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#1 2008-01-26 7:45:19 am

Phil_123
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Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

I love Xandro's fast boot time but it's a hassle to get Compiz Fusion working with it. I installed it and tried to run it, it ran but it made the window decorations disappear. I googled and found a solution that involves installing compizconfig-settings-manager, but apt-get complained about old Python versions.

So, are there any custom distros that boot up as fast as the original Xandros and works with Compiz Fusion? I tried booting eeeXubuntu off a USB drive (PQI intelligentStick i810 1GB), but it takes nearly one minute to boot, and it detects the wifi signal strengths incorrectly - the default Xandros reports a 100% signal strength when my eee's right in front of my wireless router, but eeeXubuntu reports only 69%.

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#2 2008-01-26 8:44:51 am

Jon Bradbury
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

We have this minor suspicion that Xandros is lying about the signal strength....

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#3 2008-01-30 5:23:50 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Jon Bradbury wrote:

We have this minor suspicion that Xandros is lying about the signal strength....

Just suspicion


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#4 2008-01-30 5:27:15 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Some people have reported that Ubuntu can be optimized to about 30 seconds... still not as fast, but close.


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#5 2008-01-31 8:48:34 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Breeezy boots quickly, but it might be too small for its own good (65 MB). smile

You might want to play with wnop (Puppy Linux with compiz):
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=24871


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#6 2008-01-31 9:48:08 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

mkrishnan wrote:

Some people have reported that Ubuntu can be optimized to about 30 seconds... still not as fast, but close.

Any idea how they did that, Mohan?

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#7 2008-01-31 10:08:01 am

mkrishnan
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

This is supposed to get you to the neighborhood of 45:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC … 79f1e8240e

I'll look for a guide for 30...


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#8 2008-01-31 10:24:21 am

Jon Bradbury
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Ahh, the old "concurrency=shell" trick.

This doesn't work on mine, it locks the machine up.

sad

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#9 2008-01-31 10:51:52 am

mkrishnan
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

It doesn't work for me either, actually, come to think of it. It causes my HAL's to fail to load, leaving me with no network connections, and it also seems to screw up some things like the quit/restart dialog. The second part of the trick, re-ordering those boot items, though, I think did work.


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#10 2008-01-31 5:15:05 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

I have found EeeOS very quick to boot, in the neighbourhood of 30 seconds.

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#11 2008-01-31 5:49:53 pm

rayburn
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Really, dd? I timed mine at 50 secs. not sure whether that's in the 'neighbourhood'. smile

Admittedly it was from the SD card though.

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#12 2008-01-31 6:27:49 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

rayburn wrote:

Really, dd? I timed mine at 50 secs. not sure whether that's in the 'neighbourhood'. smile

Admittedly it was from the SD card though.

I just timed 29.8 seconds including POST. That was from the SSD though, which has much quicker access times than the SD.

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#13 2008-01-31 8:45:57 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

I run it from SD as well, but I wasn't timing very accurately. And now that I've installed compiz-fusion, screenlets and awn, it takes much longer.

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#14 2008-01-31 9:05:39 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Jon Bradbury wrote:

We have this minor suspicion that Xandros is lying about the signal strength....

Your suspicion is justified.

In my home I see 100% strength in the stock easy mode. Using eeexbuntu, eedora, xfce on top of advanced mode all panel applets report ~75% strength.

Running "/sbin/iwconfig ath0" in all scenarios shows the same signal strength and quality!

Conclusion? The default icewm applet shows upwardly adjusted signal strength. Obviously ASUS decided that perceptions are important!

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#15 2008-02-01 2:59:42 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

dd

I timed mine from the Grub menu, I believe, and that includes logging in and up to the standard desktop. I have added OpenOffice, but very little else, as I use it for business mainly. I wish to keep the original Xandros installation, so that the kids can still use it without any detriment to my data.

I also wanted to minimize the use of the SSD in the interests of caution, probably there is no need, but SD cards are cheap and easily replaceable!

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#16 2008-02-13 5:44:13 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

My eeeXubuntu on a 2G model takes about 20-23 sec. to boot. Not a lot more than Xandros. I have applied some of the customizations described in the wiki.

However, if you use an USB, if will become slower than installing it on the SSD. Se my How To on installing on a 2G model, if this is the machine you are using.

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#17 2008-02-13 7:06:07 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

If you disable more and more programs at start up it should be fast.


New system: Intel Core 2 2GHz laptop Currently on Mandriva 2009 and Vista SP1.
And NOW EEE 1000 Linux Ubuntu-Adams Kernal 8.10 and Now without XP
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#18 2008-02-13 8:43:34 am

mkrishnan
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Switching to the kind of lightweight windows manager that Xandros uses helps a lot also... like when you install IceWM on Ubuntu and set it as the default windows manager, the load time from the login screen to having a working desktop is several seconds faster. And of course, Ice is much less processor intense in general also. (I use Gnome but I have Ice installed so that, if I want, I can log out and back in to Ice and have my Eee be much faster).


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#19 2008-02-28 9:43:48 am

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

mkrishnan wrote:

This is supposed to get you to the neighborhood of 45:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC … 79f1e8240e

I'll look for a guide for 30...

hem... I tried that, and my boot time is still 70 seconds!!! There must be a way to improve that!
I know I'm loosing 2 seconds on grub, but that's not very much. I don't have to time my login/passwd, so I think 70 sec is pretty huge.

How did you manage to boot under a minute?


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Message written with “bépo”, French Dvorak-like keyboard.

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#20 2008-02-28 4:19:20 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

i would really like a distro that boots as fast as xandros.  otherwise i suppose i would settle for xandros but i would like to slim it down a bit. does anyone have any suggestions? perhaps someone could inform me as to why ubuntu or another distro cannot load nearly as fast as xandros?


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#21 2008-03-03 4:53:23 pm

dustin
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Slackware with custom built kernel boots about 17 seconds. Brootals configs are the same, see Other Linux Distributions forum in the Slackware Awesome thread.

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#22 2008-04-16 3:02:24 pm

mikeinrichmond
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

I'm using Pupeee which is based on Puppy Linux 3.01 and from grub to desktop is 35 seconds from the SSD using all the default settings (no 'tweaking'), and sound + networking work OOTB. I switched from jwm to icewm for the 'pretty themes' already made, but compiz fusion does work well (though can use alot of the processor for the EEE, and since I have the 2g and only 512 ram its response is sluggish at times.)

Hope this helps.

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#23 2008-05-07 10:35:13 am

czar
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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

I used arch without an initrd (kernel created by arch dev has all modules included) which boots from grub in about 15 seconds (~23 seconds total if you count post). Even now with a small initrd for my encrypted ssd it boots in < 30 seconds

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#24 2008-05-07 12:25:03 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Boot times of about 20 - 30 seconds are the norm without an initrd and that's coming off usb sticks.

The SSD is a little faster - but a Patriot USB stick is 3 times the speed of a normal USB stick.

I am going to start doing some benchmarks in the Cybeee thread, with the Patriot soon so pop on in to see if the drive read speeds are a bottleneck or not.

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#25 2008-07-10 8:23:31 pm

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Re: Any custom distros that boot as fast as the original Xandros?

Q: If i were to install Breezy, or other distro, would it wipe xandros and the installed programs?


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