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#1 2007-11-05 1:47:01 pm

ajiuk
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Registered: 2007-11-05
Posts: 4

iPod problem

Hi,

I'm using my Eee with the Linux distribution included, but every time I attempt to connect my iPod, it comes up with the default software but only shows five playlists. When I disconnect the iPod, all the other playlists have been deleted, and when I connect it to my PC, almost 2000 songs have been deleted and need to be retransferred. Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and knew of a solution?

Thanks!

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#2 2007-11-06 1:35:16 am

superslacker
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From: Vancouver, BC
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 53

Re: iPod problem

I didn't lose any songs (that I know of) but my iPod did appear to lose its gapless playback data. When I reconnected it to my Windows PC, it took a long time reprocessing all the songs again.

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#3 2007-11-06 2:10:02 am

muxzlx
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Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 7

Re: iPod problem

I lost all the songs on my ipod classic yesterday, not sure why yet, although I had not attempted to update it through the 3e. It may have attempted to change the ipod db on its own?


Asus 701, ipod classic 80gb, could I ask for any more?

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#4 2007-11-07 11:45:21 am

superslacker
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From: Vancouver, BC
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 53

Re: iPod problem

Did anyone else have problems with the Eeepc messing up ipods? Here's the problem I had...

My 2gen nano is set to manual update mode. I plugged it into the Eee, dragged a podcast into the ipod via the audio player. Pressed eject. All seemed fine until I plugged it back into my Windows PC and itunes spent a good 5 minutes reprocessing the files for gapless playback data. No songs appear to have been lost.

I haven't tried it again so I don't know if it was an isolated problem.

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#5 2007-11-07 12:55:29 pm

nathan
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From: college park, md
Registered: 2007-10-22
Posts: 28

Re: iPod problem

Wow...glad I found this thread. I was just about to see what happens when I plug my iPod classic into the eee.

So, should we make a sticky / wiki / and front page announcement about this issue?

This issue sounds like a huge inconvenience when you have many gigs of music on the iPod.

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#6 2007-11-07 1:39:04 pm

joners
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Registered: 2007-11-01
Posts: 358

Re: iPod problem

Ill try and find some details to back this up, but as far as I was aware the latest gen of Ipods are not completely compatible with linux. I remember hearing about it on BOL. However this is only for the new nano (3rd gen), Ipod Classic, Ipod Touch(s).


Here is an article showing the issue of ipods with linux and a fix -

http://ipodminusitunes.blogspot.com/200 … s-off.html

Some additional content, not sure if it is going to be of any help to you guys though.

http://www.backdot.com/?p=50


Jon


Wise words from the 'Engineer' - "Beta does not mean 'better', it means 'not ready'. "

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#7 2007-11-09 2:15:43 pm

Burstr8
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Registered: 2007-11-09
Posts: 16

Re: iPod problem

I had a similar issue with a gen2 8GB nano.  It seems after using it with the included linux distro the device has lost its authorization to play DRMed songs.  No apparent data loss as music can be played from the ipod through authed itunes but there seems to be no option to reauth the ipod itself.

Yay for our defective by design overlords.

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#8 2007-11-11 5:02:25 pm

nairb6868
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From: Clayton, NC
Registered: 2007-11-11
Posts: 18

Re: iPod problem

Me too.

Plugged it into the 3e.  Was able to play music through the 3e no problem.

Plugged into car and "no music".  9000+ songs gone.  Very boring ride home from the beach.


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#9 2007-11-15 5:40:31 am

brickjr
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Registered: 2007-11-10
Posts: 60

Re: iPod problem

Big favor to ask you guys...

I just got my EEE and hooked up my Ipod before reading this thread.  Now my Ipod shows no songs when I unhook it from the computer.  However, when I rehook it up, it still plays everything through the media player.  I'm assuming this is a similar issue to what everyone else is having.

Is there a way to fix this problem?  I know someone had a link to a blog on one of the posts above, but I'm in the military deployed right now and I can't access blogs of any kind.  Also, I really need a fix that can be performed without internet access if possible.  I'd really appreciate any help anyone could give.

Thanks!

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#10 2007-12-27 9:58:44 pm

hodgetas
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Registered: 2007-12-27
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Re: iPod problem

same problem as brickjr any answers would be appreciated

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#11 2008-01-04 7:07:37 pm

flyingbrewster
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Registered: 2007-12-24
Posts: 5

Re: iPod problem

Had similar problem, played some tracks though the media player on xandros, but when I tried to listen to my ipod (3g nano) later it said there was nothing on it. When I reconnected to my desktop, it said all the information stored there was data, had to reset to factory settings and re-sync.

