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[gfoot]

I've uploaded a new version of EeeBackup here:

http://www.glost.ecl.../eee/eeebackup/

The main changes are:

* Easier-to-use installer (but see below)
* More robust grub setup - no need to have an SD card inserted
* Better support for newer EeePCs which had different Python setups
* Default compression level is level 1 - not much, but very fast

Regarding the new installer, I found a problem after uploading - Firefox doesn't make the downloaded file executable, so you can't run it in File Manager. You need to do one of the following:

* Right-click, choose "Open With", then "Other", and type "sh" in the box
* Right-click, choose "Properties", then "Permissions", and check all three "Exec" boxes; then double-click in File Manager to run it
* Run it from a Ctrl-Alt-T terminal, as "sh eeebackup-0.32.shark.sh"

I'll have to figure out a better way around this in future - it's a shame, because it was looking like quite a convenient distribution mechanism. :( Oh well.

[go4]

hi

nice tHx....easy to use :)
works fine !!

cu go4

[ramcell]

I just used your old restore and it worked, saved me a lot of work. I downloaded your update but don't know how it integrates with the old system. Exactly what do i do with it.

[gfoot]

The backup format hasn't changed, so old backups will work with the new program, and vice versa.

The new update will rewrite the boot portion of the USB stick, upgrading it to the new version. It should be harmless, but if it doesn't work, you can always reinstall the old version.

Again, the backups on the USB stick won't be erased or anything like that - they'll still work fine with either version. All that will be updated is the program itself.

[ramcell]

so I just plugin the stick and run the script ?

[gfoot]

Yes, it will let you choose where to install to.

[jcc2.0]

I get this error on executing eeebackup-0.32-shark.sh :

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "setup/setup.py", line 3, in <module>
import qt
ImportError : No module named qt

I suppose I must install something else. Can you tell me what ? Thank you.

[Grimmy]

Excellent. Just tried this for the first time - much friendlier than dd. Keep up the good work - I look forward to the incremental backup feature.

Cheers,
Grimmy.

[SteveLawUK]

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I get this error on executing eeebackup-0.32-shark.sh :

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "setup/setup.py", line 3, in <module>
import qt
ImportError : No module named qt

I suppose I must install something else. Can you tell me what ? Thank you.

I got that (or something very similar) when trying to run it from Ubuntu. Clearly some libraries/apps are needed (to do with qt), but does anyone know which ones?

Edited by SteveLawUK, 16 April 2008 - 09:07 PM.

[jcc2.0]

I forgot to say that I'm running Ubuntu.
I know that the title of this forum is "Default Xandros Linux" :rolleyes: , but I discovered eeeBackup here.

Edited by jcc2.0, 17 April 2008 - 08:42 AM.

[markhealey]

This is about 2 to 3 times as fast now, it's brilliant, thank you!

[Nik_Doof]

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I get this error on executing eeebackup-0.32-shark.sh :

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "setup/setup.py", line 3, in <module>
import qt
ImportError : No module named qt

I suppose I must install something else. Can you tell me what ? Thank you.

I got that (or something very similar) when trying to run it from Ubuntu. Clearly some libraries/apps are needed (to do with qt), but does anyone know which ones?

"apt-get install python-qt3" should sort it.

[jcc2.0]

Thank you Nik_Doof. You're right :)
The script needs also python-2.4 to works (Ubuntu uses python-2.5).
I could install my USB key. But it doesn't work :|.
When the eeePC boots on it, I can see very quickly something like "starting up", and then the screen remains black.
Alas, I suppose this script is not compatible with Ubuntu... :(

Edited by jcc2.0, 17 April 2008 - 01:33 PM.

[gfoot]

It is designed to make bootsticks based on Xandros - it does it by copying bits of Xandros to the boot device. If things are in different places in Ubuntu (especially kernel modules) and if you need different things copied (again, especially kernel modules) then you'll need to tweak the scripts that write the boot image to take account of that.

It can work with python 2.5 too, if you edit the scripts to say so - it's just not the default.

