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#1 ninelocks

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 03:08 PM

Thought this might be of interest.

http://www.access-co...etvm/index.html

Its a debugging tool Palm Simulator for PalmOS. I downloaded it unpacked it on my eeePC and on screen I have a Palm PDA.

I'll do some notes meantime a picture of this on www.ninelocks.com/blog

Jon

Edited by ninelocks, 13 November 2007 - 04:18 PM.


#2 deadDuck

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:22 PM

Nice post. The Garnet OS VM says in the release notes that there's no launcher included with the "release" emulater (as opposed to debuggin). I may try to get this in a workable state, so that I can use some of my PalmOS apps.

Access released the VM for Nokia internet tablets (running a debian-based linux), so maybe if we pester them, they'll release it for us, too. http://www.access-co...ex.html#general

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:28 PM

Oh no, you can't do that! If you start using Palm apps on your EEE PC, then someone might call it a PDA and your feelings will be hurt! Please show some decency!

Edited by GoatBoy, 13 November 2007 - 06:29 PM.


#4 ninelocks

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 06:46 PM

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Access released the VM for Nokia internet tablets (running a debian-based linux), so maybe if we pester them, they'll release it for us, too. http://www.access-co...ex.html#general
Well its been getting called a "wee PC" by some but then I am based in Scotland so its no surprise :-)

It would be good if Access made the GVM available for more than Nokia.

#5 bmaryott

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 09:07 PM

If you can write code for a seperate platform on it, it's *NOT* a PDA!
Contrary to some perceptions, beta does not mean "better", it means "not ready". --Engineer
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#6 pezcado

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:30 AM

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Oh no, you can't do that! If you start using Palm apps on your EEE PC, then someone might call it a PDA and your feelings will be hurt! Please show some decency!
You're right, everyone duck and cover -- the guy is transforming it into a PDA... OOOh the humanity!

#7 linux_geek_wannabee

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 04:04 AM

Hey ninelocks, would you mind going through the steps after downloading the file, like how to install it, for dummies, that is? Thanks,

Edited by linux_geek_wannabee, 14 November 2007 - 04:04 AM.


#8 ninelocks

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 07:06 AM

Sure will do a how to.

Quick one is......download,
double click and unpack it, drag contents somewhere ,
I had a folder called palm in my home area.

then in your palm or whatever you called it folder is a bin folder and within it
linux_dbg and linux_rel folders

In the linux_dbg folder create a folder called autoload.
In autoload put any palm program you want on the virtual pda.
Then start the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder

The version in linux_rel does not have an application launcher.

Does that help?

if not PM me and I'll do what I can to assist

#9 Wolfwood

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:47 AM

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Well its been getting called a "wee PC" by some but then I am based in Scotland so its no surprise :-)
I've done that, and I'm not even Scottish... ;)

Want some proof?:
http://www.hookedgam...-attention.html

Edited by Wolfwood, 14 November 2007 - 09:48 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2007 - 02:59 PM

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Sure will do a how to.

Quick one is......download,
double click and unpack it, drag contents somewhere ,
I had a folder called palm in my home area.
IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download it. I have developed software for PalmOS in the past (which is why I am interested in running this), and so I was able to log in and download. Once I have some time to mess around with it (I've been trying to get Advanced Mode to work flawlessly, I think I'm there, check out the wiki), I may repost it somewhere with instructions, although I think that would violate the terms of the ADN membership.

#11 ninelocks

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:22 PM

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IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download .
Yeh I expected it to need the login but it doesnt seem to, unless Ive got my login details cached of every machine Ive tried on :-) Palm platform could get a new lease of life with a few different VMs around the place. Palm dev is great fun :-) especially when they keeping changing bits of the API between devices.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:07 PM

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Then start the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder
I didn't add any .prc files to the autoload folder, but when I start gvm it just seg faults. Did you have that problem?

And when you did get it working, how do you do data entry without a touch screen?

Edited by midtoad, 14 November 2007 - 10:07 PM.

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#13 midtoad

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:08 PM

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IIRC, you need to be registered for the Access Developer Network to be able to download it.
I just scrolled down to the end of the page with the terms, and downloaded it. I didn't log in and I'm not registered on ADN.
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#14 ninelocks

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 06:37 AM

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Then start the PalmVM it is called gvm and is in the linux_dbg folder
I didn't add any .prc files to the autoload folder, but when I start gvm it just seg faults. Did you have that problem?

And when you did get it working, how do you do data entry without a touch screen?
Nope didnt get seg faults. And you just use the mouse. :-)
We should be getting a couple more eeePCs in soon, when they arrive I'll do an install on them and see what happens.

Jon

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 01:54 PM

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Nope didnt get seg faults. And you just use the mouse. :-)
We should be getting a couple more eeePCs in soon, when they arrive I'll do an install on them and see what happens.

Jon
Awesome. Were you able to start up the hotsync application and do a sync?

#16 Bazza

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 04:19 PM

Heck, I'm still trying to get KPilot to consistently acknowledge - and then sync - my TX. The idea of sticking on a 'virtual PDA' seems fraught with disappointment and counter intuitive to the device.
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#17 grytpype

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 05:08 PM

Another option for emulating Palm hardware is POSE, which is in the Debian distribution and probably Xandos as well.

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Posted 23 November 2007 - 11:56 PM

Is there a way to use the palm apps expanded to fill a large portion of the Eee screen?

With PdaReach I can run apps installed on my Treo phone, on the desktop, enlarged X2, but it would be nice to use apps that are not installed on the phone and to enlarge them to fit the full vertical height of the screen.

#19 crossandflame

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 07:04 PM

I just tried this and it worked just fine for the basic install. Will try some progs and get back to ya.

~crossandflame

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 07:50 PM

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I just tried this and it worked just fine for the basic install. Will try some progs and get back to ya.
Any luck with hotsyncing? Man, if I could get at the DateBk6 cal stuff brought in on a wifi hotsync...





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