. If / when you realize that you're running low on memory frequently, you can always order a 1GB or 2GB module. I used mine with Xandros and Ubuntu for four months before going to 2GB this weekend.


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#8 2008-03-08 3:26:11 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I've got larg-ish hands and am using my Eee a lot for writing and I am getting much better at it. Also, I'm using advanced mode with the latest Open Office and I usually have BasKet open as well as Firefox and I haven't had any memory problems yet with the default 512.


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#9 2008-03-08 4:03:09 pm

stan
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I thought I would get used to the keyboard and for the most part did, but after a month or two I am finding I am frustrated that the writing is going so slow.  Keys that double type, space bar that doesn't always space but most of the time does, I find myself watching the screen constantly to be sure something hasn't gone wrong and it usually has.  I doubt I get a line without something wrong.

Not sure an additional keyboard is a great answer since it won't fit in the case, and why use an add on keyboard as big/bigger than the computer :-)

I'm seriously thinking of going back to my wince machine that has a near full keyboard but limited in programs that I can run.  May work with the eee and type with the mobilepro, but then no cutting and pasting and that is part of why I bought the eee - to do the research.

I may hit asus up for a new keyboard and see if that helps.  It is a "cheapy.)

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#10 2008-03-08 4:50:56 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

On the flip side of complaining about the keyboard, there are people who are finding it nice to type on.  I'm to the point where I prefer my eee keyboard over my full sized desktop keyboard.   I actually type faster on the eee.  I think it has to do with the fact that my fingers have to travel less distance to get to the keys.  Yes, I do feel that there is a motor skill learning curve but it's not very steep.

I typed 5 pages of text last week without taking a break and had no problems and found it enjoyable.  This is like another other keyboard, sitting in bed with your computer on your lap doesn't count (you don't do that with your desktop keyboard do you?).  Sit at a proper table, in a proper chair and your typing will be fine.

check this thread for other people who have come to enjoy the eee keyboard.
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=16074


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#11 2008-03-08 5:52:49 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

1) I found the keyboard tricky to get used to, but that's mostly because I have the machine in sub-optimal places.  I wouldn't like to try to type on it for more than 2 hours.

2) About "advanced mode" - try the half-way house of "tweaked simple".  You get Xandros, IceWM, and a bunch of themes.  The machine loads really fast, runs most of your software, but you don't have the problems of a full kde thing.


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#12 2008-03-08 7:33:24 pm

yardcoyote
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Registered: 2007-12-28
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I use my Eee primarily for writing-- usually at least 1 or 2 hours a day, and sometimes more.  It's replaced a whole stack of notebooks; I use it to write and plan my monthly comics column, and I'm even writing a long piece of "Eee fiction".

I've stuck with Easy Mode because it works fine, and I don't think Advanced Mode will give me any real benefits besides looking more like a "real computer".  (That's not important to me, and I don't care what anybody else thinks about my interface!)  The keyboard is quite easy for me to use to use after an adjustment period. I don't feel like I've lost anything in speed, accuracy, or ergonomics compared to my full sized desktop's keyboard. I just put on my "Eee hat" when I sit down at the little computer and off I go. It helps, I think, that I am an idiosyncratic rather than a formally trained typist.  I usually use my Eee on a lapboard rather than a table, but either works.

A few Eee/OO writing tips: 

Think seriously about using a larger font during composition than you will use in your final draft.  I work in 15 point type for ease in viewing on the Eee's screen and then reformat the final version in Word on my desktop.   

Try various fonts in OO to find one that is easy in your eyes.  I'm currently using the Serif version of the default font.

Adjust your View.  The "web view" option under the View menu givs you a lot more room to work than the "page view" that is the default, while still leaving all the menus and buttons visible.  Remove the ruler from the view to get another line or two of space.  If the changeover to web view takes too long, consider dividing your file into sections.

If you have MS Word on your desktop, don't panic when you move a file created in OO over there, and it shows up in a very peculiar font.  (For some reason my own version of Word interprets the Serif font as Greek letters, which I find amusing.)  Just "select all" and change the font when you change the size.  You'll find that all your data is there.  For some reason, moving from Word to OO doesn't seem to cause the same problems.  If this font issue bothers you, there is a way to install the basic Word fonts onto OO, but I've never bothered.

The Eee is, in my opinion, an excellent digital notebook for writers.  I would have no problem writing a novel on mine.  Or, rather, I would have no problems that came from the Eee.


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#13 2008-03-09 12:09:43 am

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Not sure an additional keyboard is a great answer since it won't fit in the case

This is the waterproof, rollable keyboard one of the posters was talking about http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/Sear … ctID=12939
I have one but can't use it until I get a P/S2 to USB adapter. I've had it for years.


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#14 2008-03-09 4:14:01 am

jdskeleven
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

yardcoyote, thanks for the in-depth reply!

I probably won't even be installing many (or any, even) more programs than what comes with the EEE PC, but I was wondering how easy file management is on the 'simple' mode? I'm used to having a desktop and being able to move my files around any way I want, and I thought it would be odd not being able to do that on a traditional desktop.

