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#1 2008-01-23 2:48:36 am

DarkAuron
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Registered: 2007-09-17
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2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Out of personal frustration and figuring no one else is in the process of trying to overclock this model, I have gone out in the process of taking apart my laptop and with the help of a friend, figuring out where and what the clockgen is.

The 4G and 8G models use an ICS chip, however I've found that the 2G uses a Cypress chip, model # CY28442.

Here is a picture of the 14.3 crystal: http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/2G_ … rystal.jpg

And a picture of the clockgen on the bottom of the motherboard, next to the RW6 reset button: http://darkauron.dyshost.com/Images/2G_OC/Clockgen.JPG

I've not much to say other than that for now.


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#2 2008-01-23 4:48:08 am

dci
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

this is baaad. this chip has both i2c and ability to vary speed, but...
1. Speed is selected from the list of four predefined values.
2. Speed is selected by reading pins 12, 16 and 53 during power-up(pin 10 is low) and can't be changed later.

However, noted pins change their behavior when clockgen finishes initialization, so they shouldn't(at least not all of them) be just soldered to the ground or +.
Probably they are connected to the embedded controller(large ENE chip near cardreader) somehow, but there are almost no chances to determine details without help from asus.

there is also a small chance that changing clockgen register values on started system will make any difference, though doc makes it clear -- these are read-only.

Last edited by dci (2008-01-23 5:22:52 am)

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#3 2008-01-23 6:44:17 am

bigwest
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

wish I had spent the extra 30 pounds and bought a 4G ! sad

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#4 2008-01-24 12:11:14 am

wiredgorilla
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Part number: CY28442

Timming Circuits
   -> Clock Generators
 
Description: system main clock generator
The CY28442 combines a system main clock generator-designed to generate all frequency and timing signals-with a spread-spectrum clock generator, a requirement for an Alviso-based notebook PC. The device supports all the timing requirements for the processor, memory controllers, graphics, USB, Serial ATA and PCI Express. The CY28442 integrates state-of-the-art programmable spread-spectrum technology to help reduce EMI across the entire system and designers to select multiple combinations of processor frequency and spread-spectrum clocking features through the I2C programmable interface
 
Packaging information:

CY28442     

Download datasheet:
http://www.chipcatalog.com/Datasheet/F9 … 7E99C9.htm

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#5 2008-01-24 7:43:19 pm

el_walto
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

What is the default FSB on the EEE2G?

Can anyone(with windows on their EEE) test to see if the following also happens on the 2G?
<I>
When choosing Power Scheme "Max Battery" under Power Options, my Eee reduces the FSB automatically:

Battery Level <50%, Bus Speed 61MHz, CPU Speed 549MHz
Battery Level <40%, Bus Speed 47MHz, CPU Speed 423MHz
Battery Level <30%, Bus Speed 41MHz, CPU Speed 369MHz

From full battery up to 50% the Bus Speed remains at 70MHz.
OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 full updates
</I>




Could i just tie pin 53 and 12 high, and pin 16 low? That would set the chip at 100mhz. But 100mhz looks like the lowest the chip goes at...

Does anyone know how to set this chip to "testmode"? Can it be done by changing states on pins?

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#6 2008-01-25 2:41:54 am

DarkAuron
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

el_walto wrote:

What is the default FSB on the EEE2G?

Can anyone(with windows on their EEE) test to see if the following also happens on the 2G?
<I>
When choosing Power Scheme "Max Battery" under Power Options, my Eee reduces the FSB automatically:

Battery Level <50%, Bus Speed 61MHz, CPU Speed 549MHz
Battery Level <40%, Bus Speed 47MHz, CPU Speed 423MHz
Battery Level <30%, Bus Speed 41MHz, CPU Speed 369MHz

From full battery up to 50% the Bus Speed remains at 70MHz.
OS: Windows XP Pro SP2 full updates
</I>




Could i just tie pin 53 and 12 high, and pin 16 low? That would set the chip at 100mhz. But 100mhz looks like the lowest the chip goes at...

