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#26 2007-11-08 12:53:07 am

bill_best
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Registered: 2007-11-07
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

This is fantastic news!  I really hope the eee software upgrade version becomes available soon.  I'm still learning how to properly install packages manually.

I'm having a bit of a love/hate relationship with the shell.   wink

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#27 2007-11-08 1:33:29 am

bill_best
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

Well, I decided to try to learn how to do this myself.. and it worked!!  YEA!!!!!!   smile

Thanks Berkus for the step by step instructions.  I'm gonna try my first Skype call tomorrow after I get some sleep.

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#28 2007-11-08 10:14:36 am

berkus
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Registered: 2007-11-06
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

Yes, guys. A tray icon to display camera status, turn it on and off sounds like even better solution!

What I found out - after suspending/resuming the eee, camera goes back to off again! So when making a subsequent call with skype you'll have no outgoing video sad

I will see if manipulating camera state can be added to skype itself. This should be best.

ohyes: you don't need to wait for an upgrade. dpkg -i with debian or xandros deb file works perfectly - everything installs in place.

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#29 2007-11-08 10:39:11 pm

mkrishnan
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

One more question... when the next version of Skype is delivered via Asus' update system, will having installed the beta likely screw up getting it from Asus, or will it not be an issue?


Mohan

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#30 2007-11-08 11:02:28 pm

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

There are two scenarios, both are ok imo:
1. It will not try to install claiming the version is the same. Just uninstall and reinstall.
2. It will try to pull the update and silently succeed. No need to do anything.
3. Third option.

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#31 2007-11-08 11:10:09 pm

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

Inspired by mkrishnan's post I wrote a little tray applet to monitor and switch your camera status.

Again, step-by-step instruction on how to install:
1. Open terminal.
2. sudo su
3. cd /usr/bin
4. wget http://berkus.madfire.net/eeecamtray.gz
5. gunzip eeecamtray.gz
6. chmod +x eeecamtray
7. Now type eeecamtray and it should start up. Play around, if everything is ok, Quit it and go to next step.
8. pico /usr/bin/startsimple.sh
9. scroll down until you see line saying "wapmonitor &"
10. directly after it type in "eeecamtray &"
11. save and exit
12. restart your eee and enjoy!

Here are the sources.

Last edited by berkus (2007-11-08 11:22:21 pm)

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#32 2007-11-08 11:12:03 pm

ohyes
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

berkus wrote:

Inspired by mkrishnan's post I wrote a little tray applet to monitor and switch your camera status.

Again, step-by-step instruction on how to install:
1. Open terminal.
2. sudo su
3. cd /usr/bin
4. wget http://berkus.madfire.net/eeecamtray.gz
5. gunzip eeecamtray.gz
6. chmod +x eeecamtray
7. Now type eeecamtray and it should start up. Play around, if everything is ok, Quit it and go to next step.
8. pico /usr/bin/startsimple.sh
9. scroll down until you see line saying "wapmonitor &"
10. directly after it type in "eeecamtray &"
11. save and exit
12. restart your eee and enjoy!

I'll upload the sources for interested folks shortly.

Berkus, this is very nice.

May I trouble you to put it all together, so someone who knows zip about Linux, like me, can start from the very beginning re getting the beta, installing it, and installing the camtray app and anything else that's needed

Many thanks, John


John

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#33 2007-11-08 11:24:47 pm

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

ohyes wrote:

Berkus, this is very nice.

May I trouble you to put it all together, so someone who knows zip about Linux, like me, can start from the very beginning re getting the beta, installing it, and installing the camtray app and anything else that's needed

Umm.. well... yeah. But I'm working on making this even simpler so you won't need to bother at all. So maybe later, when I have had enough sleep in a row (you see, it's 6:23am here).

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#34 2007-11-08 11:25:40 pm

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

I've edited my post above to include link to the source repository for the interested.

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#35 2007-11-08 11:31:51 pm

ohyes
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

berkus wrote:

ohyes wrote:

Berkus, this is very nice.

May I trouble you to put it all together, so someone who knows zip about Linux, like me, can start from the very beginning re getting the beta, installing it, and installing the camtray app and anything else that's needed

Umm.. well... yeah. But I'm working on making this even simpler so you won't need to bother at all. So maybe later, when I have had enough sleep in a row (you see, it's 6:23am here).

Sure, Berkus, whatever works for you.  I really appreciate whatever you can fit into your schedule.  Thanks, John


John

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#36 2007-11-09 12:55:28 am

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

So what is happening:
* Skype will power on the camera before scanning for it, so it will be found.
* Then it's up to you and your little tray app to keep it available to Skype.

Trayapp checks camera status once a minute, so you may want to wait one or to cycle it manually to be sure it's in the right condition before making video calls.

Cheers.

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#37 2007-11-09 4:02:05 am

timbobsteve
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Registered: 2007-08-18
Posts: 315

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

Hi all,

I downloaded both the Debian Etch and the Xandros versions of the Skype Beta, but both of them segfault on my stock-standard Eee installation. Anyone else getting issue with this or am I alone?

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#38 2007-11-09 7:53:22 am

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

timbobsteve wrote:

I downloaded both the Debian Etch and the Xandros versions of the Skype Beta, but both of them segfault on my stock-standard Eee installation. Anyone else getting issue with this or am I alone?

This is weird. I'll count you as a statistically improbable case. Are you sure your hardware is ok (like RAM)? Skype was tested on stock-standard eees and should just work.

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#39 2007-11-09 8:01:14 am

timbobsteve
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

I wish it would "just work".... but unfortunately it doesn't. I will try again tonight, but I doubt it will make any difference.

