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#1 2008-02-23 2:16:04 pm

garwaymatt
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Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

As this came out yesterday, the same day I horrifically broke the gutsy install that was currently on my eee, I decided to give it a try.

It seems sleeker and better put together at this stage, however there are a few issues at the moment.

Trackpad- No scrolling, works fine as mouse(Does anyone know what  model and make the trackpad is?)
Still has shutdown problem. IIRC this is due to the intel sound driver.
Wifi not working, The chip is recognised and it installs the restricted driver, but does not show up in the network config gui.

Battery misreporting still an issue.

It is still early days though, so hopefully these can be fixed, and then it will be perfect.
Has anyone else tried it?

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#2 2008-02-25 4:59:11 am

Hobbes828
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I haven't tried it yet, but I did install it on my dell inspiron 8200 and the scrolling also stopped working so I don't think this is eee-specific, which at least means it should be more likely to be resolved smile

I'd be happy to hear any updates since I am planning on doing this sooner or later... but probably sooner

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#3 2008-02-25 6:32:04 am

dnar
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I downloaded Xubuntu 8.10 alpha 5 last night. Plan to burn it and play tonight.

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#4 2008-02-26 7:40:46 am

amx109
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

installed alpha 5 last night. plowing thru the myriad of wiki pages/forum posts to get it all working as i want it

quite happy with it so far. its v.nippy, though i do miss the 15s bootup time

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#5 2008-02-26 2:19:40 pm

jap1968
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I wrote a minireview of Ubuntu 8.04 (alfa 4) en the Eee (screenshots included)

http://netpatia.blogspot.com/2008/02/as … buntu.html

Downloading alfa 5 right now, so additional info comming soon.

Last edited by jap1968 (2008-02-26 2:24:30 pm)

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#6 2008-02-27 2:37:19 am

thomas
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

i did a dist-upgrade on eeexubuntu and now wlan doesn't work, so i'm stuck. is it different to install the standard hardy heron alpha5?

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#7 2008-02-27 12:52:31 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I'm with you.  I read some encouraging posts and had some frustrations with 7.10 so I figured I'd give it a try, but wifi is gone (which I figured would happen) and I can't seem to get it back (which I didn't figure because a few people had said that they'd had no problems getting it working).  So could someone tell me how to got wireless working with 2.6.24-10?

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#8 2008-02-27 1:22:56 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Sorry to be the usual crotchety n00b-scolding poster, but...

This is an alpha build. Please be aware of what that means. It is not feature complete. It is meant for developers to get an early look at the system. It is not meant for beta testing (thus the conspicuous absence of beta in the name). It is not meant for everyday use as your primary system...

You shouldn't be installing it because you want an upgrade to Gutsy Gibbon at this point. Installing it to get a sneak peek is valid, of course keeping in mind that it is not feature complete....

That being said, there was another thread where someone said they modified the .deb file that installs madwifi to work in 8.04... let me see if I can find it for you. 

EDIT: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=158804 -- you might contact that person regarding getting Wifi working in 8.04....


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#9 2008-02-27 1:26:11 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Whenever I've tried to compile the madwifi driver for Hardy; it does one of two things:
1) It simply doesn't work
2) It dies during boot, something about avahi not being able to start

Anyone have any success?


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#10 2008-02-27 1:31:37 pm

mkrishnan
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

garwaymatt wrote:

Trackpad- No scrolling, works fine as mouse(Does anyone know what  model and make the trackpad is?)

For this issue, have you tried to see if the gsynaptics package will install on Hardy? This should add a touchpad preference pane that is similar to the config tool Asus provided (e.g. gives you options for individually controlling horiz/vert/circular scrolling, adjustable tap sensitivity, etc).


Mohan

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#11 2008-02-27 7:00:27 pm

garwaymatt
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

mkrishnan wrote:

garwaymatt wrote:

Trackpad- No scrolling, works fine as mouse(Does anyone know what  model and make the trackpad is?)

For this issue, have you tried to see if the gsynaptics package will install on Hardy? This should add a touchpad preference pane that is similar to the config tool Asus provided (e.g. gives you options for individually controlling horiz/vert/circular scrolling, adjustable tap sensitivity, etc).

TBH, I have reinstalled Gutsy as I actually needed to get some work done! From what I can remember, it was not picked up as a touchpad in xorg(just as a generic mouse), so I suspect that the gsynaptics tool would not work. This seems to be an issue with many laptops at this stage, but should be fixed before release.

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#12 2008-02-28 11:44:23 am

tigars
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

mkrishnan wrote:

Sorry to be the usual crotchety n00b-scolding poster, but...

This is an alpha build. Please be aware of what that means. It is not feature complete.

....

That being said, there was another thread where someone said they modified the .deb file that installs madwifi to work in 8.04... let me see if I can find it for you. 

