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#1 2008-01-16 12:40:26 pm

anujpurohit
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Registered: 2007-12-31
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Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Hey i have eee 8g with docs and settings moved to sdhc, page file disabled and temp folder moved to a 50MB Ram disk..
The performace have become very good as the temp folder was on sdhc earlier..
you can create ram disk using the below link.. Hope it helps..

http://www.picobay.com/projects/2006/06 … drive.html


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#2 2008-01-16 12:43:48 pm

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Registered: 2008-01-05
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

you can find a more easier to use ram disk here. probably the same thing, but with a GUI.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2007/05/2 … 03-server/

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#3 2008-01-16 12:47:14 pm

anujpurohit
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Registered: 2007-12-31
Posts: 36

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

WOW tht was a prompt reply...
cheers!!


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#4 2008-01-16 5:38:37 pm

eeeuseeer
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

i'd like to point out that running your pagefile off a ramdisk is also a nice option.


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#5 2008-01-16 5:46:48 pm

madmoo
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Registered: 2008-01-01
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

eeeuseeer wrote:

i'd like to point out that running your pagefile off a ramdisk is also a nice option.

I hope you are kidding here. Running a pagefile in a ramdisk is totally pointless.

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#6 2008-01-16 6:01:56 pm

eeeuseeer
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

madmoo wrote:

eeeuseeer wrote:

i'd like to point out that running your pagefile off a ramdisk is also a nice option.

I hope you are kidding here. Running a pagefile in a ramdisk is totally pointless.

it has been my experience that windows allocates data to the pagefile even with plenty of ram available. setting that pagefile to a ramdisk means that it's writing to ram, not to the ssd.


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#7 2008-01-16 6:05:45 pm

DrEEE
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Registered: 2008-01-09
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Sounds like a bit of a paradox...

isnt the point of a pagefile to act as an overflow or an extension to the ram.. so creating a ramdisk to act as its own overflow/extension to itself seems pointless...

As the pagefile increase, less ram will become available,forcing it to use more of the pagefile..lol...

A pagefile has alwayes resided on the hard disk, so it seems of little benefit to have it on the ram it is trying to support

Last edited by DrEEE (2008-01-16 6:07:42 pm)

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#8 2008-01-16 6:46:05 pm

eeeuseeer
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

DrEEE wrote:

Sounds like a bit of a paradox...

isnt the point of a pagefile to act as an overflow or an extension to the ram.. so creating a ramdisk to act as its own overflow/extension to itself seems pointless...

As the pagefile increase, less ram will become available,forcing it to use more of the pagefile..lol...

A pagefile has alwayes resided on the hard disk, so it seems of little benefit to have it on the ram it is trying to support

in a perfect world, yes. but, unless i'm mistaken, a pagefile will be used by xp even with plenty of available ram. you would also need to set a pagefile max to keep it manageable on your ramdrive.


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#9 2008-01-16 7:13:46 pm

rljaplit
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From: Philippines
Registered: 2007-12-25
Posts: 129

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Hey, thanks for this tip guys! Now that I've moved the temp and tmp files to ramdisk, my eee has run faster. Previously, when it was on the SDHC, it was very sluggish and often times, hung! Now it's working well and fast again!

Question though, should I also move TIF (temp internet files) to ramdisk or just leave it on SDHC?

Diverge, thanks for the link on ramdisk with the GUI. Very easy to use.

Last edited by rljaplit (2008-01-16 7:15:21 pm)

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#10 2008-01-16 7:22:36 pm

dchao
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From: SF Bay Area
Registered: 2008-01-07
Posts: 139

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Why do you install a pagefile in RAM? A pagefile is a extension of RAM, reserve some RAM to simulate physical RAM?  Doesn't make sense to.  I would allocate as much RAM as possible to the system and disable pagefile.

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#11 2008-01-16 7:41:20 pm

eeeuseeer
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Registered: 2008-01-05
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

dchao wrote:

Why do you install a pagefile in RAM? A pagefile is a extension of RAM, reserve some RAM to simulate physical RAM?  Doesn't make sense to.  I would allocate as much RAM as possible to the system and disable pagefile.

some programs require a pagefile (and use it even though ram is available). having that pagefile in ram is better than on disk.


