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#26 2008-02-06 4:47:42 pm

Focus.Nrg
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Registered: 2008-01-20
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Outstanding work!! Just finished this installation everything works perfect! Thanks for the work and the guide!


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#27 2008-02-06 5:00:38 pm

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Great guide, few questions though.

Are you using an SP1 disk and not an SP2 one?

And could you make a tutorial for installing the nlited version from a USB instead of off of a disk?

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#28 2008-02-06 6:45:53 pm

Mark.Buckle
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Does this show the Battery status or will it just turn off when its run out?

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#29 2008-02-06 11:29:52 pm

edin3000gt
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Just finished install after all its said and done and office xp installed the whole install is under 1gig 986mb to be exact...

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#30 2008-02-06 11:34:11 pm

larsrya8
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

I would keep Terminal Services so you can use Remote Desktop.


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#31 2008-02-06 11:41:06 pm

edin3000gt
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Thats the first thing i reinstalled "RDC" I just compressed the drive and I'm at 864MB... Thanks a lot

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#32 2008-02-07 3:33:56 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

I've got a full xp install on my eee (which was a nlite version as i have a 2002 sp1 disk which won't boot without sp2 being slipstreamed into it. i didn't make any other changes). I thought I'd follow these excellent instructions to try to get a smaller install but the installation hangs after about 20mins with an asms file not found error and I can't find a way around. Googling around, I'm still not sure if this is an ISO burn issue, which may be solved by reburning the same ISO, or if there is a problem with my nlited ISO itself, which means i'll have to run through it all again. Anyone else had this issue and found a straightforward solution?

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#33 2008-02-07 4:01:40 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

i64X wrote:

I have been working on this guide the past couple of days. I know a lot of people have had problems with nLite installs and stuff not working, so I decided to make an end-all be all guide to nLite'ing XP, installing it on the Eee, installing all of the drivers, and then optimizing the install for maximum speed and size after all of the ASUS drivers and all of the Windows Updates are installed.

My finally XP installation is 537MB with SP2 and all updates, and boots in around 17 seconds. I imagine that others will be able to achieve the same or close to the same numbers by following the guide step by step. All of my hardware in XP works, including the sound and video camera, and there are no "rogue" devices in Device Manager. I can connect to unsecure, WEP, and WPA-PSK wireless networks. The stripped installation is 100% tested and working.

Here's the link:

http://www.i64x.com/eeexp.php

The article looks longer than it is because there are a lot of pictures, but I wanted to be thorough. Enjoy!

hello, brother.

What is the size of your windows xp before installing?

My is 223KB with all the updates. (chinese language)

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#34 2008-02-07 8:07:54 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

JDMFSeanP wrote:

Great guide, few questions though.

Are you using an SP1 disk and not an SP2 one?

And could you make a tutorial for installing the nlited version from a USB instead of off of a disk?

I'm using an XP Pro SP2 disc that I got from Microsoft Technet.

I won't be working on an SD card version. There are plenty of SD card guides on here already... just go through the nLite process, but keep the manual installation option (so you'll have winnt.exe and winnt32.exe, etc. in your i386 directory), and any existing SD guide should work with that.

Mark.Buckle wrote:

Does this show the Battery status or will it just turn off when its run out?

Mine shows battery status.

larsrya8 wrote:

I would keep Terminal Services so you can use Remote Desktop.

Good tip. I went to use mstsc last night and it wasn't there. :-/ I'm going to copy it over from another XP machine, but as I said in the guide, if you want components (Remote Desktop, Bluetooth, etc.) definitely keep them.

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#35 2008-02-07 8:28:41 am

i64X
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

larsrya8 wrote:

I would keep Terminal Services so you can use Remote Desktop.

For anyone else who wants this, followed my guide, and doesn't want to make a new installation CD... I copied the following files from an existing XP installation on another computer to my Eee and it worked:

c:\Windows\System32\mstscax.dll
c:\Windows\System32\mstsc.exe
c:\Windows\System32\en-us (<- that's a directory, copy the whole thing over)

Total for all of those is 2.47MB

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#36 2008-02-07 4:07:27 pm

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

I'm installing this right now

Did anyone get the same boot time? 17 seconds?