Does anyone know how to set this chip to "testmode"? Can it be done by changing states on pins?

Tested, and the same happens on my 2G Surf, although the FSB only goes as low as 50Mhz when battery is down to 10%


2G Surf Lush Green w/ 512MB of RAM @ 571mhz; WinXP Pro w/ SP2 installed to 160GB Samsung external 2.5". Paging file: ENABLED
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#7 2008-01-27 12:36:38 pm

voodooboy
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Anyone made any progress?? I'd be glad to help in whatever way I can....2G Surf on XP here...

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#8 2008-01-30 4:21:01 am

bigwest
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Yea :-(

Gotta be someway to overclock it !

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#9 2008-02-04 5:22:46 pm

shambo
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

I have the same problem. I bought a eeepc700 also and have suffered the consequences.

There must be  way to at least get rid of the underclock. If they made it underclock, we must be able to "un-underclock" it, (so to speak).
Surley if we can find out how ASUS have underclocked it (for what reason i don't know) then we must be able to undo that change.

Also i have a EEEPC 2g surf with XP pro on if anyone needs me to test anything i'd ne happy to. Just e-mail me.


2g surf eeepc, xp-pro:sp2, 512mb RAM.

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#10 2008-02-05 2:42:42 pm

raiderj
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

I went through the process of changing my FSB using the eee.ko module in another thread - which I don't think was appropriate since I have a 2G. However, running "cat /proc/cpuinfo" it would show that I was running at 800MHz. I did notice a huge difference when trying to run a 720p MKV file - seemed much faster.

So, I think the 2G can be "overclocked" at least to 800MHz, but I'm fairly sure I didn't do it all in a proper way.

<-- Linux noob

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#11 2008-02-05 8:47:01 pm

DarkAuron
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

I tried using eee.ko and while I can play with the fan speed, the FSB still reports as 571Mhz from "cat /proc/cpuinfo" no matter what I attempt to set the FSB.


2G Surf Lush Green w/ 512MB of RAM @ 571mhz; WinXP Pro w/ SP2 installed to 160GB Samsung external 2.5". Paging file: ENABLED
My Results
  >30fps Games: Black & White, Diablo II, Dungeon Keeper 2, Grid Wars, Outcast, Ragnarok Online, Starcraft, Unreal Tournament GOTY, X-Men Legends II
  <20fps Games: Aquaria, Beyond Good & Evil, Fable, Freelancer, Morrowind, NFS:U

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#12 2008-02-06 6:16:40 pm

agent321
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

2g Surf XP here...willing to test as well.


Ive just contacted ASUS on the matter...truly an act of desperation.

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#13 2008-02-09 11:42:32 am

voodooboy
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

@DCI...so how can you permanently overclock it via a hardware mod? Do we have to shot certain pins or something?...What exactly needs to be done?

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#14 2008-03-11 5:04:30 am

micmail
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Dear all,
I bought a eeePC 2G surf during the first week of March in UK.

With Xandros, "cat /proc/cpuinfo" shows 800.0 MHz frequency
Then I installed eeeXubuntu, and "cat /proc/cpuinfo" shows 571 MHz.

Some tests with "mprime" (http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm) give me:

[Xandros]
Timing 14 iterations at 512K FFT length.  Best time: 225.511 ms.
Timing 11 iterations at 640K FFT length.  Best time: 282.119 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 768K FFT length.  Best time: 354.422 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 896K FFT length.  Best time: 432.027 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 1024K FFT length.  Best time: 499.506 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 1280K FFT length.  Best time: 661.626 ms.
..

[eeeXubuntu]
Timing 14 iterations at 512K FFT length.  Best time: 245.262 ms.
Timing 11 iterations at 640K FFT length.  Best time: 308.490 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 768K FFT length.  Best time: 396.485 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 896K FFT length.  Best time: 469.281 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 1024K FFT length.  Best time: 541.849 ms.
Timing 10 iterations at 1280K FFT length.  Best time: 717.554 ms.
...


