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#1 mlollis

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 05:24 AM

So, our Asus Eee PC 1000HE comes with an 8.7Ahr battery model number PL23-901. All the other Eee PC 1000xx netbooks use the AL23-901 battery.

Last year, I purchased an AL23-901 battery directly from a China distributor for my 1000HE and it did not work. The battery would not 'click' into the back of the netbook nor did it make power contact. It LOOKED exactly the same but appeared to be a tiny bit too short from the connector to back of battery where arc started.

I have seen information elsewhere indicating the AL23 and PL23 batteries WILL both work in my 1000HE. Before I buy a second AL23 to try, can someone please verify they have tried it and the AL23 battery does indeed work in their 1000HE?

I looked through many pages of this forum and could not find this subject. Please forgive me if I missed an earlier post.

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 07:38 AM

Yes, verified. I've repeatedly swapped batteries between a 901 and a 1000HE and even let them drain and charge without problem. I've also used the AL23-901 8800mAh extended battery in both a 901 and a 1000HE, for a 3rd party example.

But you have to watch where you get it from if ordering directly from China. You may have gotten a mislabeled battery.

Though if you prefer the PL23-901 is available from the Asus eStore under item #90-OA003B8000, but it's pricey at $179.99

http://estore.asus.c...asp?itemid=5179

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 03:02 PM

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Thank you for the quick and detailed reply. I am buying directly from China, and they have assured me (as you just have) that the PL and AL are interchangeable. Now that I have heard the same from you, I believe I may have been sent a 'bad' sample last year.

Going directly to Asus and paying half the price of my netbook for a battery is not an attractive proposition, even though it may eventually end up being the only choice I have.

Again, thank you for your quick response.....

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 01:37 AM

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ExtrEmE User......

Thank you for the quick and detailed reply. I am buying directly from China, and they have assured me (as you just have) that the PL and AL are interchangeable. Now that I have heard the same from you, I believe I may have been sent a 'bad' sample last year.

Going directly to Asus and paying half the price of my netbook for a battery is not an attractive proposition, even though it may eventually end up being the only choice I have.

Again, thank you for your quick response.....

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:21 AM

It's easier to find the PL23-901 under 90-OA003B8000, and some places may sell it cheaper than Asus does. But the AL23-901 will of course be cheaper and easier to find.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 02:23 PM

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It's easier to find the PL23-901 under 90-OA003B8000, and some places may sell it cheaper than Asus does. But the AL23-901 will of course be cheaper and easier to find.
I used Google to search for PL23-901 and AL23-901 and found a bunch of sellers.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 08:58 PM

Watch out for those stating they sell the PL23-901, usually it's actually the AL23-901. Unfortunately, a lot of shady sellers out there.

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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:37 PM

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Watch out for those stating they sell the PL23-901, usually it's actually the AL23-901. Unfortunately, a lot of shady sellers out there.
Naming names would be more useful.
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Posted 27 January 2010 - 11:33 PM

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It's easier to find the PL23-901 under 90-OA003B8000, and some places may sell it cheaper than Asus does. But the AL23-901 will of course be cheaper and easier to find.
I used Google to search for PL23-901 and AL23-901 and found a bunch of sellers.
BUt since they appear to be virtually identical, what would be the harm? Lower capacity?

I ordered an AL23 13Ahr from China. I figure if it doesn't work, I have a 10" portable DVD player which runs on an external 7.2V Li-Ion battery. It came with 2.8Ahr batt which runs for almost 2hrs. The 13Ahr may velcro nicely to the back of the DVD player! LOL

THANK YOU ALL for your help with this. I will post when my order arrives and let you all know the results. I suppose I will need to worry about fires now. So many Li-Ion batts out there catching fire. A 13Ahr is 100WHr which can gen lots of heat in a short time.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:00 AM

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Watch out for those stating they sell the PL23-901, usually it's actually the AL23-901. Unfortunately, a lot of shady sellers out there.
Naming names would be more useful.
There are lots of them, key is to watch out for stated capacity. Sometimes they just list it as compatible and not tell you.

So just look at the Specs and make sure they match. . . 7.2v, 8700mAh, 62Wh or 2.9Ah (it's a different measurement from the 8700mAh). If any other figures or no figures are given then avoid it.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:12 AM

Should be 7.4v, no?
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:22 AM

Nope, it's 7.2v according to Asus and the label on the battery, the AL23-901 is 7.4v but both will still work on either a 1000HE or a 901.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:54 AM

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Nope, it's 7.2v according to Asus and the label on the battery, the AL23-901 is 7.4v but both will still work on either a 1000HE or a 901.
The AL23-901 is also the battery for the 1000H.
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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:41 AM

It'll also fit the Eee PC 1000, but I've only tested them on the 1000HE and 901. So those are the two I can say without a doubt work.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:43 AM

My 1000H came with the AL23-901.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:06 AM

Well, I didn't learn a thing from the first try at using an AL23 in my Asus Eee PC 1000HE!

I just got my 13AHr AL23-901 and just like the one I tried a year ago, it did not push all the way
into my Netbook, did not click into place, and it did not make any contact electrically.

So zeo.........

You said you have swapped the PL and AL batteries. Were you using both batts in a 1000HE? I have a brand new 13AHr AL23-901 for $90, anyone interested in buying it??????!!!!!!!