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#40 2007-11-09 8:11:11 am

timbobsteve
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

OK.... my computer just made a liar out of me.... I cleared my firefox cache and then re-downloaded the Xandros deb and it worked first time. Camera and all :S very strange..... can't complain though wink

EDIT: BTW Berkus.... thanks for the awesome tray utility. It is absolutely wonderful to see a company dev-team member talking with the community and listening to requests and queries. You are a credit to your company and I thank you.

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#41 2007-11-09 12:05:05 pm

seventh
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Registered: 2007-09-26
Posts: 195

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

timbobsteve wrote:

BTW Berkus.... thanks for the awesome tray utility. It is absolutely wonderful to see a company dev-team member talking with the community and listening to requests and queries. You are a credit to your company and I thank you.

exactly, thank you berkus..


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#42 2007-11-09 12:07:55 pm

mkrishnan
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Posts: 3433

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

Berkus, you rock. smile


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#43 2007-11-09 1:07:18 pm

citivolus
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Registered: 2007-11-09
Posts: 35

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

this is awesome news!  i cant wait until my eee arrives on monday to try it out.  can anyone comment on how many fps or what kind of bitrate they are seeing locally and what the remote person is seeing?

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#44 2007-11-09 2:43:48 pm

berkus
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Registered: 2007-11-06
Posts: 32

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

citivolus wrote:

this is awesome news!  i cant wait until my eee arrives on monday to try it out.  can anyone comment on how many fps or what kind of bitrate they are seeing locally and what the remote person is seeing?

to all: Thanks guys, I love Eee, it's real fun to do stuff for it!

For the fps, I'm getting this:
Test 1 (around europe)
* receiving 640x480@7-12fps, dropping over time to 320x240@7-12fps and then 160x120@6fps (probably remote problems)
* sending 320x240@5fps
Test 2 (local network)
* receiving 320x240@13fps
* sending 320x240@10fps
The speed varies, in general fps is a bit low to be smooth, but picture quality is good even in low-light conditions.
Also, Skype is hardcoded to not eat more than 60% cpu when in a video call, so it doesn't wink

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#45 2007-11-09 5:57:18 pm

orbitalcomp
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Registered: 2007-11-09
Posts: 5

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

@berkus

I'm a new Eee user, just got it a few days ago, and so far so good!  I installed the new Skype Beta, and also installed that small script that you provided.  It works great, now the camera works in Skype without me having to run commands through the terminal.  This is good, because I don't even know what the commands are that I am typing, I was simply using cut and paste and carefully following along.

My question is this:  After following your directions, are there any extra files that can be deleted?  Since the Eee is already low on storage, I don't want to waste any.  Are you making a copy of the 2.0 Beta Skype app, or are you simply editing the app in it's original location?

Last edited by orbitalcomp (2007-11-09 6:05:03 pm)

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#46 2007-11-09 7:10:37 pm

berkus
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

orbitalcomp wrote:

My question is this:  After following your directions, are there any extra files that can be deleted?  Since the Eee is already low on storage, I don't want to waste any.  Are you making a copy of the 2.0 Beta Skype app, or are you simply editing the app in it's original location?

No space is wasted!
Btw, you will not need to have this script with Skype 2.0.0.13 coming from ASUS repositories, so be sure to return everything to pristine state by running "cd /usr/bin; mv skype-bin skype" and confirming overwrite before you upgrade to official ASUS build.

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#47 2007-11-09 7:16:06 pm

orbitalcomp
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Registered: 2007-11-09
Posts: 5

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

berkus wrote:

orbitalcomp wrote:

My question is this:  After following your directions, are there any extra files that can be deleted?  Since the Eee is already low on storage, I don't want to waste any.  Are you making a copy of the 2.0 Beta Skype app, or are you simply editing the app in it's original location?

No space is wasted!
Btw, you will not need to have this script with Skype 2.0.0.13 coming from ASUS repositories, so be sure to return everything to pristine state by running "cd /usr/bin; mv skype-bin skype" and confirming overwrite before you upgrade to official ASUS build.

Nice!  Thanks for the quick reply...any idea when this new version will hit the repository?

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#48 2007-11-09 7:53:17 pm

mkrishnan
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

I've got the beta as well as the excellent widget installed! smile Thanks again!

Now, of course, I have no friends who have both webcam and skype... roll

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/mkrishnan/webcache/skype.jpg


Mohan

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#49 2007-11-09 8:06:39 pm

o2smartphone
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Registered: 2007-10-28
Posts: 569

Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

berkus wrote:

orbitalcomp wrote:

My question is this:  After following your directions, are there any extra files that can be deleted?  Since the Eee is already low on storage, I don't want to waste any.  Are you making a copy of the 2.0 Beta Skype app, or are you simply editing the app in it's original location?

No space is wasted!
Btw, you will not need to have this script with Skype 2.0.0.13 coming from ASUS repositories, so be sure to return everything to pristine state by running "cd /usr/bin; mv skype-bin skype" and confirming overwrite before you upgrade to official ASUS build.

Does it means that after having the eeecamtray in place, the previous script (that echo 1 > ...) is no longer needed ?


windows or linux, who cares !  I just want to use eeePC My Way

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#50 2007-11-09 8:16:19 pm

mkrishnan
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Registered: 2007-11-06
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Re: Linux skype with video beta is out

o2smartphone wrote:

Does it means that after having the eeecamtray in place, the previous script (that echo 1 > ...) is no longer needed ?

I can confirm that the webcam works for me in Skype without using the script, and only activating it from the tray icon. smile


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