EDIT: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=158804 -- you might contact that person regarding getting Wifi working in 8.04....

Thanks for the link.  After I posted I just used the custom 2.6.24-2 kernel from http://ubuntu-eee.tuxfamily.org/index.p … nux_kernel . I had downloaded the files before upgrading so that I could use it if I couldn't get the one that comes with Hardy to work. 

Otherwise, Hardy is working well and has a couple fixes that are nice.  I'm sure when Hardy is released someone will get the OSD working again.  I'm not having any trackpad issues.  I used the instructions from the wiki for slowing trackpad scrolling with synclient and synclient still controls the trackpad in Hardy.

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#13 2008-02-28 1:03:12 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

to get the touchpad working, in terminal type sgedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

add this section
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier    "Synaptics Touchpad"
    Driver        "synaptics"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents"    "true"
    Option        "Device"        "/dev/psaux"
    Option        "Protocol"        "auto-dev"
    Option        "HorizEdgeScroll"    "0"
EndSection

add this at bottom of the file
Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier    "Default Layout"
    Screen        "Default Screen"
    InputDevice    "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection

be sure to backup the xorg file

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#14 2008-03-01 11:13:10 am

abultoot
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

to get wifi to work
sudo apt-get install build-essential
wget 'http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz'
tar zxvf madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
cd madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007
make clean
make
sudo make install
reboot

source: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu

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#15 2008-03-01 9:26:33 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

mkrishnan wrote:

Sorry to be the usual crotchety n00b-scolding poster, but...

This is an alpha build. Please be aware of what that means. It is not feature complete. It is meant for developers to get an early look at the system.

It's always worth saying, but people rarely listen.  I've been using Linux for over 10 years and I've long since lost count of forum posts of people installing experimental software on production desktops and server and then belly aching when the system is broken.

I just laugh now and shake my head.

It's one thing to install an Alpha OS on a test box or a VM, but to install it on a PC with the intention of actually using it is just stupid.

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#16 2008-03-02 4:40:43 am

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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Im guna try it out on the EEE (and only to SD card). Since Ive yet to get any Ubuntu version to work so far I have nothing to loose. Meh its only a SD card AND gives this cat something to play with. lol


Black 901 Linux Sold sad Need a MT EEE
I still think the new name for Ubuntu-EEE is a bit naff.

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#17 2008-03-02 7:30:39 am

garwaymatt
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I *Know* it is highly experimental, and I am not bitching about it not working, as I stated the current gutsy install had been pretty messed around with from playing around with various things.  I decided to see how things were shaping up, and they are looking impressive at this early stage. I was not using the EEE to do any work at that point, so it didn't really matter if things don't work. I have since needed to use the eee so I reinstalled gutsy.

I am not encouraging people who don't know what they are doing, merely asking if anyone has tried. I like to try out new things and have a play about.

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#18 2008-03-02 2:31:48 pm

Tomcat
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Is it possible to clock the eee to get the full 900mhz using the heron?

Oh got it running no issues, however  lan wont  work. Everything is running slow but I expected it as I only have 512mb ram.


Black 901 Linux Sold sad Need a MT EEE
I still think the new name for Ubuntu-EEE is a bit naff.

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#19 2008-03-02 3:20:20 pm

garwaymatt
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I think the general slugginess is not an eee thing, It runs slow on my 2.8 gig desktop. It is probably a case of optimisations. I think that it still runs at 630, as this is down to the bios. The module that was built may not work with the newer kernel. By lan do you mean Wired/Wireless, I found that the wired worked with the restricted drivers.

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#20 2008-03-02 4:06:19 pm

Tomcat
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Yeh, I ment the wired network. I have the restricted ones in  use.


Black 901 Linux Sold sad Need a MT EEE
I still think the new name for Ubuntu-EEE is a bit naff.

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#21 2008-03-03 2:00:29 am

Fooshnik
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

Does your switch show the connection LEDs on when you plug in the eeepc? If not, make sure LAN is enabled in the BIOS and then pull the power, pull the battery, plug in the cable, plug in the battery and turn it on.

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#22 2008-03-03 5:04:59 am

brainsys
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

BTW has anybody tried Hardy/KDE4 yet: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/HardyHeron/Alpha5/KubuntuKDE4 (not the same as Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 5) to create a really cutting edge eeepc?

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#23 2008-03-12 12:08:35 am

babau
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Re: Ubuntu Hardy Alpha 5

I did a dist-upgrade from a eeeXubuntu base that had been changed over to Gnome.

Managed to get wifi working by installing the kernel here:

http://ubuntu-eee.tuxfamily.org/index.p … nux_kernel

and following the instructions for wifi.

Only trouble is that the boot time is horrendously long. Par for the course since it's an Alpha build, but something to be aware of if you're considering checking it out.

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