Is that 17 seconds as in the mouse showing on the black screen or 17 seconds with everything done loading in windows?


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#37 2008-02-07 4:37:57 pm

i64X
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

17 seconds til the wallpaper and taskbar comes up and I can start doing stuff. It takes about 20 for the network icons to pop up. The only tray icons I have are network and the speaker icons. The rest of the startup items are disabled.

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#38 2008-02-07 5:01:58 pm

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

hmm, 17 seconds is pretty good. when do you start the counter, with pressing the button or? mine with all the possible tweaks needs 25 seconds from pressing the button to wallpaper.

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#39 2008-02-07 5:59:33 pm

kite7
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

When I followed your procedure, I also added the post-sp2 hotfixes so I didn't have to delete any files


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#40 2008-02-07 6:40:13 pm

Syntra
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Requesting a guide to do this from a USB Flash Drive.


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#41 2008-02-07 7:59:39 pm

kas23
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

I see that the nLite menu has an option of not installing Internet Explorer.  Is this totally true?  Can you completely trash IE from the start?  I thought that IE and the XP kernel shared some common files.

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#42 2008-02-07 8:12:58 pm

Otto
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Just a note: Do not disable RTHDCPL from start-up if you want to use your headphone and microphone jacks. Without it, it will not work.


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#43 2008-02-08 12:12:52 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Question, that 17 second boot up time, is that -after- you've installed everything on the system you intend to use and consider it "done?" I don't mean just the drivers, I mean stuff like Photoshop, Firefox, etc etc etc.

I find that a fresh install of XP on any system with simply the OS installed always boots nearly instantly. It's after I've installed everything and have it functional that it begins to bog down.

At any rate thank you for the very thorough guide, I hope the less savvy Eeers can get a lot of use from it.


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#44 2008-02-08 5:41:22 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Otto wrote:

Just a note: Do not disable RTHDCPL from start-up if you want to use your headphone and microphone jacks. Without it, it will not work.

so how do I re-enable it?

Edit: Have plugged in earphones and they work OK so not sure about this now?

Last edited by dave_mcconnell (2008-02-08 7:11:31 am)


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#45 2008-02-08 8:16:16 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

May I ask why you removed "paint" and "calculator"? Aren't these pretty small apps? And wouldn't it be better to remove all the other languages and just keeping english (or your own language)?

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#46 2008-02-08 9:10:02 am

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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Thank you i64X!

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#47 2008-02-08 9:15:01 am

deegge
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

i64x - I sent you a private message - can you check it please and get back to me?  Thanks!


i64X wrote:

larsrya8 wrote:

I would keep Terminal Services so you can use Remote Desktop.

For anyone else who wants this, followed my guide, and doesn't want to make a new installation CD... I copied the following files from an existing XP installation on another computer to my Eee and it worked:

c:\Windows\System32\mstscax.dll
c:\Windows\System32\mstsc.exe
c:\Windows\System32\en-us (<- that's a directory, copy the whole thing over)

Total for all of those is 2.47MB

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#48 2008-02-08 2:21:35 pm

dave_mcconnell
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Damn good guide - has been very helpful.
Either it should be added to the wiki or the thread stickied at the top of the sub-forum.


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#49 2008-02-08 2:58:16 pm

Otto
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

dave_mcconnell: Most people are having problems without it. I guess you're the lucky one. smile


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#50 2008-02-08 3:30:08 pm

dave_mcconnell
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Re: Ultimate XP HOW-TO Guide: XP SP2, 537MB install size, Boots in 17sec

Otto wrote:

dave_mcconnell: Most people are having problems without it. I guess you're the lucky one. smile

Did you mean problems with it?
My initial nlite install left me with serious sound issues, vista was too large on a 4G - but this time nlite has worked well (admittedly I did use a different disk which was SP2 already rathe rthan slipstreaming it in).
The advice re drivers seemed very good as well - no audio hotfixes required. And tweaks seemed appropriate.

I'm really happy to have followed this guide - no problems have come to light so far - and this my 7-8th attempt at different OS installs both on ext HDD and the SSD.

Kudos to i64x
Commiserations to those who are having problems


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