My guess is that by listening to the music stored on the ipod through another media player (i.e as an external hdd) causes some kind of corruption to some index or something that the ipod software uses to identify what is on the player.

Have no ideas for a solution, however picked up and 120 external hdd, so not really gonna be an issue for me.

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#12 2008-01-08 5:41:02 am

arebc
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Registered: 2007-11-15
Posts: 25

Re: iPod problem

Apparently Apple has added some type of Sha1 hashing to the itunes.db and when a non-itunes player reads the itunes.db the db gets corrupted. I don't know if this is technically accurate but it's really annoying. My Ipod is nothing more than an external hard drive rather than a music player. I have been searching for a solution for this problem for about a month. I'm currently in Cambodia and don't have access to an external hard drive or a computer with half a gig of ram. It would be very helpful if somebody with a little more technical detail would add a warning about this on the wiki because it seems everyone's new IPods are just getting bricked. Thanks Apple.

Last edited by arebc (2008-01-16 2:38:02 am)

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#13 2008-01-17 2:08:14 am

wem
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Registered: 2008-01-13
Posts: 2

Re: iPod problem

Can someone please help me!!!
i'm not the biggest comp buff but i had read everything that has been said here and still can't figure out if there is a way for me to fix this problem. i loose all my music everytime it plugs into my Eee

in the end i dont care if i can't put music onto it thats not why i bought the eee i just want it so i can charge my ipod.
is it correct that if you plug it in while the comp is in sleep mode it will charge? not my fav option but if it works then great. i have redownloaded my songs twice now so i dont want to try unless its true.
Please can someone contact me and help me with this Tweetie84@yahoo.com

- Wems

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#14 2008-01-18 9:00:58 am

madeza
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Registered: 2008-01-17
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Re: iPod problem

I am completely new to Linux and I know very little about computers in general (I lived       
in the Silicon Valley for years and generally make my geek friends do tech stuff for me. Yes, I am one of those girls.)

Despite this, nothing horrible seemed to happen when I hooked my 2nd gen Nano up. The default music manager recognized it, I was able to transfer my music to my computer, and move it all to my SDHC without incident. Then, I listened to my laptop on the subway and nothing had changed. It also acted normally when I hooked it up with my XP desktop.

In fact, the default music manager was much easier than using iTunes (especially the transferring part.  Now I am wondering what went right. Dumb luck?

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#15 2008-01-18 10:13:36 am

dave_mcconnell
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Registered: 2007-11-27
Posts: 153

Re: iPod problem

madeza wrote:

I am completely new to Linux and I know very little about computers in general (I lived       
in the Silicon Valley for years and generally make my geek friends do tech stuff for me. Yes, I am one of those girls.)

Despite this, nothing horrible seemed to happen when I hooked my 2nd gen Nano up. The default music manager recognized it, I was able to transfer my music to my computer, and move it all to my SDHC without incident. Then, I listened to my laptop on the subway and nothing had changed. It also acted normally when I hooked it up with my XP desktop.

In fact, the default music manager was much easier than using iTunes (especially the transferring part.  Now I am wondering what went right. Dumb luck?

Have you since tried listening to the music on your nano?

After playing music from my nano through the eee, subsequently the ipod does not recognise the music on itself (and is thus unplayable) - it is still physically located on the nano, but not accessible to the ipod.

Dave


Black 701 4G; 2GB RAM; SSD - Win XP SP2 nlited; 16GB A-Data SDHC; 40GB Ext HDD; Pioneer K-06 Ext DVD-RW
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#16 2008-01-18 2:52:50 pm

madeza
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Registered: 2008-01-17
Posts: 3

Re: iPod problem

dave_mcconnell wrote:

madeza wrote:

I am completely new to Linux and I know very little about computers in general (I lived       
in the Silicon Valley for years and generally make my geek friends do tech stuff for me. Yes, I am one of those girls.)

Despite this, nothing horrible seemed to happen when I hooked my 2nd gen Nano up. The default music manager recognized it, I was able to transfer my music to my computer, and move it all to my SDHC without incident. Then, I listened to my laptop on the subway and nothing had changed. It also acted normally when I hooked it up with my XP desktop.