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#12 2008-01-16 7:48:34 pm

madskillz
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Registered: 2007-12-23
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

It doesn't make sense to me either, but it seems like it's really working from what i just read... strange smile

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#13 2008-01-16 7:48:42 pm

dchao
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Registered: 2008-01-07
Posts: 139

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

pagefile is an OS file. Should not be accessible from application, and there isn't any API to manipulate it either. To application, it just as if you had more physical RAM. Temp or swap files are different, these belong to the application.  At least that's my understanding.

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#14 2008-01-17 2:15:24 am

anujpurohit
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Registered: 2007-12-31
Posts: 36

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

rljaplit wrote:

Hey, thanks for this tip guys! Now that I've moved the temp and tmp files to ramdisk, my eee has run faster. Previously, when it was on the SDHC, it was very sluggish and often times, hung! Now it's working well and fast again!

Question though, should I also move TIF (temp internet files) to ramdisk or just leave it on SDHC?

Diverge, thanks for the link on ramdisk with the GUI. Very easy to use.

Then you would lose all your internet footprints, cookies,,  so i suggest leave it on sdhc only(Enable write caching for sdhc from device manager to speed up things)


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#15 2008-01-17 2:42:33 am

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Registered: 2007-10-16
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

You should be careful about putting the temp folder onto RAM disk if you're installing anything that requires a reboot. The reboot process might require files from the temp folder...

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#16 2008-01-17 7:23:09 am

mangoman
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Registered: 2007-12-26
Posts: 24

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

eeeuseeer wrote:

DrEEE wrote:

Sounds like a bit of a paradox...

isnt the point of a pagefile to act as an overflow or an extension to the ram.. so creating a ramdisk to act as its own overflow/extension to itself seems pointless...

As the pagefile increase, less ram will become available,forcing it to use more of the pagefile..lol...

A pagefile has alwayes resided on the hard disk, so it seems of little benefit to have it on the ram it is trying to support

in a perfect world, yes. but, unless i'm mistaken, a pagefile will be used by xp even with plenty of available ram. you would also need to set a pagefile max to keep it manageable on your ramdrive.

Actually initially i though yeah that sounds pretty stupid but then i remembered a video i saw by a very knowledgable group that explained something about the memory managenet where even if windows has a lot of ram it is good to have a SMALL pagefile. They didnt say the size and i didnt understand the reasoning but these guys know what they were talking about. Although i dont know if that theory still applies to placing the pagefile on a ramdisk or a SD card which is slower than than a Hard Disk.

Last edited by mangoman (2008-01-17 7:23:33 am)

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#17 2008-01-17 3:05:06 pm

madskillz
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Registered: 2007-12-23
Posts: 42

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

I've just tried it on my desktop computer (800 MHz Duron, 1GB RAM, 2x40 GB HDD, XP PRO of course smile )

Downloaded, installed and page-file moved to ramdisk, done in like 5 minutes. RamDisk set to 256 MB, pagefile set to 64MB min/192MB maximum. Now i don't experience issues like SLOW opening "All programs" (or whatever it's called in english XP smile ), no more SLOW "My Computer opening", no more SLOW switching tabs with sites in Opera... works like a dream!

I'll do this as soon as i buy my eee!!!

Thanks a lot folks!

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#18 2008-01-18 12:16:28 am

rljaplit
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From: Philippines
Registered: 2007-12-25
Posts: 129

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

anujpurohit wrote:

rljaplit wrote:

Hey, thanks for this tip guys! Now that I've moved the temp and tmp files to ramdisk, my eee has run faster. Previously, when it was on the SDHC, it was very sluggish and often times, hung! Now it's working well and fast again!

Question though, should I also move TIF (temp internet files) to ramdisk or just leave it on SDHC?

Diverge, thanks for the link on ramdisk with the GUI. Very easy to use.