Comments?
Mic

P.S. Do not use "eee.ko" v0.2 on the 2G Surf version, it is completely useless.

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#15 2008-03-11 5:41:00 am

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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

micmail wrote:

Dear all,
P.S. Do not use "eee.ko" v0.2 on the 2G Surf version, it is completely useless.

I thought that in the 2G Surf with the eee.ko you can control del fan speed, is it correct?


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#16 2008-03-11 6:25:30 am

micmail
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Dear bulltza,
you are correct. But that won't help with the performance.

Cheers,
Mic

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#17 2008-03-19 12:27:30 pm

AlphaFox
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Any updates? seems like we were onto something here...


4G Surf /  Black / 2GB / 16GB SDHC / Internal Bluetooth on camera port mod /
Overclocking: High Power - 1.08Ghz Max, 1.05Ghz Max Prime Stable; Low Power - 810Mhz OC; 3Dmark01 - 3609 Points @ 1.044Ghz/114PCIE

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#18 2008-04-20 3:21:43 pm

DrmMaster
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Hi,
     New member here, Also regretfully purchased a 2g surf 8(.......Wish I would have read up more first. Im running XP And also willing to test as needed..And even a permenent hardware clock to a normal 800Mhz would be a godsend.

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#19 2008-05-16 3:57:56 pm

Stef
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Is there any new progress? I wish I could help...but i am not that good when it comes to components of the computer. I will gladly test anything. I am running Xubuntu 8.04.

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#20 2008-07-25 7:12:08 pm

jrm7262
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Hi All,

           I know nothing about overclocking, but found this while playing with bluetooth on my 2g:

/home/user> dmesg
.
.
.
[   75.774100] p4-clockmod: P4/Xeon(TM) CPU On-Demand Clock Modulation available
.
.
.

Does this mean anything to those in the know?


Kindest regards

James

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#21 2008-07-27 4:29:51 am

manontheedge
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

agent321 wrote:

2g Surf XP here...willing to test as well.


Ive just contacted ASUS on the matter...truly an act of desperation.

What kind of response did you get?

Like a lot of people I bought the 2g (and should have got a 4g) and am stuck with slow framerates etc. because the CPU doesn't keep up with the power of the rest of the laptop. There has to be some way?!

Btw, I'm happy for my 2g to be a test subject.

Last edited by manontheedge (2008-07-27 4:30:14 am)

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#22 2008-07-27 11:29:59 am

gtisingh
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

manontheedge wrote:

Btw, I'm happy for my 2g to be a test subject.

Me too.
After a few months, its really started to get to me!
After installing apps, the machine just seems laggy, we need to speed the thing up a bit !


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#23 2008-07-27 6:39:00 pm

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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

Ok, if we can get a .pll file for the ll on the 2g, then we could use setFSB to set the FSB wink

But that .pll file would have to be made for the chip, and thats way beyong my knowledge. The only other choice would be waiting if and when eeetl make it compatible, or someone write a BIOS for it, but thats probably way beyond a lot of the people heres knowledge, and extremly risky... :\

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#24 2008-07-27 6:49:49 pm

lagagnon
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

gtisingh wrote:

After installing apps, the machine just seems laggy, we need to speed the thing up a bit !

Well, you decided to install Windows, so what did you expect? ;-)


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#25 2008-07-27 8:17:57 pm

DarkAuron
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Re: 2G Surf - One step closer to overclocking!

In my experience Windows is far, far more responsive than Xandros is. Such as, not having to wait 10 seconds for file explorer to pop up (Xandros takes forever!), and only half a second in Windows.


2G Surf Lush Green w/ 512MB of RAM @ 571mhz; WinXP Pro w/ SP2 installed to 160GB Samsung external 2.5". Paging file: ENABLED
My Results
  >30fps Games: Black & White, Diablo II, Dungeon Keeper 2, Grid Wars, Outcast, Ragnarok Online, Starcraft, Unreal Tournament GOTY, X-Men Legends II
  <20fps Games: Aquaria, Beyond Good & Evil, Fable, Freelancer, Morrowind, NFS:U

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