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HDD Upgrade Mod - 30 gig Apricorn Aegis Mini - Successful! The 1.8" drive fits with some case modifications, and the USB needs to be an external plug that sticks out a little bit. It took me at least 30 hours to do this project. Apricorn does sell the mini 1.8" drive iwth up to 120 gigs, but I am not sure I want to spend more $ on this project yet.
Mike
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Oh wow!!! I didn't think that would fit anywhere! Please, post lots of pics and a tutorial. That would ROCK!!
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mikelpn wrote:
HDD Upgrade Mod - 30 gig Apricorn Aegis Mini - Successful! The 1.8" drive fits with some case modifications, and the USB needs to be an external plug that sticks out a little bit. It took me at least 30 hours to do this project. Apricorn does sell the mini 1.8" drive iwth up to 120 gigs, but I am not sure I want to spend more $ on this project yet.
Mike
If your telling the truth, and post a decent guide, id be very gracious.
Supposedly there are some unused USB ports on the motherboard, would it be possible for an internal hookup?
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http://photobucket.com/
create an account and post away ![]()
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Some photos of the Apricorn Aegis Mini 1.8" HDD install. Sorry, I don't have time for the entire disassembly procedure, but I believe others have posted it before. The installation is fairly straightforward after many hours of engineering on my part. I tried a USB internal hub, but something funky happens with the recognition when the wires get too long and are not properly insulated with ground shield. Anyway, enjoy the pictures!
http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd312/mikelpn_EeePC/
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mikelpn wrote:
Some photos of the Apricorn Aegis Mini 1.8" HDD install. Sorry, I don't have time for the entire disassembly procedure, but I believe others have posted it before. The installation is fairly straightforward after many hours of engineering on my part. I tried a USB internal hub, but something funky happens with the recognition when the wires get too long and are not properly insulated with ground shield. Anyway, enjoy the pictures!
http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd312/mikelpn_EeePC/
appears it doesnt leave a clean surface, i was hoping you would be able to replace the original casing and no one would be the wise, other than that, looks good.
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Apricorn Aegis Mini HDD install note...Others have mentioned internal USB ports of some type that may or may not be usable. I chose an external connection for a couple of reasons. 1. I am not sure the HDD will fully power down when the Asus if "off", 2. The external connection allows me to connect it to another computer for file transfers. 3. I didn't want to brick my EeePC. If you are soldering on a motherboard and you unsolder something small, it can take hours to repair the damage, or worse, leave you with a "cripple" PC. Mike
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UberNero...by clean surface I think you mean the bottom ram cover door...it does fit back on perfectly. I'll upload another pic...thanks for the heads up.
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mikelpn wrote:
UberNero...by clean surface I think you mean the bottom ram cover door...it does fit back on perfectly. I'll upload another pic...thanks for the heads up.
Ok, i was looking at the tape and going sure it works, until it falls out ![]()
I might actually try this once i get my eee, and if the internal USB ports are easily solderable, ill give it a shot at making it completly inclosed.
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@mikelpn, nicely done... Now just connect the HDD to one of the unused internal USB ports! See: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=1745
Last edited by tnkgrl (2007-11-09 8:03:21 pm)
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Wow! Nice hack! If I get one of these notebooks soon (I'm on the fence, but increasingly leaning towards buying one) I'll have to give this a shot. Although, I think one could do it cheaper by getting a drive off eBay and an enclosure for it.
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SWEEEET!! excellent job! this is just the mod I've been thinking of doing, 4gb internally and lugging around an external drive isn't my cup of tea.
What's the battery life like with the HD spinning all the time?
mikelpn wrote:
If you are soldering on a motherboard and you unsolder something small, it can take hours to repair the damage,
Been there, unsoldered that, with my iRiver H140 I built from 3 broken ones bought off eBay. Whilst replacing the 5-way joystick I accidentally unsoldered 3 resistors right next to it, they're the resistors that enable the buttons to work, and they're literally the size of grains of sand. The repair job went well until I dropped one of the resistors on the carpet...
but I found it by using sticky tape and a magnifying glass
that was last year and after almost daily use it still works to this day
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what exactly did you dremel off and off what? The EEE motherboard or the HDD controller board?
great mod btw - will definitely be doing this myself =]
edit - and did it take 30 hours because you were working out what to remove? How long would it take you if you had to do it again?
Last edited by MiL0 (2007-11-10 4:17:49 am)
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In reply to MiL0: I find that a Dremel tends to melt plastics more or less. I used a sharp cutting blade, cutting pliers and scissors to remove the Eee PC bar between the ram and the expansion slot. No further cutting was done on the computer. I did need to notch the hard drive controller board 3 places with scissors so it would fit around the computer's screw posts. I will upload a closer picture when I have time.