[danMdan]

I have re-drafted the wiki for the new version with installer - someone please try it out and comment please. It is written, as was the previous version, to aid an almost complete beginner, thus I try to explain every step exactly.

dan (original wiki scribe)

Edited by danMdan, 17 April 2008 - 08:02 PM.

[vegassam]

Dan - "fixes" for your wiki...
#9 - If the user plugs in the USB AFTER the install box comes up.... the user must click the "refresh" button to see it. Also, in easy mode, putting in a USB device brings up an "open in.." dialog box. I assume its the same in advanced mode. Need to tell the noobie to just close it.
#10. misspell word "be".
#13. User needs to press "close" twice to get it to disappear OR just tell them to restart right then???


BTW... for Easy MODE (Which I really believe you should accomodate) add the following:
#5 (EASY MODE) - Go to the Work tab and click on File Manager. When file Manager opens, look for a directory called "Desktop" under My Home. Click on it and you should see the file named "eeebackup-0.32.shark.sh"

After that everything was the same....

Hope this helps....

[gfoot]

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I have re-drafted the wiki for the new version with installer - someone please try it out and comment please.

A couple of comments from me too:

#14: I find you only need to press Esc once, as soon as the screen comes up. It's only F9 that you tend to need to tap repeatedly.

#15: I'd recommend exiting the backup program fully (selecting the Quit option on the main menu) before rebooting - this should help ensure data has been written to the devices in question. Waiting at least 10 seconds is probably prudent too, and I'd still recommend running a compare after any critical backup, to make sure. (This can also force it to flush to disk, which is a good thing too.)

Endnote: I think the screen blanking is fixed? I didn't test it well, but I haven't seen it blanking in my own backups for a while, so I think I fixed it but forgot I'd done it. Let me know if you still see this, anyway.

Also, regarding setup - there are also many options for running the setup script - I'm not sure which one you'd consider easiest, but although the one you've documented is the most gui-friendly one, it's also pretty complicated, though once you've set the permissions it will run fine from that point onwards, so that is better in a way.

Perhaps a simpler way, though, is to right-click, choose "Open With -> Other...", then type "sh" in the text box and press OK.

It's up to you though, whichever you think is easier for people to do.

Edited by gfoot, 17 April 2008 - 10:13 PM.

[vegassam]

@gfoot.... my screen did not blank out... I sort of "forgot" that I was running the backup & when I went back to it, the complete screen (blue) was up - no blanked out screen....

@Dan I liked the write up because I think a noobie reacts better to seeing/acting on the GUI level. Since saving to desktop is more visual in advanced mode and locating it in XandrosFileManager is pretty simple, it seemed to work for me w/o having to add any complicated changs for Easy Mode....

Edited by vegassam, 17 April 2008 - 10:28 PM.

[BL00]

note the wiki does assume advanced mode
i'm backing up before i enable it
#9 same as vegassam, easy mode brings up 'open with'
i had filemanager open while doing this, and it looks at first as though it has wiped the usb drive
this isn't the case obviously

yup escape pressed only once

i think 14 should be the advice 'if using a second flash drive...'
then 15 'now restart the ee....' etc

screen saver came on @ 15%, then 23% etc
pressing control brought the screen back up

again as an easy mode user
i download things to My Documents/My Downloads
so i know where it all is
the wiki was easy to follow though in this respect

once the program started from bios
everything was very intuitive
the only homer moment was realising select disk to back up
is the source disk (SSD), doh
not the attached 2.5 drive!

changing the wording to select source disk to back up
destination drive to store to
would make even homer happy

this is the first time i have used the program
(can you tell!?) and this bit of the wiki
so far so good, and thanks to both of you

is there a wiki for implementing the backup?
guessing it's just a case of esc when bios starting
and selecting back up
with bootable usb, and the 2.5 drive attached

also here's a link to the wiki on this thread
clicky
agreed re the GUI
it's still backing up as i type...

[ricks4g]

I just updated my flash drive to this version with no problem. I had to do an f9 reset and used a month-old backup (from the older EeeBackup version) and restored with no problem. Great work and thank you for the backup solution.