Then you would lose all your internet footprints, cookies,,  so i suggest leave it on sdhc only(Enable write caching for sdhc from device manager to speed up things)

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Got it! Many thanks for the tip!

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#19 2008-01-18 2:47:36 pm

DonkeyBeliever
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Registered: 2007-10-30
Posts: 113

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Thanks for the link to this program, its been a great help and I'm using it on more than just my EeePC!! smile

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#20 2008-01-18 6:05:11 pm

Riker
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Registered: 2007-12-15
Posts: 28

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

FRiC wrote:

You should be careful about putting the temp folder onto RAM disk if you're installing anything that requires a reboot. The reboot process might require files from the temp folder...

This is a good point.  You should disable the  temp folder on the RAM disk if you are installing anything which requires a reboot, or if unknown, disable anyway.

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#21 2008-01-31 5:56:27 am

zelig
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Registered: 2008-01-16
Posts: 23

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

Riker wrote:

FRiC wrote:

You should be careful about putting the temp folder onto RAM disk if you're installing anything that requires a reboot. The reboot process might require files from the temp folder...

This is a good point.  You should disable the  temp folder on the RAM disk if you are installing anything which requires a reboot, or if unknown, disable anyway.

A recoverable ramdrive would be the best then but I don't know if one exists.
In the old Amiga days you had your ram: disk that didn't survive reboots and your rad: or rrd: drives that could survive most non fatal reboots.


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#22 2008-02-09 2:08:00 pm

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Registered: 2007-12-14
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

ok, got the ramdisk installed. Now, how do I move the temp-folder there in a way that Windows understands it?

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#23 2008-02-09 2:11:59 pm

themaster
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Registered: 2008-01-29
Posts: 80

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

madskillz wrote:

I've just tried it on my desktop computer (800 MHz Duron, 1GB RAM, 2x40 GB HDD, XP PRO of course smile )

Downloaded, installed and page-file moved to ramdisk, done in like 5 minutes. RamDisk set to 256 MB, pagefile set to 64MB min/192MB maximum. Now i don't experience issues like SLOW opening "All programs" (or whatever it's called in english XP smile ), no more SLOW "My Computer opening", no more SLOW switching tabs with sites in Opera... works like a dream!

I'll do this as soon as i buy my eee!!!

Thanks a lot folks!

How to move pagefile.sys to ramdisk if first the system initialize pagefile.sys and later set ramdisk?
Can you teachme?

Thanks - TheMaster

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#24 2008-02-09 9:47:08 pm

BAM
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From: Massachusetts, USA
Registered: 2007-11-21
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Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

fof wrote:

ok, got the ramdisk installed. Now, how do I move the temp-folder there in a way that Windows understands it?

Set the environmental variables to point to folder on the Ram disk that you create at boot up.

Right click on My Computer/Properties

(or Start/Control Panel/System)

then Advanced/Environmental Variables

You can point to the top level of the RAM disk except for two things.  (1) The RAM drive may be too cluttered for anything else.  I used mine for all sorts of stuff. (2) Depending on the way the RAM disk is configured, there are only so many file names that are allowed in the top level.

Last edited by BAM (2008-02-09 9:50:20 pm)


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#25 2008-02-10 3:54:23 am

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Registered: 2007-12-25
Posts: 396

Re: Move temp to RAMDisk!!

BAM wrote:

fof wrote:

ok, got the ramdisk installed. Now, how do I move the temp-folder there in a way that Windows understands it?

Set the environmental variables to point to folder on the Ram disk that you create at boot up.

Right click on My Computer/Properties

(or Start/Control Panel/System)

then Advanced/Environmental Variables

You can point to the top level of the RAM disk except for two things.  (1) The RAM drive may be too cluttered for anything else.  I used mine for all sorts of stuff. (2) Depending on the way the RAM disk is configured, there are only so many file names that are allowed in the top level.

i set all temp dir (4 in total) to the ramdisk, is that ok? wont i have problems with it? if i restart windows, will the ramdisk still be there? or do i have to activate it and desactivate it each time? sorry, new at ramdisk ^^;


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