In fact, the default music manager was much easier than using iTunes (especially the transferring part.  Now I am wondering what went right. Dumb luck?

Have you since tried listening to the music on your nano?

After playing music from my nano through the eee, subsequently the ipod does not recognise the music on itself (and is thus unplayable) - it is still physically located on the nano, but not accessible to the ipod.

Dave

Yes, and it works fine. The iPod seems completely unchanged. I wonder if it made a difference that my music was only ripped from a cd, purchased on Amazon, or purchased from iTunes plus. There aren't any regular iTunes purchases.

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#17 2008-01-19 11:43:30 am

arebc
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Registered: 2007-11-15
Posts: 25

Re: iPod problem

I'm still working on this issue myself but one problem that I stumbled on is when I edit the itunes.db with a hexeditor the changes are never saved. I have tried to do a "sudo khexedit" but the changes are never still present after I replug in the ipod.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?  I'm really new to Linux so I don't know exactly all the semantics with permissions with reading and writing to a mounted drive,

If I can get my ipod properly working again i'll post the fix as quick as I can.

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#18 2008-01-20 1:49:28 pm

superslacker
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From: Vancouver, BC
Registered: 2007-11-02
Posts: 53

Re: iPod problem

2nd gen Nanos work fine. It's the 3rd gen ones that have the new database format.

The only problem with the 2nd gen Nanos is that the music player in Linux wipes out the gapless playback data. When you plug it back into an Win/Mac machine, it'll regenerate that data (sometimes pretty time consuming).

At least this was the behavior a month ago. I've since installed XP and never looked back.

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#19 2008-01-20 10:27:45 pm

wem
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Registered: 2008-01-13
Posts: 2

Re: iPod problem

Is the only real sollution to this to load XP onto my eee?

Can i just take it to a comp guy and get them to do it or can a semi comp person able to do it?

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#20 2008-03-07 6:23:47 pm

OGB
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Registered: 2008-01-04
Posts: 4

Re: iPod problem

No replies for a few months now, so am I to assume that I have indeed killed my iPod????

Can someone let me know what Apple have said about this if any iPods have been returned as unplayable.

Basically, what can I do??

Thanks in advance.

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#21 2008-03-14 10:17:29 am

stroko
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Registered: 2008-03-14
Posts: 1

Re: iPod problem

try to install Crossover Office so you can run windowsprograms like itunes maybe it works...

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#22 2008-05-16 9:39:41 am

Damen
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Registered: 2008-05-11
Posts: 32

Re: iPod problem

Same here, 3rd Gen IPOD Nano, plug it in eeePC, Music Manager starts up and list alls songs and playlist. Unplug it, turn on IPOD, no songs anymore... grrr... This is why I hate Apple.

I have to restore via iTunes in Windows to get back everything. Kind of sad really, considering Apple OS is basically Linux with a pretty GUI. Time to pull out my Creative Zen M.

Damen

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#23 2008-05-16 1:16:01 pm

willow67
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From: SE England
Registered: 2008-04-26
Posts: 40

Re: iPod problem

Has any one had any problems with the 1G Shuffle ( The tiny one with built in clip)?
I don't want to wreck the 3G Nano i've got.


Std 4G 701 with 1G memory, Running Stock Linux in Easy Mode with additional plug in accessories.
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#24 2008-05-17 2:54:11 pm

levitant
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Registered: 2008-05-02
Posts: 5

Re: iPod problem

Damen wrote:

Same here, 3rd Gen IPOD Nano, plug it in eeePC, Music Manager starts up and list alls songs and playlist. Unplug it, turn on IPOD, no songs anymore... grrr... This is why I hate Apple.

I have to restore via iTunes in Windows to get back everything. Kind of sad really, considering Apple OS is basically Linux with a pretty GUI. Time to pull out my Creative Zen M.

Damen

Damen
Have you tried you Creative Zen? Does it work with the eeepc? -- I've not plugged it in to a new eeepc yet -- I know not to plug the ipod.
thanks.
tom

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#25 2008-05-17 5:19:56 pm

Raval
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Registered: 2008-03-10
Posts: 19

Re: iPod problem

Hi,

I had no problems with my iPod classic 160 GB. I used Floola as a stand alone program on my iPod. No instalation on the EEE Pc. Everything works perfect. Also when i reconnect the iPod to my desktop PC and use iTunes.

Here is the link: http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/

Cheers,

Raval

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