Thanks for reading my posts! Mike
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that's good - sounds like it would take a lot less than 30 hours if one knew what they were doing =]
good work! this, more than anything, has convinced me to buy an EEE... I'm sure plenty of other people will be interested in your work as well.
perhaps, if you have the time, you could take some new photos showing exactly what you cut... maybe even circling them in mspaint/photoshop for the really dumb among us (ie - me!).
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In reply to MiL0: It took me about 30 hours to figure out how to do the mod. That includes fitting other components that didn't work out (like a USB hub), as well as finding the right drive. I wanted a 250 gig SATA, but the 2.5" drive didn't fit. I originally disconnected the left USB port and ran it to a hub. From the hub I ran the line back to the port and to the drive. I didn't use wires that were shielded and I think this caused my early efforts to be unsuccessful.
It takes a lot of tinkering, initially, to do a mod to anything, I think. If I had to do it over again? I think it would take me about an hour, from start to finish.
One note to potential modders: The internal 1.8" drive does not shut down with the computer if it is still plugged in to the USB port. It stays on. With that knowledge, I will probably put a small switch in the case instead of unplugging it like I do now. Otherwise, the BIOS may have a setting to power down the USB ports (no wake up interrupts, I think). I think this is still a great mod to do because you no longer need to carry around an external drive to plug in.
Mike
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Thanks for the update... I guess the power problem can temporarily be solved by simply unplugging the usb cable when you shut the EEE down? It also means that attaching the usb cable to an internal usb port might not be such a great idea! (unless someone can work out a way to power the hard disk down via software or something).
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Can you comment on the effect on battery life, please?
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Wouldn't this create a heat issue? normal hard drives get very warm, and you are taking away space for air circulation inside the EEE, and exchanging that space for something that actually generates heat. Have you noticed any increase in the EEE temperature?
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I've thought of a solution for getting the hd to power down when the unit is off, but requires some electronics circuit making knowledge (somewhat outside of my league), basically a small circuit senses when the power LED is on and then connects up the 5v line of the USB so the hd is turned on.
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Nice mod......have you managed to install XP to the 30 gig drive? If so, can you tell me what performance is like booting the O/S from a USB. How does it compare to the internal SSD?
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Nice!
Contratulations!
<drooling>
Can you say something about what this means for the battery?
How much faster does it drain ?
Last edited by eFfeM (2007-11-10 11:20:21 am)
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Thanks for responding to my posts about the hard drive install. To answer the last few questions...
I think that the USB not having power when the laptop is off may be a software issue because power does remain on..and that's why at this point
i decided to have the USB internal drive unpluggable from the outside of the computer. One solution to the USB always power on may be solved with a small relay or a reed relay that switches on 5Volts when the rest of the computer is on. Others have posted about the internal USB ports, but without a way to shut off the drive when the lappy is off, it doesn't' make a lot of sense to explore that possibility of internal connections yet, at least for me.
I do not have info on battery life yet because I haven't used the computer much on battery only. I will post my observations when I can do a test, but I will need to do a test with and without the drive plugged in. I hope to do a test next week.
As far as heat goes, I haven't noticed a big increase in heat or fan on time yet. The computer normally gets warm after an hour or 2, and I had it on most of the day. The drive's circuit board is not near any heat generating devices, but the drive itself is under the CPU area that gets warm. The air flow through the device has not been restricted much at all.
I installed WinXP Home upgrade (Licensed and Activated) in the 4 gig flash drive, and I didn't have any major issues with installation. (See the screencap on Photobucket, linked above). It did take a couple of tries to get ACPI installed, but at this point, everything works. I don't boot from the installed drive, although I could do a Linux boot from it if I wanted to.
I have about 450 mb of flash drive space available after installing programs and setting the pagefile from 128mb to 256mb.
Boot time for Windows XP SP2, I think, is normal for a 600-900 mhz device...about 30-40 seconds at best. It's certainly slower than the Linux OEM that was installed. I have used Linux before, but I wanted compatibility with my existing software programs and hardware (printer, etc).
I hope this helps to answer some of your questions. I am by no means an engineer or qualified to answer real technical questions, but I will do my best to figure things out. Thanks for your interest. Anyone out there have some ideas or methods to shut off USB with the computer off? I think that's where this project is stuck...
Mike
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@mikelpn, it's very likely there's 5V to be tapped inside the Eee that powers down when the system is in standby - that was why I suggested an internal USB mod.
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