I have an external charger. It plugs into the connector of the battery and then the 12V power pack plugs into
the adapter. The new 13AHr battery is charging right now. So, it appears to be OK, just won't work in my
1000HE.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:22 AM

13AHr? Oh, I see what happened. You got the one that extends to the sides. Most 13000mAh batteries I've seen extended to the bottom.

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The only version of the side extending version that fits the 1000HE is the 12000mAh battery from battery1inc...

http://www.battery1i.../B001OWG0V6.htm


The other versions will only fit the 901/1000 models, not sure about the 1000H or 1000HD. But I have the one from Battery1inc and can confirm that it works and I have tried the other version before and confirm it does not fit the 1000HE.

Btw, you can get it to fit by filing down the extensions on either side. It's what keeping the connector from reaching the socket.

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:03 AM

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13AHr? Oh, I see what happened. You got the one that extends to the sides. Most 13000mAh batteries I've seen extended to the bottom.

http://www.handy-fot...s/eee90113w.JPG

The only version of the side extending version that fits the 1000HE is the 12000mAh battery from battery1inc...

http://www.battery1i.../B001OWG0V6.htm


The other versions will only fit the 901/1000 models, not sure about the 1000H or 1000HD. But I have the one from Battery1inc and can confirm that it works and I have tried the other version before and confirm it does not fit the 1000HE.

Btw, you can get it to fit by filing down the extensions on either side. It's what keeping the connector from reaching the socket.
Perhaps the wings could be ground down a bit but not sure that would allow the battery to work. Gonna try to sell it before I give up and modify it.

So, the one link you gave with the 'winged' battery DOES fit the 1000HE, right? Would you happen to have a link to a non-winged high-cap battery which would work in my 1000HE? The one I tried last year had no wings but went 'below' the unit giving the keyboard a nice angle. BUT, it would not slide all the way in or make contact so I had to send it back too.

Let me know if you have a link to a non-winged high-cap. And thank you so much for all your help with this!

Kindest Regards..... Marshall

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 08:44 AM

Mugen are very reliable but pricey, http://www.mugen-pow...-eeepc-901.html

Or you could get a replacement PL23-901, http://www.provantag...00~7ASUL0JQ.htm

You'll just get more hits by looking by the Asus Item# 90-OA003B8000. . .

The AL23-901 AL24-1000 8800mAh doesn't stick out too much and as long as you get the curved version then it won't block the screen from being pushed all the way back.

This one for example works, I've used it, http://www.amazon.co...65704368&sr=8-3

But check the battery1inc website as they may be out of stock right now.

I can also confirm that the 6600mAh AL23-901 replacement batteries will also fit the 1000HE.


And here's a 12000mAh that extends down, http://www.amazon.co...5704511&sr=8-24

Haven't tried this one myself and never got a battery from that seller but that's the version that should fit as is.

Personally, if you're looking for capacity greater than the original then the Mugen is your best bet. Many of these replacement batteries don't use high quality cells and are bigger than they need to be but Mugen is high quality.


Otherwise consider a charge adapter like this, http://www.battery1i.../B002EA936Q.htm

And just use lower capacity battery and keep a spare charged for longer runs.

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 12:41 AM

Thanks for all your help! I sent the 'winged' battery back and received one which did not have wings (it extends down). It had the same problem about not 'clicking' into locked place. I found the bottom of the battery was not deep enough, so it wasn't going in all the way. I filed the bottom (backside) of the battery so it would go into the netbook another 0.5mm and WOW, it clicks into locked position and charges/runs perfectly. I have been getting 11.0hrs of use with wireless on, bluetooth and camera off, and with superhybridengine in AUTO mode. The original 8.8Ahr gave me 6.5hrs in this same operating mode.

I actually bought that external battery charger and paid about $25US. I don't think it works properly. It says it will work up to 36W which is 3A at 12V. BUT, using my power supply, it shows only 0.2A (200mA) of charging current. I don't understand this. If I place the battery in the netbook and charge it, my power supply shows 2.1A going into the battery. This is what I would expect from the external charger. Oh well, at least I have successfully gotten a high-cap battery to work in my 1000HE!

Thanks again for all your help with this. I hope I can help someone with their netbook some day.

BTW, I have upgraded to 2GB RAM and a 320GB hard drive. Still running the XP Home.

Kindest Regards..........



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Mugen are very reliable but pricey, http://www.mugen-pow...-eeepc-901.html

Or you could get a replacement PL23-901, http://www.provantag...00~7ASUL0JQ.htm

You'll just get more hits by looking by the Asus Item# 90-OA003B8000. . .

The AL23-901 AL24-1000 8800mAh doesn't stick out too much and as long as you get the curved version then it won't block the screen from being pushed all the way back.

This one for example works, I've used it, http://www.amazon.co...65704368&sr=8-3

But check the battery1inc website as they may be out of stock right now.

I can also confirm that the 6600mAh AL23-901 replacement batteries will also fit the 1000HE.


And here's a 12000mAh that extends down, http://www.amazon.co...5704511&sr=8-24

Haven't tried this one myself and never got a battery from that seller but that's the version that should fit as is.

Personally, if you're looking for capacity greater than the original then the Mugen is your best bet. Many of these replacement batteries don't use high quality cells and are bigger than they need to be but Mugen is high quality.


Otherwise consider a charge adapter like this, http://www.battery1i.../B002EA936Q.htm

And just use lower capacity battery and keep a spare charged for longer runs.






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