I use OpenOffice in my desktop PC as well, and in fact I've never used anything else to write! (Well, one of the old Apple programs in the past, but that was a long time ago!). So I won't have any problems with formatting issues. I'll try out web view once I get the EEE PC smile

As for an additional keyboard, I'd be carrying it in a backpack anyway, and I imagine the EEE PC and a small keyboard still wouldn't add up to the same weight or size as a big Dell laptop!

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#15 2008-03-09 4:16:33 am

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I bought a couple of the rollup keyboards (compact and full-size) to use with my PDA a few years ago, but I never got the knack using them due to the mushy/rubbery keys.  Also, even when rolled up, it was still too bulky to keep in the case I used to carry my PDA and accessories.  I ended up getting a Fellowes Stowaway USB keyboard with "normal" keys.  The keyboard folded up in quarters down to a compact 3.5"x5"x.9" size.  I believe it was a rebadge of a ThinkOutside keyboard.  Unfortunately, this keyboard is no longer manufactured, but it might be available on eBay.  ThinkOutside's current similar model only folds in half, is a bit larger than mine, and uses Bluetooth instead of USB connection:  http://www.igo.com/product.asp?sku=2524884

One of these units might also come in handy for the eee PC as an external keyboard.


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#16 2008-03-09 7:27:13 am

Brent
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

The soul purpose of my Eee is to be my writing vehicle.

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#17 2008-03-09 8:35:05 am

stan
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Thanks for the tips on keyboards, had wondered of the rollups but wasn't sure how they would work.  I have a foldable for my Dell axim that works great, will look into that!!!!

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#18 2008-03-09 10:31:22 am

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I tried a roll-up keyboard the other day - horrible!  How can anyone use those things?


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#19 2008-03-09 11:15:54 am

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Like most have said on here, its takes a bit of getting used to but once you adapt it great.

I write using the eee pc everyday. Magazine articles, short stories, poetry etc... Its how i make money. I write using a larger font than normal and zoom in so both the margins just disappear of the edge of the screen. As for adapting to the keyboard size well that was very quick. Maybe 30 minutes of typing then away i went. Those 30minutes did drive me mad because you have to learn to be very precise about what key you are pressing due to the small size.

All my finished writing i then double check on my desktop on 22" wide-screen monitor. I alternate between the two with ease, i surprised myself. I thought i would be selling the eee after a few days. I know love it.

Also quite a few friends who also write have adapted to the eee's size with ease, so it must be about keeping an open mind and patients. I know some people that are writing novels on the eee so it can't be that bad.


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#20 2008-03-09 1:05:19 pm

yardcoyote
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I find the Eee's File Manager a breeze to use.  I suppose if you have the Advanced Mode activated you can leave File Manager on the desktop, but in Easy it's in the Work tab with your word processor so it's not exactly hard to find.  Once you get there, it's all files and folders and moving things around around using copy/cut and paste (which is the way I always do it) works the same way as it does in XP.  Drag and drop works, too.


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#21 2008-03-09 2:43:16 pm

arlinora
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Yardcoyote - instead of changing the font size in  OO, you can increase the Zoom %.  I have my view set to 135% (no rulers, using Page View).  Then you don't have to change your font size.


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#22 2008-03-09 8:37:56 pm

derwent
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

Dear jdskeleven,

A point about typing on the eeepc which has not been made yet - it depends on the type of typist you are. The difficulties may be greater if you are a touch typist, than if you are a two fingered typist.

I am a touch typist, and I find the eee pc keyboard painful to use for extensive writing. It hurts my wrists more than normal size keyboards.

I think that two-fingered typists are affected much less. For them, the main annoyances are more related to the layout.

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#23 2008-03-27 5:34:06 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I bought the eee because I'm a writer and I needed something smaller than a laptop to lug around.

For this purpose, the eee is great, but the keyboard is problematic.  Very cramped, prone to doubling letters or missing space bar clicks, etc.

It's workable, especially when sitting properly at a desk.  Working with the unit in your lap or in bed doubles the amount of errors for me.

Type is small, but readable and there are various ways to adjust its size.

All in all, I love the unit but it would be even better with a good keyboard.   

I previously used a NEC MobilePro 900c for its portability.  This is essentially a PDA with a WordPad style writing program, but it has a keyboard that's 90% of a normal keyboard in size that is just fantastic.

Anyone out there at ASUS, please cram your next masterpiece with a MobilePro 900 keyboard....

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#24 2008-03-27 6:02:38 pm

Domaris
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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

My only suggestion would be to do like I did and actually go to a store you know carries EEE PCs and try typing a bit with it to see how it feels and everything

Before I found this website, I went to MicroCenter to test the keyboard, the card reader and see how the card fit in there, test the size of the screen and everything, so I wouldn't be surprised by anything when I receive mine.


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#25 2008-03-27 8:46:10 pm

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Re: Writing on the EEE PC

I also plan on using my eee primarily for writing my novel(Yes, I am one of those people) I bought it figuring that I can write a bit here and there whenever inspiration strikes, and for any serious writing stint I will plug in my favorite keyboard. I'm also planning on getting one of the new G5 mice as well. It should make everything quite comfortable. Honestly I don't much like typing on any low profile keyboard, but it is hard to argue with portability.

...maybe I'll get a ps/2 to USB adapter and lug around an IBM model M with me.


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